Re: Camel vs BPEL

2012-09-18 Thread Hadrian Zbarcea
Mostly a social issue, but I totally agree. Also keep in mind when you compare options that Camel is a framework, not a product and BPEL in this context actually means not the spec, but a specific box-wrapped interpretation of it sold as a product. $0.02 + tax Hadrian On 09/14/2012 09:55 AM,

Re: Camel vs BPEL

2012-09-18 Thread Hadrian Zbarcea
rmance for heavy load activities. Camel is the best solution you go for , even spring DSL configuration you can do the same. -Original Message- From: Henryk Konsek [mailto:hekon...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 4:12 PM To: users@camel.apache.org Subject: Re: Camel vs BPEL

Re: Camel vs BPEL

2012-09-18 Thread Henryk Konsek
> To be honest, I see companies paying extraordinary sums to get hold of TIBCO, > Oracle, WebMethods, etc. consultants. So they end up paying license + > knowledge. With Camel, they only invest in knowledge. Yeah, actually you always need to invest in knowledge. Thinking that company might avoid t

Re: Camel vs BPEL

2012-09-17 Thread Raul Kripalani
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Re: Camel vs BPEL

2012-09-17 Thread Raul Kripalani
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Re: Camel vs BPEL

2012-09-16 Thread Raul Kripalani
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Re: Camel vs BPEL

2012-09-14 Thread Claus Ibsen
;> -Original Message- >> From: Henryk Konsek [mailto:hekon...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 4:12 PM >> To: users@camel.apache.org >> Subject: Re: Camel vs BPEL >> >> > Hi, can anyone give some really good convincing stuff that why should

Re: Camel vs BPEL

2012-09-14 Thread Bruno Borges
oad activities. > > Camel is the best solution you go for , even spring DSL configuration you > can do the same. > > -Original Message- > From: Henryk Konsek [mailto:hekon...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 4:12 PM > To: users@camel.apache.org > Subject: R

RE: Camel vs BPEL

2012-09-14 Thread Omar Atia
@camel.apache.org Subject: Re: Camel vs BPEL > Hi, can anyone give some really good convincing stuff that why should > we use camel over BPEL? Call me stupid, but BPEL is too complex for me. :) If I want to orchestrate two WS endpoints and perform some transformation on the data, I would l

Re: Camel vs BPEL

2012-09-14 Thread Donald Whytock
Something that's gelled from conversations I've had at my workplace is that there's a perception difference between commercial software and FOSS. Yes, I was one of those that, in this very thread, said "Camel's a lot cheaper". But that's at least partly because I for one use it in personal hobbie

Re: Camel vs BPEL

2012-09-14 Thread Henryk Konsek
> Hi, can anyone give some really good convincing stuff that why should we use > camel over BPEL? Call me stupid, but BPEL is too complex for me. :) If I want to orchestrate two WS endpoints and perform some transformation on the data, I would like to express this with a few lines of DSL. I'm te

Re: Camel vs BPEL

2012-09-14 Thread Claus Ibsen
to spend them wisely in todays tough business. > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/Camel-vs-BPEL-tp5719214p5719325.html > Sent from the Camel - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Claus Ibsen - FuseSource Email: cib

Re: Camel vs BPEL

2012-09-13 Thread realice
decisions -- View this message in context: http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/Camel-vs-BPEL-tp5719214p5719325.html Sent from the Camel - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: Camel vs BPEL

2012-09-13 Thread Christian Müller
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Re: Camel vs BPEL

2012-09-13 Thread Christian Müller
hanks > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/Camel-vs-BPEL-tp5719214.html > Sent from the Camel - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > --

Re: Camel vs BPEL

2012-09-12 Thread Claus Ibsen
;orchestrator'. any > references, materials are good, and especially like to have some input from > the gurus > > many thanks > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/Camel-vs-BPEL-tp5719214.html > Sent from the Camel - Use

Re: Camel vs BPEL

2012-09-12 Thread Łukasz Budnik
; Hi, can anyone give some really good convincing stuff that why should >> we >> >> use >> >> > camel over BPEL? I'm trying to convince somebody here to use camel >> >> instead >> >> > of oracle SOA 11g that has BPEL engine as so called

Re: Camel vs BPEL

2012-09-12 Thread Bing Lu
ing stuff that why should > we > >> use > >> > camel over BPEL? I'm trying to convince somebody here to use camel > >> instead > >> > of oracle SOA 11g that has BPEL engine as so called 'orchestrator'. > any > >> > references, m

Re: Camel vs BPEL

2012-09-12 Thread Donald Whytock
as BPEL engine as so called 'orchestrator'. any >> > references, materials are good, and especially like to have some input >> from >> > the gurus >> > >> > many thanks >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > View this m

Re: Camel vs BPEL

2012-09-12 Thread Bing Lu
; > > many thanks > > > > > > > > -- > > View this message in context: > http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/Camel-vs-BPEL-tp5719214.html > > Sent from the Camel - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > -- > Chris Snow - > http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/chris-snow-mba-tech-mgmt-cissp/6/0/316 >

Re: Camel vs BPEL

2012-09-12 Thread chris snow
> the gurus > > many thanks > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/Camel-vs-BPEL-tp5719214.html > Sent from the Camel - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Chris Snow - http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/chris-snow-mba-tech-mgmt-cissp/6/0/316

Camel vs BPEL

2012-09-12 Thread realice
have some input from the gurus many thanks -- View this message in context: http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/Camel-vs-BPEL-tp5719214.html Sent from the Camel - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.