RE: future of flash (yes, that old chestnut again)

2013-05-16 Thread Pete Thomas
Stop banging on about Linux, it's rubbish :-) -Original Message- From: Timothy Jones [mailto:timothy.jo...@syniverse.com] Sent: 15 May 2013 19:18 To: users@flex.apache.org Subject: RE: future of flash (yes, that old chestnut again) It makes perfect sense: otherwise you end up dependent

Re: future of flash (yes, that old chestnut again)

2013-05-16 Thread Tom Chiverton
On 15/05/2013 19:17, Timothy Jones wrote: marketshare in the same way you measure Mac and Windows. If Flash Player had been open, plenty of folks would have gladly contributed code (time and effort) to make it work better, at little or no cost to Adobe. And those of use who *did* try to

Re: future of flash (yes, that old chestnut again)

2013-05-15 Thread Lee Burrows
Thanks Alex. I appreciate your comments - with the 5 year commitment from Adobe, and FlexJS on the horizon, i can relax (a bit). I just worry about your employers sometimes. At Max 2011, the message was use HTML5 for RIAs, and shortly afterwards mobile Flash Player was dropped. At Max 2013,

Re: future of flash (yes, that old chestnut again)

2013-05-15 Thread Mike_L_McConnell
) as the next great frontier is, at best, disingenuous. These are my opinions...your mileage may vary. M. McConnell From: Lee Burrows subscripti...@leeburrows.com To: users@flex.apache.org Date: 05/15/2013 06:15 AM Subject:Re: future of flash (yes, that old chestnut again

Re: future of flash (yes, that old chestnut again)

2013-05-15 Thread Fréderic Cox
subscripti...@leeburrows.com To: users@flex.apache.org Date:05/15/2013 06:15 AM Subject: Re: future of flash (yes, that old chestnut again) Thanks Alex. I appreciate your comments - with the 5 year commitment from Adobe, and FlexJS on the horizon, i can relax (a bit). I just

Re: future of flash (yes, that old chestnut again)

2013-05-15 Thread Claude Bernardini
: future of flash (yes, that old chestnut again) Thanks Alex. I appreciate your comments - with the 5 year commitment from Adobe, and FlexJS on the horizon, i can relax (a bit). I just worry about your employers sometimes. At Max 2011, the message was use HTML5 for RIAs, and shortly afterwards

RE: future of flash (yes, that old chestnut again)

2013-05-15 Thread Alex Harui
-Original Message- From: Claude Bernardini [mailto:cbernard...@ultima-com.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 7:33 AM To: users@flex.apache.org Subject: Re: future of flash (yes, that old chestnut again) Hi, I totally agree with Mike. HTML 5 is a poor alternative. Anyway, if we must deliver

Re: future of flash (yes, that old chestnut again)

2013-05-15 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:11 AM To: users@flex.apache.org Subject: Re: future of flash (yes, that old chestnut again) I worry less about the message than I do the motivation behind the push towards HTML5. It still makes no sense to me from a developer's perspective, though I've tried

RE: future of flash (yes, that old chestnut again)

2013-05-15 Thread Timothy Jones
...@lamd.uscourts.gov] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 1:55 PM To: users@flex.apache.org Subject: RE: future of flash (yes, that old chestnut again) @Timothy 'Standards-based is criteria #0 of the open internet. No matter how slick, non-standards-based technologies are not open, and __that_alone__ makes

Re: future of flash (yes, that old chestnut again)

2013-05-15 Thread Jeffry Houser
On 5/15/2013 2:17 PM, Timothy Jones wrote: It makes perfect sense: otherwise you end up dependent on one vendor for stuff that works. Is that not the case with web development today? Browsers are horribly inconsistent; and frameworks such as JQuery spent countless hours making sure the

RE: future of flash (yes, that old chestnut again)

2013-05-15 Thread Mark Fuqua
-Original Message- From: mike_l_mcconn...@lamd.uscourts.gov [mailto:mike_l_mcconn...@lamd.uscourts.gov] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:11 AM To: users@flex.apache.org Subject: Re: future of flash (yes, that old chestnut again) I worry less about the message than I do the motivation behind

Re: future of flash (yes, that old chestnut again)

2013-05-15 Thread Alain Ekambi
[mailto:mike_l_mcconn...@lamd.uscourts.gov] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:11 AM To: users@flex.apache.org Subject: Re: future of flash (yes, that old chestnut again) I worry less about the message than I do the motivation behind the push towards HTML5. It still makes no sense to me from

Re: future of flash (yes, that old chestnut again)

2013-05-15 Thread Scott B. Barnett
: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:11 AM To: users@flex.apache.org Subject: Re: future of flash (yes, that old chestnut again) I worry less about the message than I do the motivation behind the push towards HTML5. It still makes no sense to me from a developer's perspective, though I've tried

Re: future of flash (yes, that old chestnut again)

2013-05-14 Thread Mike_L_McConnell
That is my recollection as well. We are about 16 months into that by now. I can't believe Flash Player will suddenly drop off the face of the planet, though. Something will replace it or it will simply continue on as it does today. M. McConnell From: Lee Burrows

RE: future of flash (yes, that old chestnut again)

2013-05-14 Thread Timothy Jones
Flash Player will be around at least as long as IE6 was. (duck!) tlj -Original Message- From: mike_l_mcconn...@lamd.uscourts.gov [mailto:mike_l_mcconn...@lamd.uscourts.gov] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 2:25 PM To: users@flex.apache.org Subject: Re: future of flash (yes, that old

Re: future of flash (yes, that old chestnut again)

2013-05-14 Thread Alex Harui
The relevant documents are: [1] http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplatform/whitepapers/roadmap.html [2] http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/whitepapers/roadmap.html It is [2] that mentions five years. But realize that, to the best of my knowledge, there is no code that will cause Flash to stop

Re: future of flash (yes, that old chestnut again)

2013-05-14 Thread Punit
Hi Alex, -- Music to my ears! Sent from my iPad On 2013-05-14, at 15:29, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: The relevant documents are: [1] http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplatform/whitepapers/roadmap.html [2] http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/whitepapers/roadmap.html It is [2] that

Re: future of flash (yes, that old chestnut again)

2013-05-14 Thread Vikram Shityalkar
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Re: future of flash (yes, that old chestnut again)

2013-05-14 Thread Alex Harui
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLEX/Alex%27s+FlexJS+Prototype On 5/14/13 9:40 PM, Vikram Shityalkar vik...@raykor.com wrote: Hi Alex, Below highlighted words produced excitement into me. Is there any location where I can find the draft or roadmap or anything like that for