[libreoffice-users] Re: Installer stalls after C++ process

2011-11-26 Thread Tom
Hi :) I used Nabble to put a star by David S Crampton's answer as he was the one that suggested the antivirus issue. I put another star by the answer about using a command-line to check privileges. Does anyone else see those stars? I tend to find the opposite about languages. In Windows ever

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: can I make Libre default to save as .rtf

2011-11-26 Thread e-letter
On 25/11/2011, Italo Vignoli wrote: > > Unfortunately (for you and the people who share the same idea), history > shows that going face to face against Microsoft is the wrong strategy. > Cannot see how active promoting odf instead of passive promotion of m$ is a wrong strategy. > > I have writte

Re: [libreoffice-users] Demise of Open Office

2011-11-26 Thread Barry Elder
Yeah, sure!  I can't even stop these from appearing in my mailbox even though when I try to "unsubscribe" the mailer daemon tells me I'm unknown!!  What a load of crap!!! From: Adam Tauno Williams To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, November 25, 2

[libreoffice-users] Re: Demise of Open Office

2011-11-26 Thread Pedro
Hi Barry Barry Elder wrote > > Yeah, sure!  I can't even stop these from appearing in my mailbox even > though when I try to "unsubscribe" the mailer daemon tells me I'm > unknown!!  What a load of crap!!! > Your problem with this mailing list has no relation to what the previous poster said a

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: can I make Libre default to save as .rtf

2011-11-26 Thread Michael Bauer
26/11/2011 08:48, sgrìobh e-letter: This is weak; did youtube fail because initially web browsers did not have flash plug-in technology? No, the content was so strong, flash became a de facto multimedia standard driven by user demand. But YouTube was something completely new, it wasn't like it

[libreoffice-users] Re: can I make Libre default to save as .rtf

2011-11-26 Thread Pedro
e-letter wrote > > This is weak; did youtube fail because initially web browsers did not > have flash plug-in technology? No, the content was so strong, flash > became a de facto multimedia standard driven by user demand. > That is not weak, it's a plain lie. Flash existed well before Youtube a

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installer stalls after C++ process

2011-11-26 Thread Michael Bauer
The Stars on Nabble put messages on your favourites list, no? I didn't think they were "award stars". In Windows you have (almost) total control over what UI language you get for an application you install (ignoring the OS itself). LO is odd in the sense that no matter what you select for down

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installer stalls after C++ process

2011-11-26 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Ahah, that makes sense.  Thanks Michael.  Actually the Gnu&Linux installer and program are very different from the Windows one.  In Ubuntu (and the other unix-based OSes) you can choose which language and you get just that one plus the default English.  You don't get tons of extra langua

[libreoffice-users] unsubscribing

2011-11-26 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) This usually occurs when people register with 1 email account and have that one feed into another account and forget which account they used to register. It is fairly sensible to use different accounts to filter emails but then it does become tricky to remember all their names and purpos

[libreoffice-users] Re: unsubscribing

2011-11-26 Thread Pedro
Tom wrote > > PS other people might like to notice that when someone hijacks a thread > you can break it free by forwarding to the list rather than just replying. > New people are often unfamiliar with email-list so we need to be able to > cope with odd scenarios. > I think you can't do that i

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: unsubscribing

2011-11-26 Thread Onyeibo Oku
What's nabble btw? - from twohot@device.mobile :) -Original Message- From: Pedro Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 07:30:05 To: Reply-To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: unsubscribing Tom wrote > > PS other people might

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: can I make Libre default to save as .rtf

2011-11-26 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) We have noticed your lack of tolerance and open hostility regarding the matter which you are unable to understand. There is no need to be quite so hostile nor to flare up each time someone quietly asks for help. Please can you take your argument to the discussion group and/or steering/B

[libreoffice-users] Re: unsubscribing

2011-11-26 Thread Pedro
Onyeibo Oku-2 wrote > > What's nabble btw? > Nabble is a alternative interface to a mailing list. Instead of subscribing to the mailing list and receiving every email (or a weekly digest), you can subscribe in no-mail option. This means that you are subscribed to the list and are allowed to ans

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: unsubscribing

2011-11-26 Thread Onyeibo Oku
So it requires being online and a conscious wilful perusal of that site. I will definitely forget to follow up. - from twohot@device.mobile :) -Original Message- From: Pedro Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 07:50:53 To: Reply-To: users@global.libreo

[libreoffice-users] Re: Re: Re: Scrolling back slides in SWF-exported presentation

2011-11-26 Thread Aleksey Rukhlenko
Jay Lozier wrote: >> > As if on a web page, you do only need to make Flash is enabled. > Anyway, my question is: "How to scroll backward in exported to flash (swf) presentation?" Is it possible? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: unsubscribing

2011-11-26 Thread drew
On Sat, 2011-11-26 at 07:30 -0800, Pedro wrote: > Tom wrote > > > > PS other people might like to notice that when someone hijacks a thread > > you can break it free by forwarding to the list rather than just replying. > > New people are often unfamiliar with email-list so we need to be able to >

[libreoffice-users] Re: Images get smaller and deformed in .doc

2011-11-26 Thread Aleksey Rukhlenko
Dag Wieers wrote: > On Sun, 20 Nov 2011, José Antonio Moray Serrano wrote: > >> The problem happens with the LibreOffice Writer and the format .doc . >> When I insert an image and use it as "Como carácter" (in spanish, I >> don't know how it's called in English. See first capture), I save the >>

[libreoffice-users] Re: unsubscribing

2011-11-26 Thread Tom
Hi :) Errr, in that particular instance by "new people" i meant people that are new to the LibreOffice project and this mailing-list. For many people this mailing list will be the first mailing-list they have ever belonged to. We have to be aware that we were/are all new at something and even i

[libreoffice-users] The tone of thiese Lists

2011-11-26 Thread David
Is it just me or is the tone of the messages on these lists turned extremely hostile as of late? -- David -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: h

Re: [libreoffice-users] The tone of thiese Lists

2011-11-26 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) We have phases. This is a fairly bad phase but we have had worse and got through. Typically we arrive the other side of these bad times better friends than we were previously and with more understanding of how other people think. It's all part of being in a community. Someone has an ex

[libreoffice-users] Re: unsubscribing

2011-11-26 Thread Tom
Hi :) Brilliant! I didn't realise you could do that with Nabble. So far i have mostly used it as a method of giving people a link to a previous thread or even to a specific post in that thread. It's also handy for catching up but i keep forgetting to use it for that. Thanks Drew Regards from To

Re: [libreoffice-users] The tone of thiese Lists

2011-11-26 Thread David
On 11/26/2011 11:20 AM, Tom Davies wrote: > Hi :) > We have phases. This is a fairly bad phase but we have had worse and got > through. Typically we arrive the other side of these bad times better > friends than we were previously and with more understanding of how other > people think. It's

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: unsubscribing

2011-11-26 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) True. It is just another tool that you can choose to use or not-use. The choice is there. The way i look at it is that i could look at one web-page rather than wade through hundreds of emails. Other people that don't like Nabble seem to like GMane but i have no idea what that is. :)

Re: [libreoffice-users] The tone of these Lists

2011-11-26 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Lol. Here we get both. I have gleaned a lot of pearls from Regina, Cor, NoOp, e-letter and others on this list and people on some of the other lists. Regards from Tom :) --- On Sat, 26/11/11, David wrote: > From: David > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] The tone of thiese Lists > To

RE: [libreoffice-users] The tone of thiese Lists (from a newbie)

2011-11-26 Thread Bob Houston
Hi,I hope it's OK to jump in with a question, because I'm one of the newbies that you may be talking about. I sent an email off to (user+help) on 11/23 about a problem with the display of hidden characters (The Pilcrow) that I am having on two systems. Since sending the email I have been receivi

RE: [libreoffice-users] The tone of thiese Lists (from a newbie)

2011-11-26 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Weird. I couldn't find your question. I had a look through Nabble http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/nabble-mailing-list-interface/ and also checked all through my in-box for the last few days. (That's usually a good way to find a post that accidentally (or deliberately) hijacked a thr

RE: [libreoffice-users] The tone of thiese Lists (from a newbie)

2011-11-26 Thread Bob Houston
Tom, Thanks for the quick response. My question was sent directly to (user+help) but right after signing up. Maybe I should have waited for the dust to settle before launching the question. I'll resend the email.Thanks again.And I truly am enjoying the boat load of emails. |:>) Bob Bob Hou

Re: [libreoffice-users] The tone of thiese Lists (from a newbie)

2011-11-26 Thread Clio
26.11.2011 12:45, Bob Houston пишет: Hi,I hope it's OK to jump in with a question, because I'm one of the newbies that you may be talking about. I sent an email off to (user+help) on 11/23 about a problem with the display of hidden characters (The Pilcrow) that I am having on two systems. Since

Re: [libreoffice-users] The tone of thiese Lists (from a newbie)

2011-11-26 Thread David S. Crampton
Bob, I made the same mistake when I first signed up. I was sending questions to "users+help". The syntax makes that sound reasonable. After the 3rd try of getting the same boilerplate "help" message back I found the correct: "users@global.libreoffice.org". That's what puts you in business!

RE: [libreoffice-users] The tone of thiese Lists (from a newbie)

2011-11-26 Thread Bob Houston
If I understand the procedure correctly I just post the question to (libreoffice-users)? Thanks Bob Houston eBook Formattinghttp://about.me/BobHouston http://facebook.com/eBookFormatting > Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 13:13:04 -0400 > From: mene...@bk.ru > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Subjec

RE: [libreoffice-users] From not so newbie now

2011-11-26 Thread Bob Houston
Thanks David. "users@global.libreoffice.org" it will be.BobBob Houston eBook Formattinghttp://about.me/BobHouston http://facebook.com/eBookFormatting > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] The tone of thiese Lists (from a newbie) > Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 09:22:52

[libreoffice-users] My Pilcrow is gone. (Non printing Characters)

2011-11-26 Thread Bob Houston
From: bob_hous...@hotmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: My Pilcrow is gone. (Non printing Characters) Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 22:42:37 -0500 Hi users, I have lost my Pilcrow on my two networked systems. Both are using LibreOffice 3.4.4 00034m1 (Build:402) The main system

Re: [libreoffice-users] The tone of thiese Lists

2011-11-26 Thread Nicolás Adamo
2011/11/26 David > On 11/26/2011 11:20 AM, Tom Davies wrote: > > Hi :) > > We have phases. This is a fairly bad phase but we have had worse and > got through. Typically we arrive the other side of these bad times better > friends than we were previously and with more understanding of how other

Re: [libreoffice-users] My Pilcrow is gone. (Non printing Characters)

2011-11-26 Thread Manfred J. Krause
Hi Bob, please have a look at 'Bug 40482 - CONFIGURATION: Formatting aids - displayed nonprinting characters become unchecked during printing and PDF export' https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40482 . That could resolve your problem ... :) mjk On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Bob Ho

RE: [libreoffice-users] My Pilcrow is gone. (Non printing Characters)

2011-11-26 Thread Bob Houston
Thanks mjk, I'll check it out. Bob Houston eBook Formattinghttp://about.me/BobHouston http://facebook.com/eBookFormatting > Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 19:13:05 +0100 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] My Pilcrow is gone. (Non printing Characters) > From: courrier.oou.fr@googlemail.com > To: us

[libreoffice-users] Colour palettes

2011-11-26 Thread Séamas Ó Brógáin
I have a number of alternative colour palettes, including one I want to use generally. Most of them seem to be designed for a palette that is 10 boxes across, but the palette in Libre Office 3.4.4 is 8 boxes across, so breaking up the pattern. I seem to recall that the palette in Open Office was f

[libreoffice-users] RE: My Pilcrow is gone. (Non printing Characters)

2011-11-26 Thread Tom
Hi :) I had no idea what a pilcrow was ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilcrow Now i know hat that back-to-front invisible P thing is called too. With regards to reinstalling this guide might help http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile Other OpenSource programs such as Firefox, Gimp, V

RE: [libreoffice-users] RE: My Pilcrow is gone. (Non printing Characters)

2011-11-26 Thread Bob Houston
Tom,Thanks for the input.And also to MJK. I took a quick look at the link supplied by MJK. But have not had time to read to much other than that the Pilcrow disappearance may be a bug. If in fact it is a bug, what is the procedure to let the software types at LibreO.o know about it? I'd rathe

RE: [libreoffice-users] RE: My Pilcrow is gone. (Non printing Characters)

2011-11-26 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) There is a guide to help with bug-reporting http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport Reinstalling doesn't do the same thing with OpenSource products that it tends to do with proprietary programs. For an OpenSource program you only need to rename the user-profile. It's a lot less hass

RE: [libreoffice-users] RE: My Pilcrow is gone. (Non printing Characters)

2011-11-26 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Are you talking about an ACTUAL PHYSICAL inclusion of the "¶" that you want to see in printed copy and on the display? Or are you talking about an option in your software (View | Non-printing characters) that SHOWS where the paragraphing is by displaying pilcrows. These are not actually in you

[libreoffice-users] RE: My Pilcrow is gone. (Non printing Characters)

2011-11-26 Thread Pedro
Dennis E. Hamilton wrote > > They still won't print though > Do you mean the "non-printing characters" are not printed??? :) In fact you could print them, just for fun, if you deliberately inserted/pasted a ¶ character at the end of each line :) -- View this message in context: http://nabble

[libreoffice-users] Re: My Pilcrow is gone. (Non printing Characters)

2011-11-26 Thread Pedro
Bob Houston wrote > > Any help in finding my pilcrows would be greatly appreciated. > Have you tried pressing Ctrl+F10 (or selecting View, Non-printing characters from the menu) on the machine where the sign doesn't show? This setting is saved per machine not per document, so switching machine

RE: [libreoffice-users] RE: My Pilcrow is gone. (Non printing Characters)

2011-11-26 Thread Bob Houston
No Pedro, I just need to see them. Not print them. |:>) Bob Houston eBook Formattinghttp://about.me/BobHouston http://facebook.com/eBookFormatting > Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 12:54:14 -0800 > From: pedl...@gmail.com > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Subject: [libreoffice-users] RE: My Pilcrow

[libreoffice-users] RE: My Pilcrow is gone. (Non printing Characters)

2011-11-26 Thread Pedro
Tom wrote > > Reinstalling doesn't do the same thing with OpenSource products that it > tends to do with proprietary programs. For an OpenSource program you only > need to rename the user-profile. It's a lot less hassle. > I couldn't disagree more. This is not a FLOSS characteristic. This i

Re: [libreoffice-users] RE: My Pilcrow is gone. (Non printing Characters)

2011-11-26 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I think the uninstaller does have the option to also uninstall all user-profiles and everything but it's possibly not something that people would look for. There are substantial advantages to the way OpenSource programs user their user-profiles. The different programs use the same path

RE: [libreoffice-users] RE: My Pilcrow is gone. (Non printing Characters)

2011-11-26 Thread Bob Houston
The PILCROW is back! Thanks to MJK for directing me to the bug page. It is a bug.No fix for the bug as of yet, but if he tries to sneak away again I can find him and put him back to work. Thanks to all. Bob Bob Houston eBook Formattinghttp://about.me/BobHouston http://facebook.com/eBookFormatti

Re: [libreoffice-users] RE: My Pilcrow is gone. (Non printing Characters)

2011-11-26 Thread Manfred J. Krause
Hi, On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Bob Houston wrote: > > No Pedro, I just need to see them.  Not print them. |:>) > [...] Sigh ... ;) There's no need to rename (remove) the user profile. (To abstract from bug 40482): The bug occurs since LibO 3.4.3 - when you open the print dialog (e.g.: 'C

RE: [libreoffice-users] RE: My Pilcrow is gone. (Non printing Characters)

2011-11-26 Thread Bob Houston
MJK, You said it way better than I could. Thanks Bob Bob Houston eBook Formattinghttp://about.me/BobHouston http://facebook.com/eBookFormatting > Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 23:15:19 +0100 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] RE: My Pilcrow is gone. (Non printing > Characters) > From: courrier

[libreoffice-users] RE: Video output from Impress

2011-11-26 Thread rod
Thanks Jay/Tom, The only video format available is the Flash format and I tried that a number of times but for some reason nothing I have installed (even Flash Player itself) could open or play the generated files. From: Jay Lozier [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] [mailto:ml-node+s96907

[libreoffice-users] RE: Video output from Impress

2011-11-26 Thread rod
Thanks Jay/Tom, The only video format available is the Flash format and I tried that a number of times but for some reason nothing I have installed (even Flash Player itself) could open or play the generated files. Cheers Rod From: Tom [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] [mailto:ml

[libreoffice-users] RE: Video output from Impress

2011-11-26 Thread rod
Thanks Jay/Tom, The only video format available is the Flash format and I tried that a number of times but for some reason nothing I have installed (even Flash Player itself) could open or play the generated files. Cheers Rod Cheers Rod From: Tom [via Document Foundation Mail A

Re: [libreoffice-users] The tone of thiese Lists

2011-11-26 Thread Scott Castaline
On 11/26/2011 11:27 AM, David wrote: On 11/26/2011 11:20 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) We have phases. This is a fairly bad phase but we have had worse and got through. Typically we arrive the other side of these bad times better friends than we were previously and with more understanding of h

Re: [libreoffice-users] RE: Video output from Impress

2011-11-26 Thread jorge
Hi I use Swfdec Flash Player to view that kind of files... but it isn't like a movie, it is like a presentation. Adress: http://swfdec.freedesktop.org/ Regards, Jorge Rodriguez El sáb, 26-11-2011 a las 16:58 -0800, rod escribió: > Thanks Jay/Tom, > > The only video

Re: [libreoffice-users] RE: Video output from Impress

2011-11-26 Thread drew
Hello Rod On Sat, 2011-11-26 at 20:52 -0600, jorge wrote: > Hi > > I use Swfdec Flash Player to view that kind of files... but it isn't > like a movie, it is like a presentation. Right and if all you want is flip chart type stuff then sure output to SWF is fine, but if you are looking for

Re: [libreoffice-users] RE: Video output from Impress

2011-11-26 Thread soumalya ray
what do you suggest for ubuntu lucid?i am using tibesti and recordmydesktop.is there any other alternative?did not try istanbul because the last release on 2007.would it be any good? regards, On 27 November 2011 09:24, drew wrote: > Hello Rod > . > * Also before you ask - if you are usin

[libreoffice-users] RE: Video output from Impress

2011-11-26 Thread rod
Thanks for that Drew, I will download swfdec flash player and try it. I have made a slideshow in Impress, there’s half a gig of it, it is simply a series of still images in four sections with some music in the background with 10s between slide changes; I want to put the presentation onto a