Re: RE: [libreoffice-users] Windows lifecycle [was: CONVERTING A MICROSOFT TEMPLATE ...]

2014-04-23 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) There is nothing actually stopping you from continuing to use Xp. Something like 30% of desktops are still on Xp. Just take care to avoid phishing scams etc. Also consider a dual-boot on it. If you want to give a Gnu&Linux a go then it's best to download (torrent if poss) a few different v

Re: RE: [libreoffice-users] Windows lifecycle [was: CONVERTING A MICROSOFT TEMPLATE ...]

2014-04-23 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) hah, ok so Ubuntu 14.04's "Startup Disk Creator" only worked for a few of the distros i downloaded. No immediately obvious pattern wrt family etc. Bodhi was amazing! A tad empty but looks intriguing, kinda reminds me of antiX a bit but is completely different. Mint Xfce and Mint Mate and

Re: [libreoffice-users] Documentation

2014-04-23 Thread Dale Erwin
On 4/23/2014 4:49 PM, Dale Erwin wrote: I was searching via google for LO documentation and I found "WG40-WriterGuideLO.pdf". However, when I clicked on it, I received a document with 468 blank pages. This was the URL: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/3/35/WG40-WriterGuideLO.pdf

Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows lifecycle [was: CONVERTING A MICROSOFT TEMPLATE ...]

2014-04-23 Thread Virgil Arrington
On 04/23/2014 06:19 PM, Toki wrote: The typical end-user does not know that both hardware and software comes with EOL dates, much less has any idea when those dates will occur. jonathon That was certainly true of this typical end-user. Virgil -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr.

Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows lifecycle [was: CONVERTING A MICROSOFT TEMPLATE ...]

2014-04-23 Thread Toki
On 4/23/2014 6:36 AM, Brian Barker wrote: > So whenever you purchased it, you would have expected expiration either now or much sooner. That would be true if, and only if one of the following conditions is true: * The vendor of the OP's system was one of the 6-nines that provides EOL dates

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: CONVERTING A MICROSOFT TEMPLATE TO BE USED WITH LIBRE OFFICE

2014-04-23 Thread Toki
On 4/22/2014 11:06 AM, Urmas wrote: For the last 23 years Microsoft Office has changed its format TWICE. What you are missing is that there are file layout differences between the various editions of the same version of MSO. There are also file layout differences between the different version

Re: [libreoffice-users] Documentation

2014-04-23 Thread Cley Faye
2014-04-23 23:49 GMT+02:00 Dale Erwin : > I was searching via google for LO documentation and I found > "WG40-WriterGuideLO.pdf". However, when I clicked on it, I received a > document with 468 blank pages. > > This was the URL: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/ > 3/35/WG40-WriterGuideL

[libreoffice-users] Documentation

2014-04-23 Thread Dale Erwin
I was searching via google for LO documentation and I found "WG40-WriterGuideLO.pdf". However, when I clicked on it, I received a document with 468 blank pages. This was the URL: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/3/35/WG40-WriterGuideLO.pdf Dale Erwin -- To unsubscribe e-mail to:

Fwd: RE: [libreoffice-users] Windows lifecycle [was: CONVERTING A MICROSOFT TEMPLATE ...]

2014-04-23 Thread Virgil Arrington
Original Message Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] Windows lifecycle [was: CONVERTING A MICROSOFT TEMPLATE ...] Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 16:10:24 -0400 From: Virgil Arrington To: James Knott James Knott wrote, > > I run openSUSE Linux on my computers and have fo

Fwd: RE: [libreoffice-users] Windows lifecycle [was: CONVERTING A MICROSOFT TEMPLATE ...]

2014-04-23 Thread Virgil Arrington
Agreed, Jay. I learned about the XP support expiration on the evening news a few months ago. Until then, it never occurred to me that M$ would stop supporting its OS. That thought wasn't on my radar screen, which probably (and fairly) says more about me and my (lack of) computer knowledge th

Fwd: RE: [libreoffice-users] Windows lifecycle [was: CONVERTING A MICROSOFT TEMPLATE ...]

2014-04-23 Thread Virgil Arrington
Brian, Thank you for the clarification. I do want to be fair, even in my anger. My apologies to M$ concerning notice of the expiration of XP. That said, as a typical Windows user, it never occurred to me to go to a Microsoft website to determine the lifecycle for XP. When I bought my compute

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: CONVERTING A MICROSOFT TEMPLATE TO BE USED WITH LIBRE OFFICE

2014-04-23 Thread Steve Edmonds
Hi. A work colleague just tried Zorin (http://zorin-os.com/) as a replacement on a laptop. Look and feel sooo similar to Win and uses Ubuntu repositories. The download will run as a live disc to check out all your hardware will work. Worked well, a little fiddle with the wifi, but in all a goo

Re: [libreoffice-users] paste into the edit box

2014-04-23 Thread libreoffice-ml . mbourne
John R. Sowden wrote: re: alternatives, this is how I use it-might apply to others: Pay credit card on line Copy verification number from web site paste verification number to an empty cell change font from not free sans to free sans copy updated cell with verification number (cannot add to exiti

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: CONVERTING A MICROSOFT TEMPLATE TO BE USED WITH LIBRE OFFICE

2014-04-23 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Alex Thurgood wrote: > The dev working on LO didn't like the StarOffice binary filter code, so > they got rid of it, simple as that - they certainly didn't care whether > people who had started using the "original" product, the one that gave > birth both to OOo and LO, over 10 years ago would still

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Fwd: Why new page style after manual page break changes all pages?

2014-04-23 Thread Kevin O'Brien
It looked to me like Brian had a good handle, and that I had missed something. I think if I followed what he was saying, the key is to put in a manual break first, and I must have missed that. Regards, On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 1:19 PM, anne-ology wrote: >Dale ... Nino ... & others in the

[libreoffice-users] with all due thanks ...

2014-04-23 Thread anne-ology
... for your explanation. You're a true gentleman. From: pete nikolic Date: Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 1:21 AM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: CONVERTING A MICROSOFT TEMPLATE TO BE USED WITH LIBRE OFFICE To: anne-ology On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 17:53:41 -0500 anne-ology wrote: >

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: CONVERTING A MICROSOFT TEMPLATE TO BE USED WITH LIBRE OFFICE

2014-04-23 Thread James Knott
Urmas wrote: >> Yeah, that really a problem, especially since LO didn't exist back then. > > It was called StarOffice back then. StarOffice became OpenOffice. LibreOffice split off from OpenOffice when Oracle took over. IIRC, the formats that are no longer supported are the ancient StarOffice on

Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: Fwd: Why new page style after manual page break changes all pages?

2014-04-23 Thread anne-ology
Dale ... Nino ... & others in the know - Please explain how this works - I think I've been doing it wrong; your methods sound to be a shortcut which sure would keep the pages in line. Thanking you now, I'll be eagerly awaiting further details along this l

Re: [libreoffice-users] Found a solution

2014-04-23 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Transferring templates seems to have a lot of issues! Thanks for helping with 1 issue that no-one else seems to have noticed so far! As it happens the problem with this template this time seems to be a macro issue but hopefully your answer will help other people in the future now it's in th

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: CONVERTING A MICROSOFT TEMPLATE TO BE USED WITH LIBRE OFFICE

2014-04-23 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) There will be a lot of pranks and malware aimed at Xp users offering them free upgrades and what-not. Apparently it has already started. Just ignore them all. Wrt "MS Security Essentials" best bet is to install AVG (apparently best of the free anti-viruses (but according to who, right?)) o

[libreoffice-users] Re: CONVERTING A MICROSOFT TEMPLATE TO BE USED WITH LIBRE OFFICE

2014-04-23 Thread TomD
Hi :) You can use Nabble to share the document. Use any of the links in this email but it's better practice to go to the official LIbreOffice website and navigate through "Get Help" - Nabble - Users - errr, and then find your thread, you might need to register at the site when you start to write

Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows lifecycle [was: CONVERTING A MICROSOFT TEMPLATE ...]

2014-04-23 Thread James Knott
Jay Lozier wrote: > Also, there is no direct upgrade path from XP to W7 and I assume this > is true for W8 also. I run openSUSE Linux on my computers and have for several years. It's generally possible to to an upgrade as new versions come out. I recently upgraded my motherboard & hard drive (ol

Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows lifecycle [was: CONVERTING A MICROSOFT TEMPLATE ...]

2014-04-23 Thread Jay Lozier
On 04/23/2014 09:36 AM, Brian Barker wrote: At 07:57 23/04/2014 -0400, Virgil Arrington wrote: ... Ubuntu clearly states on its website when 12.04 support will expire, so I know going in what I'm getting into. M$ gave me no such warning when I purchased my XP machine years ago. That's odd. Y

Re: [libreoffice-users] Windows lifecycle [was: CONVERTING A MICROSOFT TEMPLATE ...]

2014-04-23 Thread Brian Barker
At 07:57 23/04/2014 -0400, Virgil Arrington wrote: ... Ubuntu clearly states on its website when 12.04 support will expire, so I know going in what I'm getting into. M$ gave me no such warning when I purchased my XP machine years ago. That's odd. You may want to bookmark http://windows.micros

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: CONVERTING A MICROSOFT TEMPLATE TO BE USED WITH LIBRE OFFICE

2014-04-23 Thread Jay Lozier
On 04/23/2014 07:57 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote: It's no secret that LO users tend to dislike M$. While I love LO, I've tended to give M$ perhaps more benefit of the doubt than they deserve. I still use Windows 7 on my laptop, although after many fits and starts, I have finally succeeded in get

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: CONVERTING A MICROSOFT TEMPLATE TO BE USED WITH LIBRE OFFICE

2014-04-23 Thread Virgil Arrington
It's no secret that LO users tend to dislike M$. While I love LO, I've tended to give M$ perhaps more benefit of the doubt than they deserve. I still use Windows 7 on my laptop, although after many fits and starts, I have finally succeeded in getting a true dual boot Ubuntu setup. I'm using Ubu

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: CONVERTING A MICROSOFT TEMPLATE TO BE USED WITH LIBRE OFFICE

2014-04-23 Thread Michael Meeks
On Wed, 2014-04-23 at 10:24 +0200, Alex Thurgood wrote: > The dev working on LO didn't like the StarOffice binary filter code Hated it with a passion is probably a better description than "didn't like" - that code screwed us over and held us back very significantly. It was a cut/paste of

[libreoffice-users] Re: Fwd: Why new page style after manual page break changes all pages?

2014-04-23 Thread Nino Novak
Am 23.04.2014 02:54, schrieb Dale Erwin: > On 4/22/2014 7:35 AM, Nino Novak wrote: >> On 21.04.2014 22:30, Dale Erwin wrote: >> >> [...] >> >>> I have never had this problem and have never had the need to create >>> sections. Maybe it's because I always use page styles alternating from >>> right p

[libreoffice-users] Re: CONVERTING A MICROSOFT TEMPLATE TO BE USED WITH LIBRE OFFICE

2014-04-23 Thread Alex Thurgood
Le 22/04/2014 20:06, Urmas a écrit : > Meanwhile, Libreoffice cannot open its own documents from 2001. > Urmas, you are right. Yes, I too, remember a guarantee made by the LibreOffice project on its inception to "future-proof" one's data against arbitrary changes in file format or vendor suppo

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: CONVERTING A MICROSOFT TEMPLATE TO BE USED WITH LIBRE OFFICE

2014-04-23 Thread Brian Barker
At 22:32 22/04/2014 -0700, Herman Konly wrote: Documents converted and the following log file is generated: [...] Normal.dot Normal.ott Document macro has to be revised. That's probably the best you can do without editing your template further yourself - in particular its contained macro(s).