Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Still?

2014-08-05 Thread Pikov Andropov
Florian Reisinger wrote on 8/6/2014 1:22 AM: > Hi, > The problem we have: We do not have one release branch as Firefox has, we > have two... Users should use and find bugs on the "Fresh" version in order to > make thee fresh, which will be renamed to stable after 6M. > So how to say "you can use

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Still?

2014-08-05 Thread john herron
Thoroughly agree! +1 jdh On 08/06/2014 06:47 AM, "J. Van Brimmer" wrote: +1 On Aug 5, 2014 6:42 PM, "arakish" wrote: It is of my opinion that you should stick with the standards. What is wrong with calling the newest possible stable version "Release Candidate", the proven stable version

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Still?

2014-08-05 Thread Florian Reisinger
Hi, The problem we have: We do not have one release branch as Firefox has, we have two... Users should use and find bugs on the "Fresh" version in order to make thee fresh, which will be renamed to stable after 6M. So how to say "you can use the feature packed fresh"? It is not an RC it is an te

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Still?

2014-08-05 Thread "J. Van Brimmer"
+1 On Aug 5, 2014 6:42 PM, "arakish" wrote: > It is of my opinion that you should stick with the standards. > > What is wrong with calling the newest possible stable version "Release > Candidate", the proven stable version "Stable", the unstable beta-tester > version "Beta"? > > It makes absolut

Re: [libreoffice-users] Intermittent Calc Issues

2014-08-05 Thread Gregory Forster
Hi Tom:) I was so sure you were on the Gnucash site, oh well. I don't know anymore weird things are still going on. My elaborate spreadsheet is complete. I'll just have to wait to do another fancy spreadsheet. However, I DID vacuum, with brush, my keyboard. Greg On 8/5/2014 5:14 PM, T

Re: [libreoffice-users] Intermittent Calc Issues

2014-08-05 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I think the comment about sacking your tech support was meant as a joke. I think we kinda assume people who reach this mailing-list probably ARE the tech support. I'm sure everyone makes amusing blunders at times. Easier to laugh about it after recovery! Wrt keyboards i can never figure o

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base questions

2014-08-05 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I was kinda agreeing with you, hence the +1. I think people kinda understood what you meant and i suspect other people agree with you too. The devs sometimes have great plans and good ideas and then users do some crazy things. It's difficult to anticipate what users will find difficult and

[libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Still?

2014-08-05 Thread arakish
It is of my opinion that you should stick with the standards. What is wrong with calling the newest possible stable version "Release Candidate", the proven stable version "Stable", the unstable beta-tester version "Beta"? It makes absolutely no sense to me to be different just for the sake of bei

Re: [libreoffice-users] Intermittent Calc Issues

2014-08-05 Thread Gregory Forster
Woops, I meant to click the spell-check and not the send. That all explains well for the unexplained highlighting, but what about the random ;6 (semi-colon and the number six) at times, or the random : (colon) at times, replacing cell contents by just pressing a directional arrow key. That,

Re: [libreoffice-users] Intermittent Calc Issues

2014-08-05 Thread Gregory Forster
Thanks Tom, Actually, I deleted the user profile a few times and started over from scratch. BTW, are you the same that's on the Gnucash usergroup emails now and then? Greg On 8/5/2014 3:35 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Perhaps try renaming your User Profile? Sudden change in behavior or

Re: [libreoffice-users] Intermittent Calc Issues

2014-08-05 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) A "Reply to all" goes to the whole mailing list and can cover multiple issues. I'm glad to hear that playing with the keys did the trick! Fantastic answer! I'm not on the GnuCash mailing list. Well, i might have posted once or twice several years ago but i doubt that is remembered! Still

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: the release 4.3 in PPA launchpad

2014-08-05 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Thats an interesting list of add-ons/Extensions or additional packages. Is there any easy clue as to what they do? I personally suspect they do add something positive to LibreOffice and might consider adding them to my upstream install of LO. Regards from Tom :) On 5 August 2014 20:12,

[libreoffice-users] Re: Base questions

2014-08-05 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 05/08/2014 12:02, Wolfgang Keller a écrit : > > Bullshit. There are plenty of cross-platform RDBMSes that are not > implemented in this grotesque proprietary abomination that Java is. > My comment, or Sun's decision ? How many of those cross-platform RDBMs were : - available in 2004 (when t

[libreoffice-users] [ODF 1.2 compatibility] Re: UK Government adopts Open Document Format

2014-08-05 Thread NoOp
On 08/04/2014 01:21 AM, Andrew Beverley wrote: > Following on from previous threads, this is good news for LibreOffice: > > "Government documents will use what are known as open standards for > document formats. Word processor files will be saved with “.odt” > suffixes, rather than “.doc”." > > h

[libreoffice-users] Re: the release 4.3 in PPA launchpad

2014-08-05 Thread NoOp
On 08/03/2014 03:27 AM, Lera Goncharuk wrote: > В письме от 2 августа 2014 09:57:15 пользователь Kracked_P_P---webmaster > написал: >> On 08/02/2014 06:25 AM, Lera Goncharuk wrote: >> > Hi, >> > The setup from PPA is deemed more important in Ubuntu user community > than >> > setup from *.deb file

Re: [libreoffice-users] Intermittent Calc Issues

2014-08-05 Thread Gregory Forster
I do use LO on my desktop. However, I do not use it as extensively. My son also has it on his laptop, but does not use it very extensively. Greg On 8/4/2014 11:46 PM, Jean-Francois Nifenecker wrote: Hi, Le 05/08/2014 05:25, Gregory Forster a écrit : Sometimes, I complete a calculation in a

Re: [libreoffice-users] Intermittent Calc Issues

2014-08-05 Thread Gregory Forster
I played with that also. Thank you. On 8/5/2014 1:32 AM, jorge wrote: Hi: It would be about the amount memory assigned in Calc (Menu: Tools-> Options -> Memory) Regards, Jorge Rodríguez El lun, 04-08-2014 a las 22:25 -0500, Gregory Forster escribió: Hi, I haven't been on thi

Re: [libreoffice-users] Intermittent Calc Issues

2014-08-05 Thread Gregory Forster
Thank you. Come to think of it, I can switch the touch-pad off. When cells were highlighted, I did alternately keep pressing the shift keys, That cleared that up. This notepad does have a spill resistant keyboard where there is a mylar film under the keys. On 8/5/2014 1:58 AM, Brian Barker wro

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Schema in Calc

2014-08-05 Thread dave boland
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014, at 10:15 AM, Paul wrote: > On Mon, 04 Aug 2014 09:45:20 +0200 > Alex Thurgood wrote: > > > Le 31/07/2014 00:08, Paul a écrit : > > > Just out of interest, why would a db driver come into play? This is > > > a spreadsheet we're talking about. > > > > > > The mention of db s

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base questions

2014-08-05 Thread William W. Austin
On 2014-08-05 06:02:12, Wolfgang Keller wrote: > > As I recall, at the time of the release of OpenOffice2, it had to > be > > like Access > > Braindead. > > > - but of course, as Sun was mainly running the show, that > > meant that it had to be multi-OS, thus Java based > > Bullshit. There are

Re: [libreoffice-users] question

2014-08-05 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello there, On 5 août 2014 17:38:29 CEST, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: >On 08/05/2014 02:51 AM, Tomáš Matýs wrote: >> Hi, >> I am just curious when you update your google+ account, because last >> massege is there from january. Maybe there is some problem with the >> connection. >> >> with th

Re: [libreoffice-users] question

2014-08-05 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster
On 08/05/2014 02:51 AM, Tomáš Matýs wrote: Hi, I am just curious when you update your google+ account, because last massege is there from january. Maybe there is some problem with the connection. with the best regards, Tomáš Matýs Who's google+ account? LibreOffice's

[libreoffice-users] eWeek.com top stories for today - LO 4.3 is top story

2014-08-05 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster
In today's e-newsletter from eWeek.com The "TOP STORIES -- August 05, 2014" [listed 5 stories] has a LibreOffice 4.3 "story" as the top one in their list. The newsletter was actually the "eWEEK.com Storage Report" e-newsletter, but still it is nice that their top story was about LibreOffice

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Schema in Calc

2014-08-05 Thread Pat Brown
Thank you, Paul. I have followed the convolutions of the discussion with interest but you have more clearly presented what I tried to say in the beginning. After much of the discussion I now see many of the difficulties involved but I will follow your suggestion and see if I can phrase this clearly

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Schema in Calc

2014-08-05 Thread Paul
On Mon, 04 Aug 2014 09:45:20 +0200 Alex Thurgood wrote: > Le 31/07/2014 00:08, Paul a écrit : > > Just out of interest, why would a db driver come into play? This is > > a spreadsheet we're talking about. > > > > The mention of db schema was merely to ask why Calc doesn't have > > something like

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base questions

2014-08-05 Thread Jon Harringdon
Tom Davies wrote: > I think Base nearly does do the best way around. The only problem is that > the easiest thing, the embedded database, is currently dangerously broken. > The devs appear to be addressing that although, obviously, they can't fix > the whole thing all at one go. The first step

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base questions

2014-08-05 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) +1 I think Base nearly does do the best way around. The only problem is that the easiest thing, the embedded database, is currently dangerously broken. The devs appear to be addressing that although, obviously, they can't fix the whole thing all at one go. The first step seems reasonably

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base questions

2014-08-05 Thread Jon Harringdon
Wolfgang Keller wrote: > > So I come back to my suggestion earlier today - LO Base needs to give > > the user the opportunity to specify what they want - RAM or file > > based, single file or multiple files. > > That would only confuse most end users. Hear, hear. > The point is that the develo

Re: [libreoffice-users] Base questions

2014-08-05 Thread Rob Jasper
Op 4 aug. 2014, om 20:23 heeft Jean-Francois Nifenecker het volgende geschreven: > Le 04/08/2014 18:59, dave boland a écrit : >> >> I'm getting a little confused. My understanding is that there are >> really two issues here. One is that LO Base is RAM resident - all >> updates are held in RAM

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base questions

2014-08-05 Thread Wolfgang Keller
> As I recall, at the time of the release of OpenOffice2, it had to be > like Access Braindead. > - but of course, as Sun was mainly running the show, that > meant that it had to be multi-OS, thus Java based Bullshit. There are plenty of cross-platform RDBMSes that are not implemented in this g

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base questions

2014-08-05 Thread Wolfgang Keller
> A database like MySQL and mariadb cache the updates and then write > them to disk every 1/2 to full second (or however configured). Seems > like a good idea. I wouldn't consider MySQL and its descendents as good references for data integrity. > So I come back to my suggestion earlier today -

Re: [libreoffice-users] Intermittent Calc Issues

2014-08-05 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Perhaps try renaming your User Profile? Sudden change in behavior or weird wonkiness might be down to something going wonky in the User Profile; https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile Renaming the profile means you can still get back to it if it doesn't fix things so it's a good wa

Re: [libreoffice-users] Sum of multiple cells substring

2014-08-05 Thread Daniel R. Miguel
Hello again! I realized the error was that the decimal point is a , (we are using Spanish localization), so changing the , for a . decimal point did the trick. Once again, thank you a lot. El 05/08/2014 a las #4, Daniel R. Miguel escribió: Hi again, I modified the formula to suit my spreadsh

Re: [libreoffice-users] Sum of multiple cells substring

2014-08-05 Thread Daniel R. Miguel
Hi again, I modified the formula to suit my spreadsheet to {=SUM(IF(LEFT(B46:AE46,2)="OT",VALUE(MID(B46:AE46,3,99)),0))}. It works beautifully but, in some instances it will render an Err:502. One of said instances is this: OT8 HF8 OT8 OT2 OT1 OT0,5 OT8 OT8 OT8 OT5 OT6 OT5 OT6 OT5

Re: [libreoffice-users] Intermittent Calc Issues

2014-08-05 Thread Brian Barker
At 22:25 04/08/2014 -0500, Gregory Forster wrote: I have an inconsistent and not often issue with Calc. [...] Calc does weird things now and then. [...] Sometimes, I complete a calculation in a cell, and press the Enter or Down Arrow key. My calculation will disappear and a ;6 will appear in th