[libreoffice-users] Re: What version?

2014-08-11 Thread Owen Genat
TomD wrote The OOXML standard has been through 3 revisions [...] Apparently first put through in 2012. [...] ODF (Open Document Format) [...] has been an ISO since 2006. Apparently it was complete enough first time and has never needed to be revised. This is inaccurate and not a good

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: What version?

2014-08-11 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello everyone, Quick note in passing. I fail to see how thr discussion on xml standards implementations is of any interest to our users. May I (respectfully) suggest that interested parties bring this conversation to our discuss list? Thank you, Charles. On 11 août 2014 10:40:00 CEST, Owen

Re: [libreoffice-users] Base questions

2014-08-11 Thread Wolfgang Keller
This is one way Base is more powerful than Access. That's the whole point. By not focusing on promoting Base as *the* generic client-side FOSS tool for access to client-server RDBMs, they're missing a *HUGE* opportunity. And since Rekall has vanished (despite being GPL), there's not much in

[libreoffice-users] Re: What version?

2014-08-11 Thread Owen Genat
italovignoli wrote On 10/08/14 03:01, Owen Genat wrote: The Transitional and Strict formats are both defined in ISO/IEC 29500. In ISO/IEC 29500 there is only one transitional definition, while Microsoft has produced three different transitional versions (two without definition, i.e.

[libreoffice-users] Re: What version?

2014-08-11 Thread Owen Genat
Charles-H. Schulz wrote Quick note in passing. I fail to see how thr discussion on xml standards implementations is of any interest to our users. May I (respectfully) suggest that interested parties bring this conversation to our discuss list? Duly noted. I posted my last response before

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Too much Politics?

2014-08-11 Thread Sophie
Hi Owen, Le 09/08/2014 08:02, Owen Genat a écrit : sophi wrote I agree with you, several of the discussions happening here should happen on the discuss@ list ... Sophie, is there some reason why under the Nabble interface the global discuss@ list is not included under the LibreOffice group,

Re: [libreoffice-users] Currently Using Spreadsheet for Personal Project - Thinking About Database

2014-08-11 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I am not sure if it has been covered in this thread but unlike spreadsheets with databases you hardly ever read directly from the main tables. Normally you have Queries that filter and do calculations. They look a LOT like tables such as spreadsheets but they seldom contain ALL the data

Re: [libreoffice-users] shortcut keys for LibreOffice under Linux

2014-08-11 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) When moving to GnuLinux (or GnuHurd, or Bsd, Solaris or other non-Windows system) it's a good idea to use DistroWatch. DW lists many useful websites for nearly every distro that exists or has ever existed. Very few get deleted and very few are so new or obscure that they are not fully

Re: [libreoffice-users] Currently Using Spreadsheet for Personal Project - Thinking About Database

2014-08-11 Thread Oogie McGuire
On Aug 10, 2014, at 11:19 PM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote: FWIW, the typical heavy reader will take 210 years to read a million pages: * Heavy Reader being defined as reading 17 books per year.

Re: [libreoffice-users] Currently Using Spreadsheet for Personal Project - Thinking About Database

2014-08-11 Thread Mark Phillips
Joel, A suggestion from left field, but it will help you in the long run. Take a look at the django project - https://www.djangoproject.com/. It is a framework for creating database driven web sites. It is very easy to use and very powerful. The framework automatically creates all the plumbing

Re: [libreoffice-users] Currently Using Spreadsheet for Personal Project - Thinking About Database

2014-08-11 Thread Paul
I may be overestimating the simplicity of Base, but I suspect Base will be far, far simpler than creating a Django project. A Django project means actual coding, and a lot of it. Yes I know how simple Django is, but it still requires a decent amount of coding. As I understand it, Joel isn't a

Re: [libreoffice-users] Currently Using Spreadsheet for Personal Project - Thinking About Database

2014-08-11 Thread jonathon
On August 11, 2014 6:28:20 AM PDT, Oogie McGuire wrote: Oh Gosh, what do they call folks like me? I average 64+ books a year, 1 a week plus one a month. A prime customer of an independent bookstore. year due to textbooks but still… G Students are deliberately excluded from the statistics. A

Re: [libreoffice-users] Currently Using Spreadsheet for Personal Project - Thinking About Database

2014-08-11 Thread jonathon
On August 11, 2014 6:44:07 AM PDT, Mark Phillips wrote: The framework automatically creates all the plumbing you need to build a project (such as database tables), and allows you, the designer, to focus on the higher level problems of your design My impression is that the OP _wants_ to learn

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Acess2Base

2014-08-11 Thread rost52
Again, thanks Jim for your comment and the 2 interesting links. I had to recognize that we need to get professional support of a BASE and CALC expert and hope that this expert knows if a BASE DB with macros for data export into CALC will run on W7 and Linux. Regards, Reinhold On 2014-08-11

[libreoffice-users] Re: Acess2Base

2014-08-11 Thread Stefan Gruber
Hello, Jim Byrnes schrieb am Sonntag, 10. August 2014 23:47: A couple of questions: (1) Has anyone here used it and does it make writing macros for Base easier? I looked at the examples a few weeks ago, and it seemed to me as a clearer approach to database programming as the UNO-way. IMHO

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: What version?

2014-08-11 Thread Steve Edmonds
Hi. I found this very useful thanks. steve. On 11/08/14 8:51 pm, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Hello everyone, Quick note in passing. I fail to see how thr discussion on xml standards implementations is of any interest to our users. May I (respectfully) suggest that interested parties bring this

[libreoffice-users] Re: Acess2Base

2014-08-11 Thread Jim Byrnes
On 08/11/2014 03:05 PM, Stefan Gruber wrote: Hello, Jim Byrnes schrieb am Sonntag, 10. August 2014 23:47: A couple of questions: (1) Has anyone here used it and does it make writing macros for Base easier? I looked at the examples a few weeks ago, and it seemed to me as a clearer approach

Re: [libreoffice-users] Currently Using Spreadsheet for Personal Project - Thinking About Database

2014-08-11 Thread Paul
Hi Joel, Some comments on your diagram, in the order I thought of them, not of importance: 1) I tend to use integers for primary keys. Smallints only go into the thousands, and most of the stuff I have worked on has needed to be able to scale well beyond that. Even things that seem small to

Re: [libreoffice-users] Currently Using Spreadsheet for Personal Project - Thinking About Database

2014-08-11 Thread Mark Phillips
Calibre is also a great idea/solution for this project, unless one of the goals of the project is to learn about databases and how to use a database to solve a real world problem. I added the second clause, because just learning about databases an admirable goal, but imo, one also should learn how

[libreoffice-users] Question about Calc and hiding rows

2014-08-11 Thread Tom Williams
My dad is a long time OpenOffice user and today he called me about a problem he's having with one of his spreadsheets. Apparently, he hides rows to reduce the amount of information he sees when he's looking at the spreadsheet. Today, he needed to change a cell in one of the hidden rows. When

Re: [libreoffice-users] shortcut keys for LibreOffice under Linux

2014-08-11 Thread Thomas
(2014/08/11 11:53), T. R. Valentine wrote: On 10 August 2014 21:13, Thomas ny...@hb.tp1.jp wrote: A new installation of (X)ubuntu 14.04 on two different machines comes with LibreOffice. Perhaps the difference is XCFE. Yes, you are right! Under Xubuntu using XCFE the shortcut keys are

Re: [libreoffice-users] Question about Calc and hiding rows

2014-08-11 Thread Brian Barker
At 19:34 11/08/2014 -0700, Tom Williams wrote: My dad is a long time OpenOffice user and today he called me about a problem he's having with one of his spreadsheets. Apparently, he hides rows to reduce the amount of information he sees when he's looking at the spreadsheet. Today, he needed to