On Sat, 26 Apr 2014 22:12:58 +0700
Urmas davian...@gmail.com wrote:
James Knott:
IIRC, the formats that are no longer supported
are the ancient StarOffice ones.
StarOffice 5.2 was released in 1998. If that is 'ancient' for you, you are
an idiot that should be kept out from developing
On 26/04/14 17:12, Urmas wrote:
StarOffice 5.2 was released in 1998. If that is 'ancient' for you, you
are an idiot that should be kept out from developing office software.
Insulting other mailing list subscribers is absolutely unacceptable, not
only because it is against the Netiquette but
Hi :)
+1
It would be great if this mailing list could be a family friendly place.
It is not always easy to come up with dignified responses that deals with
FUD in a witty and humorous way but doing so might make this list a more
friendly place to be. Please can we just try to rise above it
Toki:
What you are missing is that there are file layout differences between
the various editions of the same version of MSO.
All those differences are hierarchic. You can read all the files of earlier
version and have a way to ignore unsupported elements from the higher
version.
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On April 27, 2014 4:18:55 AM PDT, Urmas wrote:
What you are missing is that there are file layout differences between the
various editions of the same version of MSO.
All those differences are hierarchic.
That does not negate the differences in the file format of the various
editions of
On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 11:36:36 +0200
Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com wrote:
On 26/04/14 17:12, Urmas wrote:
StarOffice 5.2 was released in 1998. If that is 'ancient' for you, you
are an idiot that should be kept out from developing office software.
Insulting other mailing list
James Knott:
IIRC, the formats that are no longer supported
are the ancient StarOffice ones.
StarOffice 5.2 was released in 1998. If that is 'ancient' for you, you are
an idiot that should be kept out from developing office software.
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On 4/26/2014 11:12 AM, Urmas davian...@gmail.com wrote:
StarOffice 5.2 was released in 1998. If that is 'ancient' for you, you
are an idiot that should be kept out from developing office software.
16 years? Yes, that is ANCIENT in computer/software terms, for both
hardware AND software.
If
On April 26, 2014 10:42:53 AM PDT, Tanstaafl wrote:
16 years? Yes, that is ANCIENT in computer/software terms, for both hardware
AND software.
It might be old, but that does not mean no longer used.
Ideally, the extension to import those file formats would have been released
prior to ripping
On 4/26/2014 2:18 PM, toki toki.kant...@gmail.com wrote:
Those that don't undertstand why sofware that is 15+ years old is
still used, perhaps need to revisit why software shouldbe designed as
if it will be used for the next century.
No one said it wasn't used, and that is totally irrelevant
Urmas wrote:
you are an idiot that should be kept out from developing office software.
Gee I didn't know I was developing office software. Thanks for
letting me know.
BTW, in case you haven't noticed, things have changed a bit in the past
16 years. Back then, there was still a lot of
Hi :)
I kinda gather that it is possible to develop new filters for the format,
perhaps as an Extension. There just doesn't seem to have been much
interest in it.
Also it is still easily possible to get older versions of software that can
read it and convert. Such older software not being
Tom Davies wrote:
Also it is still easily possible to get older versions of software that can
read it and convert.
So, what's the latest version of LibreOffice or OpenOffice that will
read those formats? If needed, they could be used to save those old
files in a newer format.
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Hi James,
On 26 April 2014 21:36, James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com wrote:
Tom Davies wrote:
Also it is still easily possible to get older versions of software that
can
read it and convert.
So, what's the latest version of LibreOffice or OpenOffice that will
read those formats? If
Good day,
Thank you for your reply. I have copied the Microsoft Word Normal.dot file
into my Home Folder/Documents (Ubuntu 12.04 LTS). Open LibreOffice Writer
3.5.7.2 and followed the follwoing steps:
File Wizards Document Converter Microsoft Office Word Documents Next
Word Templates
At 22:32 22/04/2014 -0700, Herman Konly wrote:
Documents converted and the following log file is generated:
[...]
Normal.dot Normal.ott
Document macro has to be revised.
That's probably the best you can do without editing your template
further yourself - in particular its contained macro(s).
Le 22/04/2014 20:06, Urmas a écrit :
Meanwhile, Libreoffice cannot open its own documents from 2001.
Urmas, you are right.
Yes, I too, remember a guarantee made by the LibreOffice project on its
inception to future-proof one's data against arbitrary changes in file
format or vendor
On Wed, 2014-04-23 at 10:24 +0200, Alex Thurgood wrote:
The dev working on LO didn't like the StarOffice binary filter code
Hated it with a passion is probably a better description than didn't
like - that code screwed us over and held us back very significantly.
It was a cut/paste of
It's no secret that LO users tend to dislike M$. While I love LO, I've
tended to give M$ perhaps more benefit of the doubt than they deserve. I
still use Windows 7 on my laptop, although after many fits and starts, I
have finally succeeded in getting a true dual boot Ubuntu setup. I'm
using
On 04/23/2014 07:57 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote:
It's no secret that LO users tend to dislike M$. While I love LO, I've
tended to give M$ perhaps more benefit of the doubt than they deserve.
I still use Windows 7 on my laptop, although after many fits and
starts, I have finally succeeded in
Hi :)
You can use Nabble to share the document. Use any of the links in this
email but it's better practice to go to the official LIbreOffice website and
navigate through
Get Help - Nabble - Users - errr, and then find your thread, you might
need to register at the site
when you start to write
Hi :)
There will be a lot of pranks and malware aimed at Xp users offering them
free upgrades and what-not. Apparently it has already started. Just
ignore them all.
Wrt MS Security Essentials best bet is to install AVG (apparently best of
the free anti-viruses (but according to who, right?)) or
Urmas wrote:
Yeah, that really a problem, especially since LO didn't exist back then.
It was called StarOffice back then.
StarOffice became OpenOffice. LibreOffice split off from OpenOffice
when Oracle took over. IIRC, the formats that are no longer supported
are the ancient StarOffice ones.
Alex Thurgood wrote:
The dev working on LO didn't like the StarOffice binary filter code, so
they got rid of it, simple as that - they certainly didn't care whether
people who had started using the original product, the one that gave
birth both to OOo and LO, over 10 years ago would still want
Hi.
A work colleague just tried Zorin (http://zorin-os.com/) as a
replacement on a laptop. Look and feel sooo similar to Win and uses
Ubuntu repositories. The download will run as a live disc to check out
all your hardware will work.
Worked well, a little fiddle with the wifi, but in all a
On 4/22/2014 11:06 AM, Urmas wrote:
For the last 23 years Microsoft Office has changed its format TWICE.
What you are missing is that there are file layout differences between
the various editions of the same version of MSO.
There are also file layout differences between the different
MSFT has been/is making their system(s) incompatible with others in
order to reap a higher profit-margin ;-(
Therefore switching away from MSFT is a great way to - possibly -
show them the errors of their ways ;-)
Now, if you could explain just what you're attempting to
anne-ology
MSFT has been/is making their system(s) incompatible with others in
order to reap a higher profit-margin ;-(
For the last 23 years Microsoft Office has changed its format TWICE.
Meanwhile, Libreoffice cannot open its own documents from 2001.
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not true;
I can open anything with LO which was created initially with OO;
yet MSFT has come up with a new version nearly every year -
almost incompatible with the previous version;
if I use MSFT Office 2003 to make a document those with
these latest
On 22/04/2014 20:06, Urmas wrote:
For the last 23 years Microsoft Office has changed its format TWICE.
Meanwhile, Libreoffice cannot open its own documents from 2001.
Microsoft has slightly changed the file format for each new release,
although it has never changed the extension. Are you paid
Urmas wrote:
Meanwhile, Libreoffice cannot open its own documents from 2001.
Yeah, that really a problem, especially since LO didn't exist back then.
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On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 01:06:14 +0700
Urmas davian...@gmail.com wrote:
anne-ology
MSFT has been/is making their system(s) incompatible with others in
order to reap a higher profit-margin ;-(
For the last 23 years Microsoft Office has changed its format TWICE.
Meanwhile, Libreoffice
On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 16:03:50 -0400
James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com wrote:
Urmas wrote:
Meanwhile, Libreoffice cannot open its own documents from 2001.
Yeah, that really a problem, especially since LO didn't exist back then.
+1
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I do NOT appreciate being mis-quoted;
I was responding to that Urmas who made the inane MSFT comments.
If you were to read the whole bit, ... ... ...
but I guess that goes against common sense :-(
Out of the 2 sentences below, the first is part of my
Sort of getting off topic here :)
My understanding is that Herman has a template created for MS Word. He
wants to use this template in LO and therefore needs to convert it into
the format LO uses.
It was designed for Office 97 to 2000 and only works on certain computers with
Office
James Knott:
Yeah, that really a problem, especially since LO didn't exist back then.
It was called StarOffice back then.
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Hi :)
Not quite. It may have changed the name of the formats it uses twice but
OOXML (the .docX etc) has at least 4 different versions including 3
different transitional versions and all are apparently quite different
from the version they managed to get accredited as an ISO format.
The older
Hi :)
Yes, to both the last 2 questions.
I'm fairly sure you can just double-click on a .dot to open it in
LibreOffice and then
File - Save as Template
However it is likely to be a good idea to start afresh and create a new
template using .ott from the start. MS formats tend to be riddled with
Hi :)
I think we have all experienced that sort of thing.
This mailing list is meant for sharing ideas and building up answers. it's
not made to be precise about who came up with posts.
The thing was certainly said but it's difficult to know who said it except
for 2 facts;
1. we know what you
Hey,
Easy tigers! Remember this is meant to be a family-friendly environment!
Not that i've ever met a friendly family and kids these days seem to know
more about swearing than the adults but lets pretend they don't know 'em
and just avoid teaching them any new ones!
Regards from
Tom ;)
On 22
Hi :)
Nice answer! :))) I think top-marks to James. My answer was too ponderous
and boring.
Of course i think Star Office and maybe even OpenOffice were around back
then so in a way LibreOffice was, but just not under the same name. (kinda
the opposite of MS formats as it happens!)
Regards
Hi :)
It should be possible to just double-click on the Normal.doc to open it.
However, it is probably full of junk by now = such as tons of extraneous
coding and odd references to stuff that is long gone and maybe your address
and other people's names and systems that the template has been used
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