On 11/15/2013 01:46 PM, jonathon wrote:
On 11/11/2013 05:13 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
You go to the opening web page, http://www.libreoffice.org/, and LO
is promoting Version 4. Click download, and as of right now, you end up
downloading 4.1.3. But, you go for documentation, and it's for 4.0.
On 11/9/13 12:25 PM, Paul wrote:
Interesting article, and indeed it is true that the file format is the
most important aspect of the office suite debate, but I think you are a
little naive in your assumption that LO should stop doing any other
type of marketing.
From a programmer's
On 11/9/13 5:37 PM, M. Fioretti wrote:
On Sat, Nov 09, 2013 14:06:44 PM -0800, Pedro wrote:
Two points:
1) LibreOffice only started embedding fonts in ODF files in version 4.1
(released in July 2013); MS Office files have had this ability for YEARS. In
my opinion ODF files are NOW starting to
On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 10:13:49 -0700
Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote:
On 11/9/13 12:25 PM, Paul wrote:
Interesting article, and indeed it is true that the file format is
the most important aspect of the office suite debate, but I think
you are a little naive in your assumption that LO
M. Fioretti:
...shall-we-waste-twelve-more-years-promoting-free-office-suites-instead-of-open-office-formats/
There's no such thing as 'open format'. Any format can only slavishly
describe its reference implementation. There is no reference implementation
for ODF, except a monstrous
Don't worry, you can safely ignore Urmas, he's a known troll around
these parts; his bias is strongly (and probably paid for by) MS.
On Sun, 10 Nov 2013 02:33:04 +0700
Urmas davian...@gmail.com wrote:
M. Fioretti:
Paul:
Don't worry, you can safely ignore Urmas, he's a known troll around
these parts;
You're welcome to name a full reference implementation of ODF format not
using the OO.o/Staroffice code.
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Problems?
Paul:
...to do
what some company (like Microsoft) thinks you should be able to do, and
only if you pay them very well, open source software believes that
everybody should be able to do whatever they want. That's the very
nature of Open Source: you have the source, change it if you need to.
Oh
As far as I can gather, neither OASIS nor the ODF Technical Committee
require a reference implementation, so none has been named. I don't
know about the ISO standard, but I would assume this applies there too.
That said, OO.o/LO would be considered by most as the reference
implementation. As a
Two points:
1) LibreOffice only started embedding fonts in ODF files in version 4.1
(released in July 2013); MS Office files have had this ability for YEARS. In
my opinion ODF files are NOW starting to be useful as an editable file
exchange format.
2) Advocating ignoring MS files only makes
Jay Lozier wrote
Also, using ODF formats avoids the tweaking MS apparently does with
their formats with each new release.
I disagree. ODF has the same problem. That is why LO has an option to save
in ODF 1.0/1.1 or 1.2 and even 1.2 extended.
ODF has EXACTLY the same problem that accuses DOCX
On Sat, 9 Nov 2013 14:06:44 -0800 (PST)
Pedro pedl...@gmail.com wrote:
2) Advocating ignoring MS files only makes sense on a personal basis.
Por companies that is absurd. Maybe academia could start that
movement but it will take time before it reaches the companies...
Actually, it makes lots
I believe that companies should use open formats, but at this point in
time I have never seen a company that has moved from the standard MSO
formats. This is likely because the majority has not changed to open
formats. Once more people adopt using open formats, then we will likely
see a
On Sat, Nov 09, 2013 14:06:44 PM -0800, Pedro wrote:
Two points:
1) LibreOffice only started embedding fonts in ODF files in version 4.1
(released in July 2013); MS Office files have had this ability for YEARS. In
my opinion ODF files are NOW starting to be useful as an editable file
On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 00:38:21 AM +0200, Paul wrote:
This is something we should be advocating (as loudly as possible,
even), but we should be aware of the realities, and advocating it as
a sane option, not trying to force it down peoples throats.
When a public administration demands that you
On Sat, Nov 09, 2013 14:21:43 PM -0800, Pedro wrote:
The ONLY difference is...
can you generate MS Office documents automatically with just a few
lines of code as in http://freesoftware.zona-m.net/tag/odf-scripting ?
I'm sorry to break this idealism about ODF's perfection...
I explicitly say
On Sat, 2013-11-09 at 14:06 -0800, Pedro wrote: Two points: 1)
LibreOffice only started embedding fonts in ODF files in version 4.1
(released in July 2013); MS Office files have had this ability for
YEARS. In my opinion ODF files are NOW starting to be useful as an
editable file exchange
If everyone knows he's a troll why do so many bother responding in such
great lengths. Why bother feeding the troll. Everyone knows this, but
still so many feel obligated to defend. If you don't feed trolls, they
go away.
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