Re: [libreoffice-users] making graphics stay where you put them

2014-05-25 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 05/22/2014 07:52 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote: I think, conceptually, that is a problem. You can anchor to page, paragraph, character, and as character, whatever that means. If you anchor it as a character, then just think of it as one huge character. You can type text before and after it,

Re: [libreoffice-users] making graphics stay where you put them

2014-05-25 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi Andrew, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak schrieb: On 05/22/2014 07:52 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote: I think, conceptually, that is a problem. You can anchor to page, paragraph, character, and as character, whatever that means. If you anchor it as a character, then just think of it as one huge

Re: [libreoffice-users] making graphics stay where you put them

2014-05-25 Thread Bruce Byfield
On Thursday 22 May 2014 08:58:21 AM Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Bruce, Virgil, While other tools may be used for this it should be quite possible to achieve the same result with LibreOffice writer. Which suggests that a bug report is in order. Mind filing one? Hi: The bug report is

Re: [libreoffice-users] making graphics stay where you put them

2014-05-25 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 05/25/2014 10:44 AM, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi Andrew, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak schrieb: On 05/22/2014 07:52 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote: I think, conceptually, that is a problem. You can anchor to page, paragraph, character, and as character, whatever that means. If you anchor it as a

Re: [libreoffice-users] making graphics stay where you put them

2014-05-22 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Bruce, Virgil, On 22 mai 2014 05:40:39 CEST, Bruce Byfield bbyfi...@axion.net wrote: On Wednesday 21 May 2014 10:22:41 PM Dan Lewis wrote: On 05/21/2014 03:16 PM, Bruce Byfield wrote: If you've done much work positioning graphics in text, then you know how difficult it can be to make sure

Re: [libreoffice-users] making graphics stay where you put them

2014-05-22 Thread Hedley Finger
All:Forget about text. Just try pasting/importing graphics into a Calc cell. Anchor goes anywhere, strange things happen when you copy and paste cell, or resize column or row intersecting with cell. Graphics handling is so crap I can't believe these bugs are still

Re: [libreoffice-users] making graphics stay where you put them

2014-05-22 Thread Virgil Arrington
On 5/21/2014 9:39 PM, Bruce Byfield wrote: I wonder: 1. Is the number of pictures the problem? Or was there some way in which the program was trying to do the impossible -- for instance, keeping a picture in a position that was too small for it? I know the picture would fit in the space I

Re: [libreoffice-users] making graphics stay where you put them

2014-05-22 Thread Dan Lewis
w On 05/21/2014 11:40 PM, Bruce Byfield wrote: On Wednesday 21 May 2014 10:22:41 PM Dan Lewis wrote: On 05/21/2014 03:16 PM, Bruce Byfield wrote: If you've done much work positioning graphics in text, then you know how difficult it can be to make sure that the graphics stay in place. In the

Re: [libreoffice-users] making graphics stay where you put them

2014-05-22 Thread Virgil Arrington
On 5/21/2014 6:50 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Those are specialist tools each for a single purpose. They are mostly part of the same eco-system as LibreOffice. LibreOffice is the only one that does so many different things and is the only office suite. For example Lyx is not a better

Re: [libreoffice-users] making graphics stay where you put them

2014-05-22 Thread Virgil Arrington
On 5/21/2014 10:22 PM, Dan Lewis wrote: When inserting a graphic, the following steps are used: 1. Create a paragraph style for the frames with the alignment centered and any other style properties needed. 2 Create an empty paragraph. 3. Create a frame anchored to this paragraph 4. Anchor the

Re: [libreoffice-users] making graphics stay where you put them

2014-05-22 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Yes, but the 1 program/suite approach is convenient when you have to do something only once a year or even less often and are able to do so with fairly familiar tools, or at least with familiar support (such as this mailing list) Writer is not a truly amazing DeskTop Publishing program but

Re: [libreoffice-users] making graphics stay where you put them

2014-05-22 Thread Bruce Byfield
Charles: I'd be happy to file a bug report, but I'm hoping to find out a bit more the situation before I do. This delay is partly selfish, because my personal need is to find a workaround, but I'm hoping it will also help correct the problem if I can give some details. On Thursday 22 May 2014

Re: [libreoffice-users] making graphics stay where you put them

2014-05-22 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 05/21/2014 03:16 PM, Bruce Byfield wrote: If you've done much work positioning graphics in text, then you know how difficult it can be to make sure that the graphics stay in place. In the past, many experts have come up with recommendations about the best settings to use, but these

[libreoffice-users] making graphics stay where you put them

2014-05-21 Thread Bruce Byfield
If you've done much work positioning graphics in text, then you know how difficult it can be to make sure that the graphics stay in place. In the past, many experts have come up with recommendations about the best settings to use, but these suggestions either don't work if you try to export to

Re: [libreoffice-users] making graphics stay where you put them

2014-05-21 Thread Virgil Arrington
Bruce, Your post is very timely. I've been wrestling with a document containing 15 photographs with captions. I wanted to insert them into the text with text wrapping around the pictures. I made numerous attempts and often found myself trying to move or resize a picture just a little bit.

Re: [libreoffice-users] making graphics stay where you put them

2014-05-21 Thread Bruce Byfield
Hi, Tom: Mainly in relation to the wording around them. On Wednesday 21 May 2014 09:26:21 PM Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Do you mean position of the images in relation to the wording around them or static on specific pages regardless of the text (or lack of) on that page? Regards from Tom :)

Re: [libreoffice-users] making graphics stay where you put them

2014-05-21 Thread Virgil Arrington
Okay, Bruce, I just tried method 1 using LO 4.1.5.3 on Windows 7. I inserted about 11 pictures. I then resized them using a Frame Style I had previously set up. I then moved them into position where I wanted them and, once in place, I protected both their positions and size using your first

Re: [libreoffice-users] making graphics stay where you put them

2014-05-21 Thread Virgil Arrington
On 5/21/2014 4:36 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I've had trouble with text not flowing into obvious white-spaces between fairly large images. I've got a feeling that Draw might be better for my newsletter but i've never had time to set-up the text-boxes and really give it a fair go. Other

Re: [libreoffice-users] making graphics stay where you put them

2014-05-21 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Do you mean position of the images in relation to the wording around them or static on specific pages regardless of the text (or lack of) on that page? Regards from Tom :) On 21 May 2014 20:16, Bruce Byfield bbyfi...@axion.net wrote: If you've done much work positioning graphics in

Re: [libreoffice-users] making graphics stay where you put them

2014-05-21 Thread Bruce Byfield
Virgil: I didn't think it could be so easy. I suspect that the second method may be more reliable. Frames seem to be wonky in the latest releases, but tables seem to have fewer problems. On Wednesday 21 May 2014 06:26:44 PM Virgil Arrington wrote: Okay, Bruce, I just tried method 1 using LO

Re: [libreoffice-users] making graphics stay where you put them

2014-05-21 Thread Virgil Arrington
On 5/21/2014 4:26 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Do you mean position of the images in relation to the wording around them or static on specific pages regardless of the text (or lack of) on that page? Regards from Tom :) I think you've hit the nail on the head in terms of identifying the

Re: [libreoffice-users] making graphics stay where you put them

2014-05-21 Thread Bruce Byfield
On Wednesday 21 May 2014 09:01:19 PM Virgil Arrington wrote: I think you've hit the nail on the head in terms of identifying the challenge for the LO developers. When positioning pictures, you want them both in a certain place on a page *and* you want certain text around them -- hence the

Re: [libreoffice-users] making graphics stay where you put them

2014-05-21 Thread Dan Lewis
On 05/21/2014 03:16 PM, Bruce Byfield wrote: If you've done much work positioning graphics in text, then you know how difficult it can be to make sure that the graphics stay in place. In the past, many experts have come up with recommendations about the best settings to use, but these

Re: [libreoffice-users] making graphics stay where you put them

2014-05-21 Thread Bruce Byfield
On Wednesday 21 May 2014 10:22:41 PM Dan Lewis wrote: On 05/21/2014 03:16 PM, Bruce Byfield wrote: If you've done much work positioning graphics in text, then you know how difficult it can be to make sure that the graphics stay in place. In the past, many experts have come up with

Re: [libreoffice-users] making graphics stay where you put them

2014-05-21 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Those are specialist tools each for a single purpose. They are mostly part of the same eco-system as LibreOffice. LibreOffice is the only one that does so many different things and is the only office suite. For example Lyx is not a better spreadsheet program. So you are not being

Re: [libreoffice-users] making graphics stay where you put them

2014-05-21 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I've had trouble with text not flowing into obvious white-spaces between fairly large images. I've got a feeling that Draw might be better for my newsletter but i've never had time to set-up the text-boxes and really give it a fair go. Other people have been urging me to try inkscape for