Applications do not close with new kernel

2012-02-18 Thread Roger
None of my apps close since the last kernel kernel update and everything becomes inaccessible.. Opening apps is fine but then the system stops, not the keyboard fortunately. The only way to kill an app is to ctrlaltF2 and log in again then try to kill the app or reboot. Roger -- users

Cryptsetup luks Invalid password F16

2012-02-18 Thread Frank Murphy
Switched on this morning. Can get into /devsda4 (root) But as systemd starts doing it's stuff, dropped to emergency shell. Both /dev/sda3 (swap), /dev/sdb2 (home) invalid password They are unlocked with a keyfile at /root/keyfile. pointed to in /etc/crypttab Now have tried: (twice, same

Re: issues logging in after fresh install fc16

2012-02-18 Thread Les Howell
--- On Fri, 2/17/12, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: From: Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au Subject: Re: issues logging in after fresh install fc16 To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Date: Friday, February 17, 2012, 8:29 PM On Fri, 2012-02-17 at 19:59

Re: Alsa-utils update broken

2012-02-18 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/15/2012 06:00 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:10:00 +0100, RC (Ralf) wrote: [...] Playing down the issues and to wipe them under the carpet doesn't help anybody. Who's playing down the issues? Don't make up such things Well, as I read your response, you have been

Re: issues logging in after fresh install fc16 SOLVED!!

2012-02-18 Thread les
On Sat, 2012-02-18 at 02:05 -0800, Les Howell wrote: --- On Fri, 2/17/12, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: From: Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au Subject: Re: issues logging in after fresh install fc16 To: Community support for Fedora users

Re: Alsa-utils update broken

2012-02-18 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 11:11:38 +0100, RC (Ralf) wrote: On 02/15/2012 06:00 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:10:00 +0100, RC (Ralf) wrote: [...] Playing down the issues and to wipe them under the carpet doesn't help anybody. Who's playing down the issues? Don't make

Re: xsane problem -

2012-02-18 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 17/02/12 22:18, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: On Feb 17, 2012 4:28 PM, Bob Goodwin bobgood...@wildblue.net wrote: This is a new install F-16/64 recently updated. Xsane is unable to detect the HP Scanjet 5370c scanner. Reports no devices available. It appears to be detected as a USB

Re: Evolution error

2012-02-18 Thread John Mellor
On Sat, 2012-02-18 at 02:55 -0800, les wrote: It appears the automatic importation of the older evolution stuff still has a bug or two. I wrote and sent the solved message, and it apparently went out, but I received the following error message: Your message was sent, but an error occurred

Re: issues logging in after fresh install fc16

2012-02-18 Thread Genes MailLists
On 02/17/2012 10:59 PM, Les Howell wrote: ... 1. back up all users using TAR. ... 7. copy the splits back to /home , use cat to rejoin them and tar -xf. : all good user directories fully restored. Most people have /home being a separate partition ... I'm not sure I really understand your

Installing package kernel-3.2.6-3.fc16.x86_64 needs 9MB on the /boot filesystem

2012-02-18 Thread Paul Smith
Dear All, I am experiencing the following problem: --- # yum upgrade kernel Loaded plugins: presto, refresh-packagekit Setting up Upgrade Process Resolving Dependencies -- Running transaction check --- Package kernel.x86_64 0:3.2.6-3.fc16 will be installed

Re: Installing package kernel-3.2.6-3.fc16.x86_64 needs 9MB on the /boot filesystem

2012-02-18 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 15:34:05 +, PS (Paul) wrote: Transaction Check Error: installing package kernel-3.2.6-3.fc16.x86_64 needs 9MB on the /boot filesystem Error Summary - Disk Requirements: At least 9MB more space needed on the /boot filesystem. [root@localhost

Re: iptables? issue

2012-02-18 Thread nullv
  This is what I did some time ago. I've not tried it with the latest iptables. (I spun my own firewall.) REDIR is the local IP to be redirected to. And REDIRPORT is the port to be redirected. EXTIF and INTIF are probably obvious. (If they aren't you may need some reading time.)

Re: lv_home can't be mount at boot time

2012-02-18 Thread nullv
I had the same problem but it was filesystem (nilfs2) related. For some reason kernel 3.2.x doesn't support nilfs2 filesystems (i only use for my home dir). yum install/update nilfs-tools doesn't help/change/fix the problem either. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: Installing package kernel-3.2.6-3.fc16.x86_64 needs 9MB on the /boot filesystem

2012-02-18 Thread Paul Smith
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote: Transaction Check Error:   installing package kernel-3.2.6-3.fc16.x86_64 needs 9MB on the /boot filesystem Error Summary - Disk Requirements:   At least 9MB more space needed on the /boot filesystem.

Re: issues logging in after fresh install fc16

2012-02-18 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2012-02-18 at 02:05 -0800, Les Howell wrote: And for those who don't like the new format of the desktop +1 to get to a specific application before with a right click and a pull down, it is replaced with two clicks, a scroll some more clicks and other handwaving of one sort or

Re: Installing package kernel-3.2.6-3.fc16.x86_64 needs 9MB on the /boot filesystem

2012-02-18 Thread Paul Smith
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Paul Smith phh...@gmail.com wrote: Transaction Check Error:   installing package kernel-3.2.6-3.fc16.x86_64 needs 9MB on the /boot filesystem Error Summary - Disk Requirements:   At least 9MB more space needed on the /boot filesystem.

Re: Cryptsetup luks Invalid password F16

2012-02-18 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 18.02.2012, Frank Murphy wrote: Switched on this morning. Can get into /devsda4 (root) But as systemd starts doing it's stuff, dropped to emergency shell. Both /dev/sda3 (swap), /dev/sdb2 (home) invalid password I have encountered this several times on my job machine (F16), but

Re: Recovery mode. Login as root without password

2012-02-18 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 16.02.2012, Bruno Wolff III wrote: I prefer to use encrypted disks. This protects against casual stuff and going much farther gets a lot harder when you are assuming people have unsupervised physical access to your machine. If you have sensible data stored on your machine and somebody

Re: F16 - Crashtastic

2012-02-18 Thread John Wendel
On 02/17/2012 01:34 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 07:32:18 -0600, RM (Ranjan) wrote: On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 20:24:59 -0800, JW (John) wrote: My F16 - Gnome box has developed an ugly bug today with the latest updates (from updates-testing). Randomly, but very frequently, when

Re: xsane problem -

2012-02-18 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 18/02/12 12:24, fred smith wrote: On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 09:36:00AM -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 17/02/12 22:18, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: Try installing the 'hplip' and 'hplip-gui' packages, then run the `hp-setup` utility. I recently set up an HP combination scanner/printer, and while

Re: Installing package kernel-3.2.6-3.fc16.x86_64 needs 9MB on the /boot filesystem

2012-02-18 Thread M A Young
On Sat, 18 Feb 2012, Paul Smith wrote: On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Paul Smith phh...@gmail.com wrote: Transaction Check Error:   installing package kernel-3.2.6-3.fc16.x86_64 needs 9MB on the /boot filesystem # rpm -q kernel kernel-3.1.0-7.fc16.x86_64 # Let me add that I have just

Re: issues logging in after fresh install fc16

2012-02-18 Thread les
On Sat, 2012-02-18 at 10:27 -0500, Genes MailLists wrote: On 02/17/2012 10:59 PM, Les Howell wrote: ... 1. back up all users using TAR. ... 7. copy the splits back to /home , use cat to rejoin them and tar -xf. : all good user directories fully restored. Most people have /home being

Re: Evolution error

2012-02-18 Thread les
On Sat, 2012-02-18 at 09:59 -0500, John Mellor wrote: On Sat, 2012-02-18 at 02:55 -0800, les wrote: It appears the automatic importation of the older evolution stuff still has a bug or two. I wrote and sent the solved message, and it apparently went out, but I received the following error

VMware workstation 8 on linux 2.6.42 (Fedora 15) anyone?

2012-02-18 Thread Dean S. Messing
A recent update installed the 2.6.42.3-2 kernel and now VMware Workstation 8.0.2 (and 8.0.1) won't compile its modules. Does anyone know if module patches have been issued. I've been unable to find them. Secondarily, is anyone here running Workstation 8 with the 2.6.42 kernel? Thanks! --

Re: VMware workstation 8 on linux 2.6.42 (Fedora 15) anyone?

2012-02-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.02.2012 20:30, schrieb Dean S. Messing: A recent update installed the 2.6.42.3-2 kernel and now VMware Workstation 8.0.2 (and 8.0.1) won't compile its modules. Does anyone know if module patches have been issued. I've been unable to find them. Secondarily, is anyone here running

Re: VMware workstation 8 on linux 2.6.42 (Fedora 15) anyone?

2012-02-18 Thread Dean S. Messing
On 18th Feb, 2012 at 11:39:07 PST, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 18.02.2012 20:30, schrieb Dean S. Messing: A recent update installed the 2.6.42.3-2 kernel and now VMware Workstation 8.0.2 (and 8.0.1) won't compile its modules. Does anyone know if module patches have been issued. I've been

Re: Installing package kernel-3.2.6-3.fc16.x86_64 needs 9MB on the /boot filesystem

2012-02-18 Thread Paul Smith
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 6:36 PM, M A Young m.a.yo...@durham.ac.uk wrote: Transaction Check Error:   installing package kernel-3.2.6-3.fc16.x86_64 needs 9MB on the /boot filesystem # rpm -q kernel kernel-3.1.0-7.fc16.x86_64 # Let me add that I have just upgraded from F14 to F16. Have

Desktop desires and questions

2012-02-18 Thread les
HI, everyone, I know that this has been discussed before, and I will go back and read more of that. I want more efficient use of my desktop. Pretty is nice for most people and of course design driven types, but I am a technophile, closer to Sheldon (of big bang theory) than

Re: issues logging in after fresh install fc16

2012-02-18 Thread Genes MailLists
On 02/18/2012 01:42 PM, les wrote: Hi, gene, I know, and I even had a separate disk for the users for a while, which I really like using. I can unplug it for some work, or even substitute it for some security type work, but some time ago I had a problem with the disk not mounting

Re: VMware workstation 8 on linux 2.6.42 (Fedora 15) anyone?

2012-02-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.02.2012 21:12, schrieb Dean S. Messing: On 18th Feb, 2012 at 11:39:07 PST, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 18.02.2012 20:30, schrieb Dean S. Messing: A recent update installed the 2.6.42.3-2 kernel and now VMware Workstation 8.0.2 (and 8.0.1) won't compile its modules. Does anyone know if

Re: Desktop desires and questions

2012-02-18 Thread Genes MailLists
On 02/18/2012 03:17 PM, les wrote: HI, everyone, I know that this has been discussed before, and I will go back and read more of that. I want more efficient use of my desktop. Pretty is nice for most people and of course design driven types, but I am a technophile, closer

Re: Desktop desires and questions

2012-02-18 Thread Steven Stern
On 02/18/2012 02:17 PM, les wrote: HI, everyone, I know that this has been discussed before, and I will go back and read more of that. I want more efficient use of my desktop. Pretty is nice for most people and of course design driven types, but I am a technophile, closer

Installing MPLABX on F16 SOLVED

2012-02-18 Thread les
I have already gotten this to work, but this is my process in case it will help someone else. 1. download the latest MPLABX from microchip 2. run the installer 3. touch /.autorelable just to ensure SELinux picks up the files 4. reboot 5. login as the user 6. got the OH no message. 7.

Re: Desktop desires and questions

2012-02-18 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sat, 2012-02-18 at 14:58 -0600, Steven Stern wrote: On 02/18/2012 02:17 PM, les wrote: HI, everyone, I know that this has been discussed before, and I will go back and read more of that. I want more efficient use of my desktop. Pretty is nice for most people and of

Re: Desktop desires and questions

2012-02-18 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 18Feb2012 12:17, les hlhow...@pacbell.net wrote: | I know that this has been discussed before, and I will go back and read | more of that. | The need to click to get to the computer is annoying at its very best | and a real vocabulary expander in normal use. Every time I use one |

Re: Desktop desires and questions

2012-02-18 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Saturday 18 February 2012 12:17:53 les wrote: I want more efficient use of my desktop. [snip] Here is what I find in using the desktop as it exists in F16: [snip] This is so ergonomically inefficient, so slowing that it adversely impacts my progress. I sympathize. Gnome3 is

Re: iptables? issue

2012-02-18 Thread jdow
On 2012/02/18 08:23, nu...@gmx.com wrote: This is what I did some time ago. I've not tried it with the latest iptables. (I spun my own firewall.) REDIR is the local IP to be redirected to. And REDIRPORT is the port to be redirected. EXTIF and INTIF are probably obvious. (If they aren't you may

Re: startx fails with new kernel

2012-02-18 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/17/2012 02:21 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: I don't know, but I assume yum will pull in any and all dependencies required to make it work, including the kernel header packages and the development toolchain for compilation. Only if they're *listed* as dependencies. Back when I first installed

Re: startx fails with new kernel

2012-02-18 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/17/2012 10:46 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: The nvidia driver can be obtained in two different ways. One way is to download the appropriate .run file from nVidia website and run it. This is the*wrong* way, since it doesn't play nice with Fedora, overwrites some system files, and is a pain to

Re: Applications do not close with new kernel

2012-02-18 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/18/2012 12:39 AM, Roger wrote: None of my apps close since the last kernel kernel update and everything becomes inaccessible.. Opening apps is fine but then the system stops, not the keyboard fortunately. The only way to kill an app is to ctrlaltF2 and log in again then try to kill the

Re: issues logging in after fresh install fc16

2012-02-18 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/18/2012 07:27 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: Most people have /home being a separate partition ... I'm not sure I really understand your setup, but of course backups are good - however there should be no need to re-copy/home/ if you keep it a separate partition. It will also keep all the

Re: issues logging in after fresh install fc16

2012-02-18 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/18/2012 08:54 AM, Tim wrote: After brief playing around with it, I decided it was an incredibly stupid interface, and made use of the gnome fallback option, to give me a Gnome 2 kind of interface. But it's still overblown and sluggish. If you find Gnome, even in fallback mode to be

Re: xsane problem -

2012-02-18 Thread ny6p01
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 07:48:08PM -0800, Paul Allen Newell wrote: On 2/17/2012 7:18 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: Try installing the 'hplip' and 'hplip-gui' packages, then run the `hp-setup` utility. I recently set up an HP combination scanner/printer, and while CUPS picked up

Re: xsane problem -

2012-02-18 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 2/18/2012 6:43 PM, ny6...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 07:48:08PM -0800, Paul Allen Newell wrote: On 2/17/2012 7:18 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: Try installing the 'hplip' and 'hplip-gui' packages, then run the `hp-setup` utility. I recently set up an HP combination

Re: xsane problem -

2012-02-18 Thread ny6p01
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 06:51:14PM -0800, Paul Allen Newell wrote: On 2/18/2012 6:43 PM, ny6...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 07:48:08PM -0800, Paul Allen Newell wrote: On 2/17/2012 7:18 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: Try installing the 'hplip' and 'hplip-gui' packages, then run

Re: Applications do not close with new kernel

2012-02-18 Thread Roger
On 19/02/12 12:18, Joe Zeff wrote: On 02/18/2012 12:39 AM, Roger wrote: None of my apps close since the last kernel kernel update and everything becomes inaccessible.. Opening apps is fine but then the system stops, not the keyboard fortunately. The only way to kill an app is to ctrlaltF2 and

Re: xsane problem -

2012-02-18 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 2/18/2012 7:22 PM, ny6...@gmail.com wrote: Paul, this may or may not help, but I think this site is really good as far as setting up a USB scanner with xsane. It is a Gentoo site, but I think most of it is applicable to Fedora as well. I can't help but think this problem is solvable with

Re: Applications do not close with new kernel

2012-02-18 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2012-02-19 at 14:41 +1100, Roger wrote: On 19/02/12 12:18, Joe Zeff wrote: On 02/18/2012 12:39 AM, Roger wrote: None of my apps close since the last kernel kernel update and everything becomes inaccessible.. Opening apps is fine but then the system stops, not the keyboard

Re: Applications do not close with new kernel

2012-02-18 Thread Roger
Thanks but the mouse is not functional when this happens. problem with the gnome3 desktop is the lack of easily findable shortcuts and hot keys. I cannot find a hot key to bring up a terminal so cannot try ps aux and kill the app that way. The only option is to switch to another login, I've

Re: Applications do not close with new kernel

2012-02-18 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/19/2012 02:01 PM, Roger wrote: Yep! I thought of that but if we ignore problems by disappearing them by using other apps then the problems continue. For me personally, highlighting an issue may go some way toward a resolution. Gnome 3 has significant issues to be resolved, many of

Re: Applications do not close with new kernel

2012-02-18 Thread Scott Doty
On 02/18/2012 10:01 PM, Roger wrote: Thanks but the mouse is not functional when this happens. problem with the gnome3 desktop is the lack of easily findable shortcuts and hot keys. I cannot find a hot key to bring up a terminal so cannot try ps aux and kill the app that way. The only

Re: xsane problem -

2012-02-18 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 2/18/2012 7:53 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: On 2/18/2012 7:22 PM, ny6...@gmail.com wrote: Paul, this may or may not help, but I think this site is really good as far as setting up a USB scanner with xsane. It is a Gentoo site, but I think most of it is applicable to Fedora as well. I

Re: Applications do not close with new kernel

2012-02-18 Thread Roger
The problem you are experiencing would probably be annoying to anyone/everyone but with the lack of responses not very widespread. Can we all assume that you've booted into the previous kernel and confirmed that it continues to function correctly? Yes, that's correct. Roger -- users mailing