Re: nscd and DNS cache

On 05/17/2012 12:21 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 05/17/2012 02:06 PM, JD wrote: That value is already set to false. I'm suggesting you set it to "true" to disable IPv6. Yes I did try Chrome. Chrome resolves domain names as fast as nslookup . After I browsed to a domain using Chrome, and it almost

Re: /etc/sysconfig/iptables was changed (not by me)

On 05/17/2012 12:25 AM, JD wrote: If I did not change /etc/sysconfig/iptables and render it totally open to accept all connections, then what would change it? Would yum update do that? Fixed /etc/sysconfig/iptables-config -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or cha

Re: nscd and DNS cache

On 05/17/2012 03:02 PM, JD wrote: > That was the magic bullett! > Thanx Ed. Welcome... > Strange that Chrome has IPV6 disabled by default, and FF does not. I don't think Chrome has IPv6 disabled...there isn't even a setting for it. I think it just deals with it in a more "intelligent" manner.

F16 Mount Issue

Hi All, On a fully up-to-date F16 system (as of this morning) I have an issue with remote mounting directories at boot. The machine's /etc/fstab contains these two lines: purse:/share /share nfs rw,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr,addr=192.168.1.10 0 0 mirror:/home /home nfs nfsvers=3,r

Re: F16 Mount Issue

On Thu, 17 May 2012 11:08:08 +0100 Jonathan Allen wrote: > How can I get this to work without manual intervention? Personally, I use a script in rc.local that checks /proc/mount against /etc/fstab and tries to mount anything that isn't already mounted - it is the only way I've found to make netwo

Re: F16 Mount Issue

On 05/17/2012 06:08 PM, Jonathan Allen wrote: > Hi All, > > On a fully up-to-date F16 system (as of this morning) I have an issue with > remote mounting directories at boot. The machine's /etc/fstab contains > these two lines: > > purse:/share /share nfs > rw,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr

Re: The death of Hibernate?

Where do we get these recruits? On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 7:35 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 06.03.2012 22:49, schrieb Rex Dieter: >> Geoffrey Leach wrote: >> >>> It appears that among some kernel maintainers there's an opinion that >>> the hibernate (suspend to disk) capability is of insufficie

Re: The death of Hibernate?

Am 17.05.2012 14:29, schrieb Joel Rees: >> you can guess how long it takes dump 16 GB to disk and load >> it > > Guess, > > Or calculate? calculate it it takes way too long it may acceptable on machines with real fast RAID10 but they are booting also much faster and are up in 10-15 secon

Re: The death of Hibernate?

On 17.5.2012 15:36, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 17.05.2012 14:29, schrieb Joel Rees: >> Do you understand the reason you still set up swap, even though your >> entire workload working set fits into RAM? > > there is no single reason if you have neough RAM > RAM is better used for disk cache

Re: The death of Hibernate?

Am 17.05.2012 14:46, schrieb Jari Fredriksson: > On 17.5.2012 15:36, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> >> Am 17.05.2012 14:29, schrieb Joel Rees: >>> Do you understand the reason you still set up swap, even though your >>> entire workload working set fits into RAM? >> >> there is no single reason if you

Evolution indiexing error

In evolution to the left of the screen there is a list of the names of the folders and next to the name in parenthesis a number representing the number of unread messages in the folder. That is working except for Inbox. The number is not decremented when a message is read. I did what has worked b

Re: The death of Hibernate?

Reindl Harald wrote: > again: swap may be usefull if you have too few RAM > on modern machines starting with 8-16 GB this is esotheric I agree. With the advent of x86_64 and dirt cheap RAM swap files/partitions should be phased out. Hibernate and suspend are no longer necessary or helpful function

Re: The death of Hibernate?

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 08:24:50AM -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > I agree. With the advent of x86_64 and dirt cheap RAM swap > files/partitions should be phased out. Hibernate and suspend are no > longer necessary or helpful functions either (on machines sold today). With all due respect, do

Re: The death of Hibernate?

Am 17.05.2012 15:30, schrieb Dave Ihnat: > On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 08:24:50AM -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: >> I agree. With the advent of x86_64 and dirt cheap RAM swap >> files/partitions should be phased out. Hibernate and suspend are no >> longer necessary or helpful functions either (on

Re: Evolution indiexing error

On Thu, 2012-05-17 at 08:19 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > In evolution to the left of the screen there is a list of the names of > the folders and next to the name in parenthesis a number representing > the number of unread messages in the folder. > > That is working except for Inbox. The number i

Re: The death of Hibernate?

On Thu, 2012-05-17 at 08:24 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Hibernate and suspend are no longer necessary or helpful functions > either (on machines sold today). I suspend on my Laptop, all the time. Quite apart from the speed issue, it's handy to be able to halt and resume, everything. --

Re: [389-users] Strange Disk IO issue

On 05/16/2012 07:48 PM, Brad Schuetz wrote: On 05/16/2012 06:24 PM, Rich Megginson wrote: On 05/16/2012 06:48 PM, Brad Schuetz wrote: Is there any way that I can remove the nsTombstone entries from the master server so I can get this under control? I think I found out why I have so many nsTomb

Re: Evolution indiexing error

On Thu, 2012-05-17 at 09:57 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2012-05-17 at 08:19 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > In evolution to the left of the screen there is a list of the names of > > the folders and next to the name in parenthesis a number representing > > the number of unread messa

Re: Evolution indiexing error

On Thu, 2012-05-17 at 10:31 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Thu, 2012-05-17 at 09:57 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Thu, 2012-05-17 at 08:19 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > > In evolution to the left of the screen there is a list of the names of > > > the folders and next to the name in

Re: F16 Mount Issue

Tom Horsley wrote: > Personally, I use a script in rc.local that checks > /proc/mount against /etc/fstab and tries to mount anything > that isn't already mounted - it is the only way I've found > to make network mounts reliable. Seems hit or miss > otherwise. Tom, Do you mind sharing that scrip

Re: The death of Hibernate?

On 05/17/2012 11:15 PM, Tim wrote: On Thu, 2012-05-17 at 08:24 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Hibernate and suspend are no longer necessary or helpful functions either (on machines sold today). I suspend on my Laptop, all the time. Quite apart from the speed issue, it's handy to be able to

Re: The death of Hibernate?

Once upon a time, Steve Underwood said: > On 05/17/2012 11:15 PM, Tim wrote: > >On Thu, 2012-05-17 at 08:24 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > >>Hibernate and suspend are no longer necessary or helpful functions > >>either (on machines sold today). > >I suspend on my Laptop, all the time. Quite

Re: The death of Hibernate?

Am 17.05.2012 17:52, schrieb Steve Underwood: > On 05/17/2012 11:15 PM, Tim wrote: >> On Thu, 2012-05-17 at 08:24 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: >>> Hibernate and suspend are no longer necessary or helpful functions >>> either (on machines sold today). >> I suspend on my Laptop, all the time.

Re: The death of Hibernate?

Once upon a time, Reindl Harald said: > sure? Yes. > i used a laptop from 2003 until 2011 as my main working machine > all the day and never came to the idea write a 6 GB to a slow > mobile-disk and load it the next time instead simply shutdown/boot Okay, so you don't want to use hibernate. Do

Re: The death of Hibernate?

On 05/17/2012 11:08 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 17.05.2012 17:52, schrieb Steve Underwood: >> On 05/17/2012 11:15 PM, Tim wrote: >>> On Thu, 2012-05-17 at 08:24 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Hibernate and suspend are no longer necessary or helpful functions either (on machines

Re: F16 Mount Issue

On Thu, 17 May 2012 10:52:15 -0500 (CDT) Matthew J. Roth wrote: > Do you mind sharing that script? It's a great idea for solving a common > problem. This will probably get mangled due to a few long lines, but I'll give it a shot. In the /etc/rc.d/rc.local script I have this line: /usr/local/b

Re: The death of Hibernate?

Once upon a time, Steven Stern said: > Wouldn't it be A Wonderful Thing if a Fedora laptop (or even a Windows > laptop) could suspend and restart as effortlessly as a MacBook? When I > close the lid on my MacBook, I am completely confident it will work when > I pop it back open. My Thinkpad with

Re: The death of Hibernate?

Am 17.05.2012 18:33, schrieb Chris Adams: > Once upon a time, Reindl Harald said: >> sure? > > Yes. > >> i used a laptop from 2003 until 2011 as my main working machine >> all the day and never came to the idea write a 6 GB to a slow >> mobile-disk and load it the next time instead simply shut

Re: Execution of /etc/rc.d/rc.local

On Wed, 16 May 2012 15:43:46 -0700 Geoffrey Leach wrote: > Thanks for the tip on synclient > > Restarting nfs services is being done because that was necessary in > order to get a connection from the client. Admittedly that was > several kernels ago :-) Yeah, that seems odd. I'd just let syste

Re: F16 Mount Issue

Tom Horsley wrote: > This will probably get mangled due to a few long lines, but I'll give it > a shot. Tom, It looks good from here. Thanks for saving me from reinventing that wheel. Just the sed incantations would've taken a while to come up with. Regards, Matthew Roth InterMedia Marketi

Re: F16 Mount Issue

Jonathan Allen wrote: Hi All, On a fully up-to-date F16 system (as of this morning) I have an issue with remote mounting directories at boot. The machine's /etc/fstab contains these two lines: purse:/share /share nfs rw,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr,addr=192.168.1.10 0 0 mirror:/h

Re: F16 Mount Issue

On 05/17/2012 09:54 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Jonathan Allen wrote: Hi All, On a fully up-to-date F16 system (as of this morning) I have an issue with remote mounting directories at boot. The machine's /etc/fstab contains these two lines: purse:/share /share nfs rw,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=1

/dev/ttyUSB0 changes to /dev/ttyUSB1

I have a device, namely a Davis Vantage Pro2 Weather Station Console, attached to the second USB port on a laptop; the first port is used by a mouse. Occasionally the port on which the console is visible changes from /dev/ttyUSB0 to /dev/ttyUSB1. I haven't noticed any reason for this, in particul

Re: /dev/ttyUSB0 changes to /dev/ttyUSB1

> I have a device, namely a Davis Vantage Pro2 Weather Station Console, > attached to the second USB port on a laptop; the first port is used by a > mouse. Occasionally the port on which the console is visible changes > from /dev/ttyUSB0 to /dev/ttyUSB1. I haven't noticed any reason for > this, i

Re: The death of Hibernate?

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 06:08:34PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 17.05.2012 17:52, schrieb Steve Underwood: > > On 05/17/2012 11:15 PM, Tim wrote: > >> On Thu, 2012-05-17 at 08:24 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > >>> Hibernate and suspend are no longer necessary or helpful functions > >

Re: The death of Hibernate?

On Thu, 2012-05-17 at 23:52 +0800, Steve Underwood wrote: > Quite right. Only someone who never uses a laptop could think hibernate > and suspend are no longer needed. I use hibernate daily on my desktop too. For various reasons, recovering a complete session, for me, can take quite a while. The

Re: The death of Hibernate?

Michael Cronenworth wrote: >> again: swap may be usefull if you have too few RAM >> on modern machines starting with 8-16 GB this is esotheric > > I agree. With the advent of x86_64 and dirt cheap RAM swap > files/partitions should be phased out. Hibernate and suspend are no > longer necessary or

Re: The death of Hibernate?

> Michael Cronenworth wrote: > You are talking nonsense if by "modern" you mean "recent". > > My daughter just bought an Asus laptop (1015BX) with 1GB RAM installed, > and a maximum 2GB RAM installable. here is the question why buying crap these days? my co-worker bought last year a notebook wi

Re: The death of Hibernate?

On Thu, 17 May 2012 22:09:36 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Michael Cronenworth wrote: > > You are talking nonsense if by "modern" you mean "recent". > > > > My daughter just bought an Asus laptop (1015BX) with 1GB RAM installed, > > and a maximum 2GB RAM installable. > > here is the questio

Re: The death of Hibernate?

Am 17.05.2012 22:19, schrieb Alan Cox: > On Thu, 17 May 2012 22:09:36 +0200 > Reindl Harald wrote: >>> My daughter just bought an Asus laptop (1015BX) with 1GB RAM installed, >>> and a maximum 2GB RAM installable. >> >> here is the question why buying crap these days? > > Its a pretty typical l

Re: The death of Hibernate?

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 10:09:36PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > i live in the world where someone starts his work in the > morining and powers on his computer once each day and > have all other machines running 365/7/24 > > waking up from suspend to disk takes much longer as a cold start Can you

Re: The death of Hibernate?

Am 17.05.2012 22:23, schrieb Darryl L. Pierce: > On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 10:09:36PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >> i live in the world where someone starts his work in the >> morining and powers on his computer once each day and >> have all other machines running 365/7/24 >> >> waking up from sus

Re: The death of Hibernate?

On 05/17/2012 01:09 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: i live in the world where someone starts his work in the morining and powers on his computer once each day and have all other machines running 365/7/24 Therefor, hibernate is wrong *for you.* Not everybody lives in your world; some people find that

Re: The death of Hibernate?

Am 17.05.2012 22:29, schrieb Joe Zeff: > On 05/17/2012 01:09 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> i live in the world where someone starts his work in the >> morining and powers on his computer once each day and >> have all other machines running 365/7/24 > > Therefor, hibernate is wrong *for you.* Not

Re: The death of Hibernate?

> someone may find it nice to have his previous desktop > state, but it is NOT faster than a cold boot It's faster than a cold boot to the previous desktop state, at least with Gnome 3's crap management of sessions. With Xfce probably it's faster to boot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedor

Re: The death of Hibernate?

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 10:27:55PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> i live in the world where someone starts his work in the > >> morining and powers on his computer once each day and > >> have all other machines running 365/7/24 > >> > >> waking up from suspend to disk takes much longer as a cold

Re: The death of Hibernate?

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 10:33:00PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > i said only suspned-to-disk is unuseable if you have > a modern machine with >= 16 GB RAM or a notebook with > 8 RAM and slow notebook-disks > > someone may find it nice to have his previous desktop > state, but it is NOT faster than

Re: The death of Hibernate?

Am 17.05.2012 22:37, schrieb Darryl L. Pierce: >> currently 25 seconds including a lot of services >> not used on a typical end-user machine > > Not so quickly for me. Granted my swap and home partitions are > encrypted, but the password entry is hard a second or two during the > boot process.

Re: The death of Hibernate?

On 05/17/2012 01:33 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: WHERE did i say that my way is the only right? Your attitude, your way of expressing yourself and the way you contemptuously dismiss anybody who doesn't agree with you all say it. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe o

Re: The death of Hibernate?

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 10:44:42PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 17.05.2012 22:37, schrieb Darryl L. Pierce: > >> currently 25 seconds including a lot of services > >> not used on a typical end-user machine > > > > Not so quickly for me. Granted my swap and home partitions are > > encrypt

Re: The death of Hibernate?

Am 17.05.2012 22:54, schrieb Darryl L. Pierce: > On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 10:44:42PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >> you did read the "a lot of services"? >> disable them and you are around 8-10 seconds on F16 > > Then that's not a usable system is it? I'm not talking about the base > boot speed b

Re: The death of Hibernate?

On 05/17/2012 01:54 PM, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: Then that's not a usable system is it? I'm not talking about the base boot speed but the boot speed with everything running. I have none of the ones you list below running on my system exception httpd and my boot time is 10s of seconds, as I said be

Re: The death of Hibernate?

Am 17.05.2012 23:08, schrieb Joe Zeff: > If you assume he's talking about his own specific needs, not the > general case, what he writes makes much more sense. uhm it is clear and logical for me that i speak about my needs and expierience in the last 10 years for who else could i? signature

Re: The death of Hibernate?

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:01:34PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> you did read the "a lot of services"? > >> disable them and you are around 8-10 seconds on F16 > > > > Then that's not a usable system is it? I'm not talking about the base > > boot speed but the boot speed with everything running

Re: The death of Hibernate?

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 02:08:43PM -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/17/2012 01:54 PM, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: > >Then that's not a usable system is it? I'm not talking about the base > >boot speed but the boot speed with everything running. I have none of the > >ones you list below running on my syst

Re: The death of Hibernate?

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Reindl Harald wrote: >> again: swap may be usefull if you have too few RAM >> on modern machines starting with 8-16 GB this is esotheric > > I agree. With the advent of x86_64 and dirt cheap RAM swap > files/partitions should be phased

Re: The death of Hibernate?

Reindl Harald wrote: >> Michael Cronenworth wrote: Actually I said what you are quoting. >> You are talking nonsense if by "modern" you mean "recent". >> >> My daughter just bought an Asus laptop (1015BX) with 1GB RAM installed, >> and a maximum 2GB RAM installable. > > here is the question wh

[389-users] Sync with active directory doubts

Hello, I have 2 389 DS servers a 6 AD servers and i read this on red hat documetation about windows replication: "There can only be a single sync agreement between the Directory Server environment and the Active Directory environment. Multiple sync agreements to the same Active Directory domain c

Re: The death of Hibernate?

Am 17.05.2012 23:22, schrieb Timothy Murphy: >>> I don't consider Fedora suitable for a server. >> >> your opinion > > and I suspect that of most people who have to make this choice. > >> if you need a recent software stack and have to >> compile all things at your won while libraries >> are ou

Re: [389-users] Sync with active directory doubts

On 5/17/2012 2:26 PM, Alberto Viana wrote: Hello, I have 2 389 DS servers a 6 AD servers and i read this on red hat documetation about windows replication: "There can only be a single sync agreement between the Directory Server environment and the Active Directory environment. Multiple sync

Re: The death of Hibernate?

On 17May2012 08:30, Dave Ihnat wrote: | It would make sense to offer the option to disable swap, hibernate, | standby, etc.; but don't remove it from the system. To do so is to say | *you* know better than *I* do how capable my hardware may be; that's | positively Microsoft- or Apple-ish. To be

Re: [389-users] Sync with active directory doubts

On 05/17/2012 03:35 PM, Patrick Morris wrote: On 5/17/2012 2:26 PM, Alberto Viana wrote: Hello, I have 2 389 DS servers a 6 AD servers and i read this on red hat documetation about windows replication: "There can only be a single sync agreement between the Directory Server environment and t

Re: The death of Hibernate?

On 17May2012 23:52, Steve Underwood wrote: | On 05/17/2012 11:15 PM, Tim wrote: | > On Thu, 2012-05-17 at 08:24 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: | >> Hibernate and suspend are no longer necessary or helpful functions | >> either (on machines sold today). | > I suspend on my Laptop, all the time.

Re: The death of Hibernate?

On 17May2012 11:33, Chris Adams wrote: | Windows 7 also has a nice thing that Linux does not: a hybrid mode | between suspend and hibernate. With that, when you suspend, it goes | through the hiberate steps (writing what it needs to disk), but then | puts the system into suspend. If the battery

Re: The death of Hibernate?

On 05/17/2012 02:13 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 17.05.2012 23:08, schrieb Joe Zeff: If you assume he's talking about his own specific needs, not the general case, what he writes makes much more sense. uhm it is clear and logical for me that i speak about my needs and expierience in the last

Re: The death of Hibernate?

On 17May2012 22:33, Reindl Harald wrote: | i said only suspned-to-disk is unuseable if you have | a modern machine with >= 16 GB RAM or a notebook with | 8 RAM and slow notebook-disks If all this happens _after_ I close the laptop lid I often don't care. Admittedly, I'm using a machine that sleep

Connecting HP PSC 1315 Printer to network

Hello, What is the correct way to install the HP PSC 1315 to a network? I purchased a Trendnet TE100-p1u Printer server USB output. I appreciate help I have tried few way but I am getting any where -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: nscd and DNS cache

On 05/15/2012 07:11 PM, JD wrote: I have nscd running. /etc/resolv.conf starts out with nameserver 127.0.0.1 If you're actually running a local caching name server (bind or dnsmasq), you don't need nscd. Running both is overkill. You're going to waste memory by having everything cached in

Re: nscd and DNS cache

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 05/15/2012 07:11 PM, JD wrote: >> >> I have nscd running. >> /etc/resolv.conf starts out with >> nameserver 127.0.0.1 > > > If you're actually running a local caching name server (bind or dnsmasq), > you don't need nscd.  Running both is

Re: nscd and DNS cache

On 05/17/2012 09:19 PM, JD wrote: That's excellent info. contradicts what other people have replied. I also meant to point out that if you select nscd rather than a local caching server, you don't need 127.0.0.1 in resolv.conf. glibc connects to nscd via a Unix socket rather than via IP. Th

Re: nscd and DNS cache

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 05/17/2012 09:19 PM, JD wrote: > >> That's excellent info. contradicts what other people have replied. >> > > I also meant to point out that if you select nscd rather than a local > caching server, you don't need 127.0.0.1 in resolv.conf

Re: nscd and DNS cache

On 05/18/2012 01:19 PM, JD wrote: > > > On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Gordon Messmer > wrote: > > On 05/17/2012 09:19 PM, JD wrote: > > That's excellent info. contradicts what other people have replied. > > > I also meant to point out that if you select

Re: nscd and DNS cache

On 05/18/2012 01:35 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > There should not be a configuration for that. If there is, then dnsmasq would > be > going against the recommendations of the DNS RFCs. The response to a DNS > request > includes a TTL (Time To Live). According to the RFC TTL which is the time > t

pidgin packages outdated

Hi all, Looks like Pidgin/libpurple package is behind the upstream lately, who should I ping about building a fresh one? Thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: