Re: [389-users] MMR issue

2012-08-07 Thread Reinhard Nappert
Has somebody seen this problem as well? -Reinhard From: 389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Reinhard Nappert Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 2:51 PM To: 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: [389-users] MMR issue Hi, I

Re: [389-users] MMR issue

2012-08-07 Thread Grzegorz Dwornicki
Hi I must say this ldap replication connections look quite unusual. Can you provide more information about: - type of replication servers? Some servers i guest are masters and some are maybe slaves? - Does errors occur when you try to initiate replication manually? Some errors suggests that

Re: [389-users] MMR issue

2012-08-07 Thread Reinhard Nappert
All of those servers are masters. This is a multi master environment. Your point of having a firewall in between the servers is a good one! I don't have any access to the deployment, though. It is worth it, to investigate. Thanks -Reinhard From: 389-users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Evolution can't work properly in Fedora 17.

2012-08-07 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 10:48 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: On 08/06/2012 07:36 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: I also find evolution 3.4.3 less stable then evolution use to be. My solution is to use the backup evolution data option under the file menu. I backup periodically, and when things degenerate I

Re: Fedora 17, Passenger, Postgresl and Apache

2012-08-07 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/06/2012 09:30 PM, Pete Stieber wrote: Have you tried setenforce 0 to see if the problem is SELinux relates? I take it, then, that you haven't been following the thread about Cargo Cult Sysadminning. Unless the OP's been receiving alerts, there's no particular reason to think that

Re: Fedora 17, Passenger, Postgresl and Apache

2012-08-07 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Aug 05, 2012 at 21:11:43 -0400, Felipe Nunez gato.pa...@gmail.com wrote: I am certainly sure that this list is not the adequate place to try to solve a problem I'm having with the tools Rails 3, Passenger, Postgresl and Apache when working in production environment in Fedora 17.

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Ian Malone
On 6 August 2012 21:53, Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote: On 08/06/2012 01:40 PM, Ian Malone wrote: Well, the thing is that SELinux often has effects that aren't particularly obvious. After upgrading to F15 I found I couldn't log in without disabling SELinux. At that point you can either try and

Re: boot: linux text = Could not find kernel image: linux

2012-08-07 Thread Ian Malone
On 6 August 2012 19:06, Dave Burns tbu...@hawaii.edu wrote: On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Ian Malone ibmal...@gmail.com wrote: On 6 August 2012 06:20, Richard Vickery richard.vicker...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Dave Burns tbu...@hawaii.edu wrote: On Sat, Aug 4, 2012

Re: boot: linux text = Could not find kernel image: linux

2012-08-07 Thread Suvayu Ali
Disclaimer: I'm no expert. On Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 08:58:31AM +0100, Ian Malone wrote: Still hoping someone who knows the difference between the live and installer discs will chip in here. The kernel image on the Live disk is vmlinuz0, but that doesn't boot the same way as the documentation

rpmfusion :: problems with nvidia packages?

2012-08-07 Thread Adrian Sevcenco
Hi! I try to update the nvidia drivers but i have some problems : -- Running transaction check --- Package akmod-nvidia.x86_64 1:295.59-1.fc16 will be updated --- Package akmod-nvidia.x86_64 1:304.32-2.fc16 will be an update -- Processing Dependency: nvidia-kmod-common = 1:304.32 for package:

Re: rpmfusion :: problems with nvidia packages?

2012-08-07 Thread Frank Murphy
On 07/08/12 09:44, Adrian Sevcenco wrote: and the problem persists.. is there a problem with packaging? Thanks! Adrian http://lists.rpmfusion.org/mailman/listinfo/rpmfusion-users -- Regards, Frank Jack of all, fubars -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or

Re: udisks2: Error updating SMART data

2012-08-07 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Aug 6 14:57, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 12:31:38PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: Hi, since upgrading to Fedora 17 I see messages like this in the log: udisksd[22965]: Error performing housekeeping for drive

Re: Fedora 17 Upgrade...FINALLY!

2012-08-07 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2012-08-05 at 00:38 -0400, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: Ok so FINALLY I've gone ahead and gotten my laptop upgraded to Fedora 17! But I now am trying to play .mp4 / .flv/ .avi movies on it and getting an error message telling me that there are plugins missing. I also get error

Re: failed f16 preupgrade, now stuck in grub2 rescue, can't exit

2012-08-07 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 09:24 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: If you include the update repo when you are finished with the update you will have installed the latest versions of all the software. ... as I'd already said. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private

Re: boot: linux text = Could not find kernel image: linux

2012-08-07 Thread Ian Malone
On 7 August 2012 09:40, Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: Disclaimer: I'm no expert. On Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 08:58:31AM +0100, Ian Malone wrote: Still hoping someone who knows the difference between the live and installer discs will chip in here. The kernel image on the Live disk

Re: Fedora 17 Upgrade...FINALLY!

2012-08-07 Thread Eddie O'Connor
I after with youand I take back all that I've said!...Fedora is to mePERFECT!...and I Will overlook any perceived shortcomings from now on On Aug 7, 2012 6:33 AM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: On Sun, 2012-08-05 at 00:38 -0400, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: Ok so FINALLY

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/06/2012 11:29 PM, jdow wrote: On 2012/08/06 19:17, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Disabling it because the system you are compiling the kernel for will not support the hardware. No need for SATA, PCI, or cardbus stuff on a system that only has

Re: boot: linux text = Could not find kernel image: linux

2012-08-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/07/2012 03:58 PM, Ian Malone wrote: Still hoping someone who knows the difference between the live and installer discs will chip in here. The kernel image on the Live disk is vmlinuz0, but that doesn't boot the same way as the documentation for the install disc one says. I can only guess

Re: Proposal request for ideas on naming Fedora releases.

2012-08-07 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Tuesday, 7. August 2012. 14.44.32 Tim wrote: On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 00:48 -0400, Doug wrote: Well, here's my 2¢: I think naming is dumb, *because* there is no logical sequence to it--the reader does not know whether the named version is current, last year's, or 2005's. The naming is in

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Tom Horsley
So here's one that always leaves me wondering: The #1 original admin advice that *ought* to be Cargo Cult except for the fact that it actually works quite often: reinstall the program. It is recommended far more often on Windows than on Linux, but I see folks say it on Linux as well, and the

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread John Aldrich
With respect to SELinux... I really have no idea whether it's currently enabled, enabled in permissive mode or disabled (I *think* it may be in permissive mode, but I wouldn't swear to it.) However, I got to thinking... it needs to be set up more like an antivirus program, i.e. smart

State of clang++ in Fedora

2012-08-07 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
What is the state of clang++ in Fedora 17 (or any other version)? I know that clang++ is currently broken in Fedora 17 but are there any ongoing efforts to make it operational? Is there a place (maybe some wiki?) where undergoing development of clang in Fedora could be monitored, besides regular

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 06.08.2012 22:38, Joe Zeff wrote: On 08/06/2012 01:29 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: On 06.08.2012 15:52, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Tim wrote: Just look at the feature list on the documentation, or websites, and the idiot admins will target them first. And, if you have a desktop that

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Dave Ihnat
Once, long ago--actually, on Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 09:29:49PM -0700--jdow (j...@earthlink.net) said: Then I discovered a property of Windows. If your motherboard goes bad and you can't replace it with an exact replacement the system and all other software installed on that disk are suddenly

Re: State of clang++ in Fedora

2012-08-07 Thread Rex Dieter
Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: What is the state of clang++ in Fedora 17 (or any other version)? I know that clang++ is currently broken in Fedora 17 but are there any ongoing efforts to make it operational? f17/clang++ is the only place where things are bad currently due to being stuck on

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 07 Aug 2012 14:14:27 +0200 Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: IPv6 is the future but as someone has already written in lot of cases it's not supported by routers and ISP's so having it enabled in your OS is pointless. I'll revers your argumentation - it doesn't add any value in such systems

Re: boot: linux text = Could not find kernel image: linux

2012-08-07 Thread Ian Malone
On 7 August 2012 12:33, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: On 08/07/2012 03:58 PM, Ian Malone wrote: Still hoping someone who knows the difference between the live and installer discs will chip in here. The kernel image on the Live disk is vmlinuz0, but that doesn't boot the same way as

Re: boot: linux text = Could not find kernel image: linux

2012-08-07 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/07/2012 08:23 AM, Ian Malone wrote: On 7 August 2012 12:33, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: On 08/07/2012 03:58 PM, Ian Malone wrote: Still hoping someone who knows the difference between the live and installer discs will chip in

Re: boot: linux text = Could not find kernel image: linux

2012-08-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/07/2012 09:23 PM, Ian Malone wrote: I could do, assuming I had both to hand. Can someone then explain why the 'linux' command to boot works (assuming the documentation is correct) on the install DVD, but not the Live DVD? So far as I can see that should be the name of the image that

Re: failed f16 preupgrade, now stuck in grub2 rescue, can't exit

2012-08-07 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 20:04 +0930, Tim wrote: On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 09:24 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: If you include the update repo when you are finished with the update you will have installed the latest versions of all the software. ... as I'd already said. You are right . You did say

Re: udisks2: Error updating SMART data

2012-08-07 Thread Richard Vickery
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 2:32 AM, Corinna Vinschen fed...@cygwin.de wrote: On Aug 6 14:57, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 12:31:38PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote: Hi, since upgrading to Fedora 17 I see messages like this in the log: udisksd[22965]: Error performing

Re: Evolution can't work properly in Fedora 17.

2012-08-07 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 01:48 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 10:48 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: On 08/06/2012 07:36 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: I also find evolution 3.4.3 less stable then evolution use to be. My solution is to use the backup evolution data option under the

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 08/07/2012 01:40 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: So here's one that always leaves me wondering: The #1 original admin advice that *ought* to be Cargo Cult except for the fact that it actually works quite often: reinstall the program. It is recommended far more often on Windows than on Linux, but

Re: Searching For.....

2012-08-07 Thread Lailah
Usually are the Fedora Ambassadors who have this kind of things like t-shirts and mugs. Where do you live? Lailah El dom, 05-08-2012 a las 16:50 -0400, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. escribió: Just another not-quite-so-stupid question: If I wanted Fedora Swag...(t-shirts, coffee mug, baseball cap

Re: F17 External Monitor on 945GM

2012-08-07 Thread Philippe LeCavalier
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:23 AM, Philippe LeCavalier supp...@plecavalier.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 4:46 PM, David G. Miller d...@davenjudy.orgwrote: Philippe LeCavalier support at plecavalier.com writes: On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Philippe LeCavalier support at

Re: Searching For.....

2012-08-07 Thread Jack Craig
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Lailah lailah...@gmail.com wrote: ** Usually are the Fedora Ambassadors who have this kind of things like t-shirts and mugs. Where do you live? Please post your results, I'd like a fedora t-shirt too! :) *Lailah* El dom, 05-08-2012 a las 16:50 -0400,

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread John Aldrich
Quoting Dave Ihnat dih...@dminet.com: Once, long ago--actually, on Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 09:29:49PM -0700--jdow (j...@earthlink.net) said: Then I discovered a property of Windows. If your motherboard goes bad and you can't replace it with an exact replacement the system and all other software

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Dave Ihnat
Once, long ago--actually, on Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 11:28:09AM -0400--John Aldrich (jmaldr...@yahoo.com) said: Yes...but if your Linux box is set up with a generic, modular kernel, chances are you won't have to re-install Linux, where, as you point out, with Windows, you'll have to do a repair

Re: boot: linux text = Could not find kernel image: linux

2012-08-07 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 11:44:31AM +0100, Ian Malone wrote: On 7 August 2012 09:40, Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: Disclaimer: I'm no expert. I do not think any Fedora Live media supports text mode install. It is designed to present you a working desktop and if you like

Re: Fedora 17 cannot boot on my pc...

2012-08-07 Thread Georgios Petasis
Στις 2/8/2012 14:28, ο/η Heinz Diehl έγραψε: On 02.08.2012, Georgios Petasis wrote: So, this is a processor bug? I would expect that Linux should detect these automatically... If I remember all correctly, there were two mainly independend issues with C1E in Linux, one which is

Fedora 17 boot problem -

2012-08-07 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
I've just installed F-17/64/XFCE on what was an F-16/64 computer. Initially everything worked as expected, it updated without a hitch. I was making my usual configuration changes, rebooted and now it stops just before the login screen. blank with just Can not open font file True

Re: Fedora 17 boot problem -

2012-08-07 Thread Mark C. Allman
On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 12:37 -0400, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: I've just installed F-17/64/XFCE on what was an F-16/64 computer. Initially everything worked as expected, it updated without a hitch. I was making my usual configuration changes, rebooted and now it

Re: resolv.conf ??

2012-08-07 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Aug 05, 2012 at 20:19:19 -0400, Jim binary...@comcast.net wrote: F17 How do I LOCK-IN namserver ijn resolv.conf so it cannot be changed by Fedora ? I run a local caching resolver on most of my machines, and I have found that it isn't hard to override the name server and search

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/07/2012 10:28 AM, John Aldrich wrote: Quoting Dave Ihnat dih...@dminet.com: Once, long ago--actually, on Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 09:29:49PM -0700--jdow (j...@earthlink.net) said: Then I discovered a property of Windows. If your motherboard

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 16:44 +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote: Reinstalling a program on Linux is almost always useless. If a rpm -V comes out clean, you will not get very far with a reinstall. On Windows it usually works because of poor handling of dependencies and DLL-hell (reinstalling forces

Re: Fedora 17 boot problem -

2012-08-07 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 07/08/12 12:48, Mark C. Allman types: On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 12:37 -0400, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: I've just installed F-17/64/XFCE on what was an F-16/64 computer. Initially everything worked as expected, it updated without a hitch. I was making my usual

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 07:54 -0400, John Aldrich wrote: With respect to SELinux... I really have no idea whether it's currently enabled, enabled in permissive mode or disabled (I *think* it may be in permissive mode, but I wouldn't swear to it.) However, I got to thinking... it needs to be

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 10:35 -0500, Dave Ihnat wrote: A generic Linux installation seems better at detecting hardware changes on the fly. Yes, noticing it, and correctly getting it to work, without you scrabbling around for driver discs, or files off the net. Windows doesn't really check for

Re: Fedora 17 boot problem -

2012-08-07 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/07/2012 11:07 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: Ok, that helped. I was surprised to find that I did have an error in my typing, had to use vi to fix and that is always a challenge for me. Still got the same error message. If you're uncomfortable with vi, you might

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread jdow
On 2012/08/07 04:29, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/06/2012 11:29 PM, jdow wrote: On 2012/08/06 19:17, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Disabling it because the system you are compiling the kernel for will not support the hardware. No need for SATA,

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread jdow
On 2012/08/07 04:40, Tom Horsley wrote: So here's one that always leaves me wondering: The #1 original admin advice that *ought* to be Cargo Cult except for the fact that it actually works quite often: reinstall the program. It is recommended far more often on Windows than on Linux, but I see

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread jdow
On 2012/08/07 05:22, Dave Ihnat wrote: Once, long ago--actually, on Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 09:29:49PM -0700--jdow (j...@earthlink.net) said: Then I discovered a property of Windows. If your motherboard goes bad and you can't replace it with an exact replacement the system and all other software

Re: Fedora 17 Upgrade...FINALLY!

2012-08-07 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 07:13 -0400, Eddie O'Connor wrote: I Will overlook any perceived shortcomings from now on I wouldn't go that far, just have a look into why it doesn't do something you thought it ought to. Perhaps it's a legal reason. Perhaps it conflicts with a goal of the distro.

Re: Fedora 17 boot problem -

2012-08-07 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 07/08/12 14:19, Joe Zeff types: On 08/07/2012 11:07 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: Ok, that helped. I was surprised to find that I did have an error in my typing, had to use vi to fix and that is always a challenge for me. Still got the same error message. If

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/07/2012 11:15 AM, Tim wrote: You've never had Windows notice that you've plugged in a new mouse, new hard drive, graphics card, et cetera, and seen it grunt through the new hardware detected routine, that often fails? Back when I was still dual-booting this box, I upgraded the video

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread jdow
On 2012/08/07 11:35, Joe Zeff wrote: On 08/07/2012 11:15 AM, Tim wrote: You've never had Windows notice that you've plugged in a new mouse, new hard drive, graphics card, et cetera, and seen it grunt through the new hardware detected routine, that often fails? Back when I was still

Re: Proposal request for ideas on naming Fedora releases.

2012-08-07 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 13:34 +0200, Marko Vojinovic wrote: giving a name to the particular release of a distro has a social/emotional character, like giving a name to a newborn child. It is only natural that developers are emotionally attached to their latest creation, and want to give it a

Re: Fedora 17 boot problem -

2012-08-07 Thread Timothy Davis
On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 12:48 -0400, Mark C. Allman wrote: On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 12:37 -0400, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: I've just installed F-17/64/XFCE on what was an F-16/64 computer. Initially everything worked as expected, it updated without a hitch. I was

Re: resolv.conf ??

2012-08-07 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 12:22 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: Doing this will probably break wifi connections that lock you down until you visit their captive web page when you authenticate and/or agree to a usage policy. And using your ISPs when they implement a similar approach (redirecting all

kernel.x86_64 3.5.0-2.fc17 question

2012-08-07 Thread Terry Polzin
Is this kernel, configured for kdump or do I have to roll my own? I can't seem to force a dump with the instructions I've found so far by just installing the kdump packages, configuring the /etc/kdump.conf file and starting the service before I try to force a dump -- users mailing list

Re: udisks2: Error updating SMART data

2012-08-07 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 07:34 -0700, Richard Vickery wrote: I wish someone would tell this to the thread I created called vmlinuz: the sadly no response is why I created the treads vmlinuz and one other; it is the realisation that these fine people who are having the problems might not get any

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/07/2012 01:19 PM, jdow wrote: On 2012/08/07 04:29, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/06/2012 11:29 PM, jdow wrote: On 2012/08/06 19:17, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Disabling it because the

Re: Fedora 17 boot problem -

2012-08-07 Thread Tim
Bob Goodwin: it's good to bite the bullet and struggle with vi once in a while. Yes, while it's handy to install convenient-to-use editors, it's good to be able to do at least the basic things that you might need to do with the already-installed-by-default editors, so you have a fighting chance

Re: Fedora 17 cannot boot on my pc...

2012-08-07 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2012-08-02 at 13:28 +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: The AMD people are generally cute ones Inquiring minds want to know... ;-) I've often heard arguments about how Intel hardware may be better than AMD, and vice versa, but this is the first I've heard about their staff being better looking.

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/07/2012 11:23 AM, jdow wrote: Repeating precisely the same actions and expecting different results is foolish, and getting different results is frightening. AIUI, constantly repeating the same actions and expecting different results is part of the original cargo cults, but in that case,

Re: Fedora 17 boot problem -

2012-08-07 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/07/2012 11:33 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: Will try that but I guess it's good to bite the bullet and struggle with vi once in a while. As long as I have a reference, a second computer/browser, for commands I can squeak by. *Shrug!* By the time I first

Re: Proposal request for ideas on naming Fedora releases.

2012-08-07 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/07/2012 11:45 AM, Tim wrote: I am not a number... ;-) (That'll probably go right over the heads of many list members.) Considering that I referenced it about a month or so ago, I hope not. BTW, I don't know why Number 6 objected so much considering

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread jdow
On 2012/08/07 12:09, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: On 08/07/2012 01:19 PM, jdow wrote: On 2012/08/07 04:29, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/06/2012 11:29 PM, jdow wrote: On 2012/08/06 19:17, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Disabling it because the

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/07/2012 12:09 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: You are not the only packrat when it comes to old disks. I still have a couple of 8 floppies yet, as well as some paper tape. I think I still have an 8 drive around here somewhere, and a controller to hook it to. If you do, and are thinking of

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Dave Ihnat
Once, long ago--actually, on Wed, Aug 08, 2012 at 03:45:07AM +0930--Tim (ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au) said: You've never had Windows notice that you've plugged in a new mouse, new hard drive, graphics card, et cetera, and seen it grunt through the new hardware detected routine, that often

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Dave Ihnat
Once, long ago--actually, on Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 11:35:35AM -0700--Joe Zeff (j...@zeff.us) said: Then I booted into Linux. It Just Worked. Again, to be fair, initial X configuration has been less than a joyous experience on many Linux distros. It's gotten better--much better--but is still

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/07/2012 01:05 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote: Once, long ago--actually, on Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 11:35:35AM -0700--Joe Zeff (j...@zeff.us) said: Then I booted into Linux. It Just Worked. Again, to be fair, initial X configuration has been less than a joyous experience on many Linux distros. It's

Re: kernel.x86_64 3.5.0-2.fc17 question

2012-08-07 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 07.08.2012, Terry Polzin wrote: Is this kernel, configured for kdump or do I have to roll my own? AS far as I know, the kernel side of kdump depends on kexec. The .config for your Fedora kernel lives in /boot: [htd@wildsau boot]$ cat config-3.5.0-2.fc17.x86_64 | grep -i kexec

Re: boot: linux text = Could not find kernel image: linux

2012-08-07 Thread Ian Malone
On 7 August 2012 16:49, Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 11:44:31AM +0100, Ian Malone wrote: On 7 August 2012 09:40, Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: Disclaimer: I'm no expert. I do not think any Fedora Live media supports text mode

Re: boot: linux text = Could not find kernel image: linux

2012-08-07 Thread Ian Malone
On 7 August 2012 15:17, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: On 08/07/2012 09:23 PM, Ian Malone wrote: I could do, assuming I had both to hand. Can someone then explain why the 'linux' command to boot works (assuming the documentation is correct) on the install DVD, but not the Live DVD?

bind-license package

2012-08-07 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
What is the purpose of mentioned package? Couldn't it be just a part of some bind related package? $ rpm --query --filesbypkg bind-license bind-license /usr/share/doc/bind-license-9.9.1 bind-license /usr/share/doc/bind-license-9.9.1/COPYRIGHT $ yum info bind-license ...

Re: bind-license package

2012-08-07 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 08 Aug 2012 00:04:50 +0200, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: What is the purpose of mentioned package? Couldn't it be just a part of some bind related package? $ rpm --query --filesbypkg bind-license bind-license /usr/share/doc/bind-license-9.9.1 bind-license

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/07/2012 03:22 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: I still remember when configuring X included selecting by hand the proper driver for your card, and how badly things would fsck themselves up if you had the wrong one. At the time, I was using a Virge S3

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/07/2012 02:55 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 08/07/2012 12:09 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: You are not the only packrat when it comes to old disks. I still have a couple of 8 floppies yet, as well as some paper tape. I think I still have an 8

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/07/2012 02:54 PM, jdow wrote: On 2012/08/07 12:09, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: On 08/07/2012 01:19 PM, jdow wrote: Removing PATA because I'll never use it leads to you discovering never is often not that far away. (PATA seems to still

Re: boot: linux text = Could not find kernel image: linux

2012-08-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/08/2012 05:43 AM, Ian Malone wrote: Funnily enough downloading a 3.6GB ISO to answer a simple question isn't normally my first response. Someone must know the answer. In any case if the images are the same as you say (you've done this yourself?) it's not going to tell me what the

Re: boot: linux text = Could not find kernel image: linux

2012-08-07 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/07/2012 06:17 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 08/08/2012 05:43 AM, Ian Malone wrote: Funnily enough downloading a 3.6GB ISO to answer a simple question isn't normally my first response. Someone must know the answer. In any case if the images are the

Re: Fedora 17 boot problem -

2012-08-07 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 07/08/12 14:49, Timothy Davis types: On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 12:48 -0400, Mark C. Allman wrote: On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 12:37 -0400, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: I've just installed F-17/64/XFCE on what was an F-16/64 computer. Initially everything worked as expected, it

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Dave Ihnat
Once, long ago--actually, on Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 01:22:45PM -0700--Joe Zeff (j...@zeff.us) said: On 08/07/2012 01:05 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote: I still remember when configuring X included selecting by hand the proper driver for your card, and how badly things would fsck themselves up if you had

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/07/2012 05:22 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote: You were lucky. I'm dead certain he didn't agree, but at least he shut up. It's a lot nastier when they really want to argue. If he'd tried arguing, I probably would have laughed at him. After all, I was the one using the card and I could point to

Re: Cargo Cult sysadmining

2012-08-07 Thread jdow
On 2012/08/07 17:41, Joe Zeff wrote: On 08/07/2012 05:22 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote: You were lucky. I'm dead certain he didn't agree, but at least he shut up. It's a lot nastier when they really want to argue. If he'd tried arguing, I probably would have laughed at him. After all, I was the one

Re: update from another machine

2012-08-07 Thread Patrick Dupre
Thank for the suggestion. However, the problem is that yum (on the fast host) check that the package for nstallation, update or reinstallation. So I did not find a way to down load on the fast host the package for another distribution, like a i686 from a host x86_64. Can I force yum to not

Re: Fedora 17, Passenger, Postgresl and Apache

2012-08-07 Thread Pete Stieber
On 08/06/2012 09:30 PM, PS = Pete Stieber wrote: PS Have you tried PS PS setenforce 0 PS PS to see if the problem is SELinux relates? On 8/6/2012 11:47 PM, JZ = Joe Zeff wrote: JZ I take it, then, that you haven't been JZ following the thread about Cargo Cult JZ Sysadminning. No I haven't. JZ

Re: Fedora 17, Passenger, Postgresl and Apache

2012-08-07 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/07/2012 06:46 PM, Pete Stieber wrote: If I temporarily disable selinux, this doesn't occur. Do you have the SELinux Troubleshooter daemon running? If not, activate it and see if you have any alerts. If so, the troubleshooter will probably tell you how to correct the issue. -- users

issue with yum distro-sync

2012-08-07 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, When I run yum distro-sync, I get: --- Package polkit.x86_64 0:0.103-1.fc16 will be erased -- Finished Dependency Resolution Error: Package: 1:libreoffice-core-3.4.5.2-15.fc16.x86_64 (updates) Requires: autocorr-en Removing: 1:autocorr-en-3.4.5.2-18.fc16.noarch

Re: udisks2: Error updating SMART data

2012-08-07 Thread Richard Vickery
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 07:34 -0700, Richard Vickery wrote: I wish someone would tell this to the thread I created called vmlinuz: the sadly no response is why I created the treads vmlinuz and one other; it is the

Re: Fedora 17, Passenger, Postgresl and Apache

2012-08-07 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 18:46:08 -0700, Pete Stieber pstie...@gmail.com wrote: Just to see if it is the cause of the problem. Once this is determined... I told you what it almost certainly was yesterday. httpd uses private tmp space by default and can't see the system /tmp where postgres

Re: Fedora 17, Passenger, Postgresl and Apache

2012-08-07 Thread Pete Stieber
On 08/07/2012 06:46 PM, PS = Pete Stieber wrote: PS If I temporarily disable selinux, this doesn't occur. On 8/7/2012 6:58 PM, JZ = Joe Zeff wrote: JZ Do you have the SELinux Troubleshooter daemon JZ running? If not, activate it and see if you JZ have any alerts. If so, the troubleshooter JZ