Re: nc missing option -z

2013-02-12 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/13/2013 10:51 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > tu 100 imap.gmail.com 993 && sync-my-email.sh Or, will less zeros tcping -t 1 imap.gmail.com 993:-) :-) -- Don't be bullied by the judgmental grammar and spelling police. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

Re: nc missing option -z

2013-02-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2013-02-13 at 14:40 +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote: > If I want to know if I have an internet connection I look for a > default > route in the output of "netstat -an", thus: > > netstat -rn | egrep '\''^(default|0\.0\.0\.0) +[1-9]'\'' >/dev/null netstat -an ... poc -- users mailing lis

Re: nc missing option -z

2013-02-12 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 13Feb2013 03:21, Suvayu Ali wrote: | I used to use netcat to check if a particular host is up or if I have | internet connection before I run a few scripts. [...] | Any ideas what happened to it? What can I use as replacement? If I want to know if I have an internet connection I look for a de

Re: nc missing option -z

2013-02-12 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/13/2013 10:21 AM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > Hi, > > I used to use netcat to check if a particular host is up or if I have > internet connection before I run a few scripts. I would use the -z > option in particular. But now I see that has been removed: > > $ nc -z imap.gmail.com 993 && sync-my-e

Frequent Gnome lock-ups since fresh F18 install

2013-02-12 Thread Digimer
Hi all, I had F17 and updated it last week to F18. It was perfectly stable and I had no problems with Gnome. I did a fresh install of F18 (fresh drive) on Sunday and since then Gnome 3 has locked up hard on me six times (three times just today). Each time, I can ctrl+alt+f2 into a termin

Re: nc missing option -z

2013-02-12 Thread inode0
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > Hi, > > I used to use netcat to check if a particular host is up or if I have > internet connection before I run a few scripts. I would use the -z > option in particular. But now I see that has been removed: > > $ nc -z imap.gmail.com 993 &&

nc missing option -z

2013-02-12 Thread Suvayu Ali
Hi, I used to use netcat to check if a particular host is up or if I have internet connection before I run a few scripts. I would use the -z option in particular. But now I see that has been removed: $ nc -z imap.gmail.com 993 && sync-my-email.sh ncat: invalid option -- 'z' Here is the exc

Re: Thunderbird newbie

2013-02-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 13.02.2013 01:17, schrieb Claude Jones: > On 02/12/2013 03:33 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: >>> Claude Jones wrote: >>> Perhaps it's a one-way street. I've done this many times. It's >>> possible that I originally created my first TBird install in Linux, >>> and copied that profile over to my Wind

Re: Thunderbird newbie

2013-02-12 Thread Claude Jones
On 02/12/2013 03:33 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: >> Claude Jones wrote: Perhaps it's a one-way street. I've done this many times. It's possible that I originally created my first TBird install in Linux, and copied that profile over to my Windows box, thus preserving the Linux case usage. That would

Re: External monitor of Thinkpad W530

2013-02-12 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:26:08PM +0100, Roberto Ragusa wrote: > On 02/12/2013 09:40 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 01:00:13PM +0100, Roberto Ragusa wrote: > >> > >> If you are interested search for: > >> "Re: nvidia optimus tricks (was: F16 - Adding a second video card)" > >> (

Re: Squirrelmail Not working after upgrade to Fedora 18

2013-02-12 Thread Jared K. Smith
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Paul Schwetz wrote: > The only error that I can find is in the httpd error log: > > [authz_core:error] [pid 19455] [client ::1:34474] AH01630: client denied by > server configuration: /usr/share/squirrelmail/scr > > however, I don't have a clue as to what that mean

Re: Terminal tabs, how to remove -

2013-02-12 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 12/02/13 16:26, Greg Woods wrote: That depends on your keyboard. On my keyboards, where CTRL is directly below SHIFT, it would in fact be fairly easy to accidentally also hit CTRL when I meant to type SHIFT-T (capital T). --Greg Yes, I can see that possibility but despite, or perhaps becaus

Re: Squirrelmail Not working after upgrade to Fedora 18

2013-02-12 Thread Paul Schwetz
Message: 10 Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 13:35:12 -0600 From: Steven Stern To: Community support for Fedora users Subject: Re: Squirrelmail Not Working after Upgrade to Fedora 18 Message-ID: <511a9970.90...@sterndata.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 02/12/2013 12:31 PM, Paul Schwetz

Re: Firewalld question -

2013-02-12 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 04:13:56PM -0500, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > Aha, it's already there in the Settings menu. I didn't notice that > before. Using it however is not very intuitive for me. That will > take some research. Please file any bugs you find, including documentation a

Re: Terminal tabs, how to remove -

2013-02-12 Thread Greg Woods
On Tue, 2013-02-12 at 14:17 -0500, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA > >If you hit the Ctrl+Shift+t key combination by accident, you can > >disable it under "Edit > Preferences > Shortcuts". > No, it seems highly improbable that I would ever hit that key > combination by accident. That d

Re: External monitor of Thinkpad W530

2013-02-12 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 02/12/2013 09:40 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 01:00:13PM +0100, Roberto Ragusa wrote: >> >> If you are interested search for: >> "Re: nvidia optimus tricks (was: F16 - Adding a second video card)" >> (24 July 2012) > > If you have the message id, it would save the OP some tim

Re: Firewalld question -

2013-02-12 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 12/02/13 16:03, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: For more control over firewalld: yum install firewall-config poc Aha, it's already there in the Settings menu. I didn't notice that before. Using it however is not very intuitive for me. That will take some research. Thanks, Bob -- http://www

Re: Howto install debuginfo?

2013-02-12 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 13:47:22 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: > $gdb > core corexxx > > Missing separate debuginfo for the main executable file > Try: yum --disablerepo='*' --enablerepo='*debug*' install > /usr/lib/debug/.build- > id/93/2a8124d5ac014eb54d2037a43dec951ea8939c > > > OK, let's try that:

Re: Firewalld question -

2013-02-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2013-02-12 at 15:59 -0500, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > I've been checking everything to determine why my calendar program > Tkremind would connect to one server but not the other in this F-18 > computer. The problem was only with Tkremind, Libreoffice, and Notecase > worke

Firewalld question -

2013-02-12 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
I've been checking everything to determine why my calendar program Tkremind would connect to one server but not the other in this F-18 computer. The problem was only with Tkremind, Libreoffice, and Notecase worked normally. I just did service firewalld status, stop, and start since I had onl

Re: External monitor of Thinkpad W530

2013-02-12 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 01:00:13PM +0100, Roberto Ragusa wrote: > > If you are interested search for: > "Re: nvidia optimus tricks (was: F16 - Adding a second video card)" > (24 July 2012) If you have the message id, it would save the OP some time searching by just going to http://mig.gmane.org/.

Re: Thunderbird newbie

2013-02-12 Thread Stephen Morris
On 02/06/2013 03:23 AM, Claude Jones wrote: On 02/04/2013 03:10 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: Copying over profiles and mail folders etc from windows to linux won't work as is. When folders are created in Tbird it records them in the case specified at creation time, and looks for them accordingly, b

Re: Fedora 18 - Disastrous experience

2013-02-12 Thread Bill Davidsen
Clemens Eisserer wrote: +1 I tried both, an upgrade of Fedora17 using fed-up as well as a fresh install. Beside the brain-dead installer, both times my system was severely unuseable. Considering the experience on even farily common hardware I probably won't give F18 another try and wait for F19,

Re: Squirrelmail Not Working after Upgrade to Fedora 18

2013-02-12 Thread Steven Stern
On 02/12/2013 12:31 PM, Paul Schwetz wrote: > After upgrading to fedora 18 from fedora 17 using fedup, my squirrelmail > is not working. Users are receiving a FORBIDDEN:You don't have > permission to access /webmail/src/login.php on this server. I have tried > reconfiguring httpd.conf every which f

Re: Terminal tabs, how to remove -

2013-02-12 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 12/02/13 14:01, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 03:53:43AM -0500, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: I was hoping I could simply stop the tabs from popping up. Not sure what I did to cause them, that requires further observation. In the mean time I can work with it as it is.

Re: Terminal tabs, how to remove -

2013-02-12 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 03:53:43AM -0500, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > > I was hoping I could simply stop the tabs from popping up. Not > sure what I did to cause them, that requires further > observation. In the mean time I can work with it as it is. Did you try what I suggested[1

Re: Howto install debuginfo?

2013-02-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.02.2013 19:47, schrieb Neal Becker: > $gdb > core corexxx > > Missing separate debuginfo for the main executable file > Try: yum --disablerepo='*' --enablerepo='*debug*' install > /usr/lib/debug/.build- > id/93/2a8124d5ac014eb54d2037a43dec951ea8939c > > > OK, let's try that: > > $ yum

Howto install debuginfo?

2013-02-12 Thread Neal Becker
$gdb core corexxx Missing separate debuginfo for the main executable file Try: yum --disablerepo='*' --enablerepo='*debug*' install /usr/lib/debug/.build- id/93/2a8124d5ac014eb54d2037a43dec951ea8939c OK, let's try that: $ yum blah blah... No package /usr/lib/debug/.build-id/93/2a8124d5ac014eb54

Re: cpuinfo, bogomips and duo core

2013-02-12 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 12.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote: > and since all the guests are sharing the same host CPU > it is unlikely that there are the same values over weeks > if there is something relieable meassured because in this > moment "boot time" is only for one of them while the others > in full production lo

Squirrelmail Not Working after Upgrade to Fedora 18

2013-02-12 Thread Paul Schwetz
After upgrading to fedora 18 from fedora 17 using fedup, my squirrelmail is not working. Users are receiving a FORBIDDEN:You don't have permission to access /webmail/src/login.php on this server. I have tried reconfiguring httpd.conf every which from Sunday, but no joy. Does anyone else have a

Re: cpuinfo, bogomips and duo core

2013-02-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.02.2013 19:19, schrieb Heinz Diehl: > On 12.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> 2 different virtual machines, same host > [] >> impossible that they have exactly the same loops per >> timeslice on a host with 20 guests and that each of >> their cores have the same is even more unlikely

Re: cpuinfo, bogomips and duo core

2013-02-12 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 12.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote: > 2 different virtual machines, same host [] > impossible that they have exactly the same loops per > timeslice on a host with 20 guests and that each of > their cores have the same is even more unlikely It's calculated at boot time, on the same host as yo

Re: Fedora 18 - Disastrous experience

2013-02-12 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 12/02/13 12:27, Clemens Eisserer wrote: +1 I tried both, an upgrade of Fedora17 using fed-up as well as a fresh install. Beside the brain-dead installer, both times my system was severely unuseable. Considering the experience on even farily common hardware I probably won't give F18 another tr

Re: cpuinfo, bogomips and duo core

2013-02-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.02.2013 18:33, schrieb Tom Horsley: > On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 17:37:06 +0100 > Reindl Harald wrote: > >> you can not do this because you can hardly deploy packages >> built this way on a i7-3770 (Ivy Bdrige) to a Xeon E5640 >> which is Westmere architecture without ending in "unknown >> CPU in

Re: cpuinfo, bogomips and duo core

2013-02-12 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 17:37:06 +0100 Reindl Harald wrote: > you can not do this because you can hardly deploy packages > built this way on a i7-3770 (Ivy Bdrige) to a Xeon E5640 > which is Westmere architecture without ending in "unknown > CPU instruction" and random crashes and in the worst case >

Re: Fedora 18 - Disastrous experience

2013-02-12 Thread Clemens Eisserer
+1 I tried both, an upgrade of Fedora17 using fed-up as well as a fresh install. Beside the brain-dead installer, both times my system was severely unuseable. Considering the experience on even farily common hardware I probably won't give F18 another try and wait for F19, hoping it will be F18-don

Re: cpuinfo, bogomips and duo core

2013-02-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.02.2013 17:31, schrieb Heinz Diehl: > On 12.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> -O3 -march=corei7 -mtune=corei7 -mmmx -msse2 -msse3 -msse4.1 -msse4.2 -maes >> -fopenmp -mfpmath=sse > > You can do that more easily by "-march=native" you can not do this because you can hardly deploy packa

Re: cpuinfo, bogomips and duo core

2013-02-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.02.2013 17:29, schrieb Heinz Diehl: > On 12.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> is it hardcoded in the CPU? > > No. > >> is it measured? > > Yes. See init/calibrate.c in your kernel source, it's calculated as > loops per timeslice. As far as I can see, it does no longer serve > any pur

Re: cpuinfo, bogomips and duo core

2013-02-12 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 12.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote: > -O3 -march=corei7 -mtune=corei7 -mmmx -msse2 -msse3 -msse4.1 -msse4.2 -maes > -fopenmp -mfpmath=sse You can do that more easily by "-march=native". -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://

Re: cpuinfo, bogomips and duo core

2013-02-12 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 12.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote: > is it hardcoded in the CPU? No. > is it measured? Yes. See init/calibrate.c in your kernel source, it's calculated as loops per timeslice. As far as I can see, it does no longer serve any purposes and is eventually kept because of historical reasons. --

Re: cpuinfo, bogomips and duo core

2013-02-12 Thread Gordan Bobic
On 12/02/2013 14:05, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 12.02.2013 14:37, schrieb Gordan Bobic: On 12/02/2013 13:24, Reindl Harald wrote: that just tells that you can disable a lot of services and overhead in a VM you would never do on bare metal and it tells that the hypervisor can schedule IO much mor

Re: cpuinfo, bogomips and duo core

2013-02-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.02.2013 14:37, schrieb Gordan Bobic: > So much experience, so little understanding... BTW: before you certify others little understanding fix your webserver config with "expose_php=0" and "ServerTokens Prod" Server: Apache/2.2.15 (Scientific Linux) X-Powered-By: PHP/5.3.3 signature.a

Re: cpuinfo, bogomips and duo core

2013-02-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.02.2013 14:37, schrieb Gordan Bobic: > On 12/02/2013 13:24, Reindl Harald wrote: >> that just tells that you can disable a lot of services >> and overhead in a VM you would never do on bare metal >> and it tells that the hypervisor can schedule IO much >> more efficient as a generic kernel

Re: cpuinfo, bogomips and duo core

2013-02-12 Thread Gordan Bobic
On 12/02/2013 13:24, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 12.02.2013 13:38, schrieb Gordan Bobic: -O3 -march=corei7 -mtune=corei7 -mmmx -msse2 -msse3 -msse4.1 -msse4.2 -maes -fopenmp -mfpmath=sse That just tells me you didn't push the machine to full saturation. Virtualization takes resources, and you

Re: cpuinfo, bogomips and duo core

2013-02-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.02.2013 13:38, schrieb Gordan Bobic: >> -O3 -march=corei7 -mtune=corei7 -mmmx -msse2 -msse3 -msse4.1 -msse4.2 -maes >> -fopenmp -mfpmath=sse > > That just tells me you didn't push the machine to full saturation. > > Virtualization takes resources, and you cannot go faster by adding overh

Re: cpuinfo, bogomips and duo core

2013-02-12 Thread Gordan Bobic
On 12/02/2013 12:17, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 12.02.2013 12:58, schrieb Gordan Bobic: On 12/02/2013 10:46, Reindl Harald wrote: means: you buy much better hardware with more and faster CPU's for a single device as you would buy for 20 machines and most of the day one or two guests can allocate

Re: cpuinfo, bogomips and duo core

2013-02-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.02.2013 12:58, schrieb Gordan Bobic: > On 12/02/2013 10:46, Reindl Harald wrote: >> means: >> you buy much better hardware with more and faster CPU's >> for a single device as you would buy for 20 machines >> and most of the day one or two guests can allocate >> most of the ressources on th

Re: External monitor of Thinkpad W530

2013-02-12 Thread Gordan Bobic
On 12/02/2013 12:00, Roberto Ragusa wrote: On 02/12/2013 11:22 AM, Gordan Bobic wrote: On 12/02/2013 09:42, Roberto Ragusa wrote: I worked out a solution (but it is not easy) where I drive the LCD with Intel and the external VGA with Nvidia. The secondary X server can be run and stopped indip

Re: External monitor of Thinkpad W530

2013-02-12 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 02/12/2013 11:22 AM, Gordan Bobic wrote: > On 12/02/2013 09:42, Roberto Ragusa wrote: >> I worked out a solution (but it is not easy) where I drive the LCD with Intel >> and the external VGA with Nvidia. >> The secondary X server can be run and stopped indipendently, it is actually >> a good se

Re: cpuinfo, bogomips and duo core

2013-02-12 Thread Gordan Bobic
On 12/02/2013 10:46, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 12.02.2013 11:01, schrieb Gordan Bobic: On 12/02/2013 00:42, Reindl Harald wrote: under real load the XEON is so much faster even with the virualization overhead which is small these days but still exists Small as in un-noticeable if your VMs are

Re: cpuinfo, bogomips and duo core

2013-02-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.02.2013 11:01, schrieb Gordan Bobic: > On 12/02/2013 00:42, Reindl Harald wrote: >> under real load the XEON is so much faster even >> with the virualization overhead which is small >> these days but still exists > > Small as in un-noticeable if your VMs are largely idling. Not that small

F17: samba + nautilus - can't do two things simultaneously

2013-02-12 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
I've just encountered some inconvenience when accessing samba share from nautilus. I have directories exported on my F17 box. From the same computer I tried to do two "actions" simultaneously in nautilus: display number of files and total size of one folder (with about 300GB and 400,000 files) and

Re: External monitor of Thinkpad W530

2013-02-12 Thread Rejy M Cyriac
On 02/12/2013 06:53 AM, Digimer wrote: > Hi all, > > Has anyone gotten an external monitor working on a Thinkpad W530 (or > similar, T530, etc) laptop? I've got Fedora 18 x86_64 running integrated > graphics only (I tried getting optimus to work but got tired and banging > my head on the wall).

Re: External monitor of Thinkpad W530

2013-02-12 Thread Gordan Bobic
On 12/02/2013 09:42, Roberto Ragusa wrote: On 02/12/2013 02:23 AM, Digimer wrote: Hi all, Has anyone gotten an external monitor working on a Thinkpad W530 (or similar, T530, etc) laptop? I've got Fedora 18 x86_64 running integrated graphics only (I tried getting optimus to work but got tir

Re: Terminal tabs, how to remove -

2013-02-12 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 02/11/2013 04:04 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: Can the tab function be removed or disabled in the F-18 XFCE terminal? I don't see anything in the Preferences and I would prefer it wasn't there. Doesn

Re: cpuinfo, bogomips and duo core

2013-02-12 Thread Gordan Bobic
On 12/02/2013 00:42, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 12.02.2013 01:17, schrieb Robert Moskowitz: On 02/11/2013 06:07 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 11.02.2013 23:43, schrieb Robert Moskowitz: Do I have this right? since on a duo core system, /proc/cpuinfo reports both cores and a bogomips number fo

Re: cpuinfo, bogomips and duo core

2013-02-12 Thread Gordan Bobic
On 11/02/2013 23:07, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 11.02.2013 23:43, schrieb Robert Moskowitz: Do I have this right? since on a duo core system, /proc/cpuinfo reports both cores and a bogomips number for each, that number is the value for a core. Thus 'in theory' the bogomips for the unit is the

Re: External monitor of Thinkpad W530

2013-02-12 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 02/12/2013 02:23 AM, Digimer wrote: > Hi all, > > Has anyone gotten an external monitor working on a Thinkpad W530 (or > similar, T530, etc) laptop? I've got Fedora 18 x86_64 running integrated > graphics only (I tried getting optimus to work but got tired and banging my > head on the wall