at boot-time echoed kernel is older that started kernel

2013-02-17 Thread antonio montagnani
It is not really important, but I realized that when I start the machine with a kernel, the echoed line on the screen reports the previous kernel. Any idea?? This is part of the grub configuration file where you can see that the first menu entry reports a previous kernel in the echo line (but

Re: copy full system from old disk to a new one

2013-02-17 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 17.02.2013, Martín Marqués wrote: How can I pass my whole system from an old SATA disk (which is giving me some trouble) to a new disk. [] I'm a bit concerned about the root file system, how to change grub, and if I'll have trouble with non-regular files from /var. You can do that

Re: Freeze failures with F18

2013-02-17 Thread William Murray
On 13/02/13 11:43, William Murray wrote: Dear all, F18 has been going well for me, but freezing my laptop stopped working 3 days ago. Looking at my logs, the only rpm change on the 10th of Feb was installing ecj - I guess it is unrelated. Anyway, from my first suspend on the 11th I

Re: at boot-time echoed kernel is older that started kernel

2013-02-17 Thread Joachim Backes
On 02/17/2013 09:23 AM, antonio montagnani wrote: It is not really important, but I realized that when I start the machine with a kernel, the echoed line on the screen reports the previous kernel. Any idea?? This is part of the grub configuration file where you can see that the first menu

Re: at boot-time echoed kernel is older that started kernel

2013-02-17 Thread antonio montagnani
Joachim Backes ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 17/02/2013 10:33: On 02/17/2013 09:23 AM, antonio montagnani wrote: It is not really important, but I realized that when I start the machine with a kernel, the echoed line on the screen reports the previous kernel. Any idea?? This

Re: Custom Partition Fedora 18

2013-02-17 Thread Gordan Bobic
On 02/16/2013 01:32 PM, jonc wrote: I also believe one reason they've reduced the feature set in Gnome 3 is to reduce future maintenance demands. After all, it's not like they number in the hundreds. Maintenance requirement was also the reason cited for removing custom partitioning features

Re: Google Earth runs for all users except me

2013-02-17 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 02/16/2013 08:37 AM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: So it looks like I'll have to follow Mark LaPierre's advice to clean out my home directory and then restore configuration files one by one till bad things happen. One by one? No, you make some copies of your home directory: one not working (your

Re: Custom Partition Fedora 18

2013-02-17 Thread jonc
On 02/17/2013 06:35 AM, Gordan Bobic wrote: Funny you should say that. I am a refugee to KDE on non-RAM-limited machines specifically because I found Gnome 3 so utterly unusable when I first saw it that I cannot imagine myself ever trying it again. And I use XFCE on my ARM machines with

f17, kernel 3.7.x does not work w/ Seymour [AMD Radeon HD 6470M]

2013-02-17 Thread Maurizio Marini
Hello here is an Asus X73B w/ Seymour [AMD Radeon HD 6470M] When I boot with last kernel 3.7: Feb 17 00:33:46 tikal kernel: [0.00] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-3.7.6-102.fc17.x86_64 root=/dev/mapper/vg_tikal-lv_root ro rd.md=0 rd.dm=0 rd.lvm.lv=vg_tikal/lv_swap SYSFONT=True

Re: f17, kernel 3.7.x does not work w/ Seymour [AMD Radeon HD 6470M]

2013-02-17 Thread Mark LaPierre
On 02/17/2013 09:49 AM, Maurizio Marini wrote: Hello here is an Asus X73B w/ Seymour [AMD Radeon HD 6470M] When I boot with last kernel 3.7: Feb 17 00:33:46 tikal kernel: [0.00] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-3.7.6-102.fc17.x86_64 root=/dev/mapper/vg_tikal-lv_root ro rd.md=0

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2013-02-17 Thread Noah Cutler
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RE: copy full system from old disk to a new one

2013-02-17 Thread Greg Scott
The rsync approach Heinz suggests also has the advantage that you can change the size of your new partitions in the target system. The other block copying approaches would need either identically sized partitions or physical disks. - Greg -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org

RE: What does mapping=identity mean in /etc/exports?

2013-02-17 Thread Greg Scott
Any takers on this? thanks - Greg -Original Message- From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Greg Scott Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 3:10 PM To: 'users@lists.fedoraproject.org' Subject: What does mapping=identity

sudo troubles

2013-02-17 Thread Scott van Looy
Hi, I have some odd issues with sudo, specifically trying to execute a command without being asked my password: I've created a new file in /etc/sudoers.d/ called node In that file is: scott ALL=(root) NOPASSWD:NOEXEC: /usr/local/bin/forever I was expecting I'd now be able to execute forever and

Re: f17, kernel 3.7.x does not work w/ Seymour [AMD Radeon HD 6470M]

2013-02-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.02.2013 16:16, schrieb Mark LaPierre: On 02/17/2013 09:49 AM, Maurizio Marini wrote: Feb 16 22:38:50 tikal kernel: [ 78.004117] radeon :01:00.0: couldn't schedule ib Feb 16 22:38:50 tikal kernel: [ 78.004137] [drm:radeon_cs_ib_chunk] *ERROR* Failed to schedule IB ! This

Re: [SOLVED] sudo troubles

2013-02-17 Thread Scott van Looy
On 17 Feb 2013, at 17:23, Scott van Looy sc...@ethosuk.net wrote: Hi, I have some odd issues with sudo, specifically trying to execute a command without being asked my password: I've created a new file in /etc/sudoers.d/ called node In that file is: scott ALL=(root) NOPASSWD:NOEXEC:

Re: Custom Partition Fedora 18

2013-02-17 Thread Gordan Bobic
On 02/17/2013 01:22 PM, jonc wrote: On 02/17/2013 06:35 AM, Gordan Bobic wrote: Funny you should say that. I am a refugee to KDE on non-RAM-limited machines specifically because I found Gnome 3 so utterly unusable when I first saw it that I cannot imagine myself ever trying it again. And I use

Fedora 18, Gnome 3, and the future of Compiz

2013-02-17 Thread Noah Cutler
Hey all, first post. Just installed Fedora 18 on a new Dell Precision series laptop. Gnome 3 looks gorgeous -- was on the fence for quite awhile with Fedora 14 due to the backlash Gnome 3 received post-launch. In regard to approximating a Gnome-Do/Compiz setup: 1) how is the multi-monitor

Re: Fedora 18, Gnome 3, and the future of Compiz

2013-02-17 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Noah Cutler sit1...@gmail.com wrote: 1) how is the multi-monitor support? Remember reading there was an issue where laptop screen was pinned (i.e. could not switch between virtual workspaces) or other non-desirable behavior. That problem appears to be

Kernel 3.7.x Breaks Video Display

2013-02-17 Thread David Dembrow
Fedora 17 wants to upgrade the kernel (currently 3.6.11-5) to 3.7.x and when I do my dual head display comes up with a single head and a video display that is completely useless - colors are psychedelic and text illegible. I think I have an nVidia card (fedora 17 did not want to play with a

Re: Kernel 3.7.x Breaks Video Display

2013-02-17 Thread Mark LaPierre
On 02/17/2013 01:23 PM, David Dembrow wrote: Fedora 17 wants to upgrade the kernel (currently 3.6.11-5) to 3.7.x and when I do my dual head display comes up with a single head and a video display that is completely useless - colors are psychedelic and text illegible. I think I have an nVidia

Re: 24 hour time -

2013-02-17 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/16/2013 06:55 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: About the only problem I see is a few menu label misspellings like colour [spell checker wants to fix this gross misspelling]! Everything else seems correct. And in my scheme of things having 24 hour time takes priority. What

Re: Runlevel 3 after fedup

2013-02-17 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/16/2013 03:53 PM, el...@spinics.net wrote: After beating my head against the wall I finally tried booting to runlevel 5 instead of 3. That fixed the issue. But booting to runlevel 3 and switching to 5 doesn't work. Are you normally in the habit of booting that way, or was this something

Re: copy full system from old disk to a new one

2013-02-17 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 02/17/2013 03:30 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 17.02.2013, Martín Marqués wrote: How can I pass my whole system from an old SATA disk (which is giving me some trouble) to a new disk. [] I'm a bit concerned about the root file system, how to change grub, and if I'll have trouble with

Re: copy full system from old disk to a new one

2013-02-17 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/16/2013 04:36 PM, doug wrote: There is a Linux program called Clonezilla which is supposed to be able to clone disks. I've used it several times across the years with excellent results. Not only can it clone a disk, it can also expand partitions on the fly if the new disk is bigger

Re: copy full system from old disk to a new one

2013-02-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.02.2013 20:59, schrieb Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.: On 02/17/2013 03:30 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 17.02.2013, Martín Marqués wrote: How can I pass my whole system from an old SATA disk (which is giving me some trouble) to a new disk. [] I'm a bit concerned about the root file system,

Re: 24 hour time -

2013-02-17 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 17/02/13 14:46, Joe Zeff wrote: What gross misspelling? Colour is perfectly correct in British English, even though it isn't in American English. Maybe you need to check to see which form of English your box is set for. You're not following the thread Joe, I set the locale to en_GB. I

Re: Fedora 18, Gnome 3, and the future of Compiz

2013-02-17 Thread Noah Cutler
Thanks for the cheat sheet, Rahul, useful. Almost there as far as Compiz goes -- if we could snap to grid with key bindings, that would be ideal. Using the mouse for these kinds of tasks is, IMO, not ideal, but I guess Gnome 3 is catering to the mobile/tablet user as well. I'll play around with

Re: Custom Partition Fedora 18

2013-02-17 Thread jonc
On 02/17/2013 12:38 PM, Gordan Bobic wrote: I believe there is, in fact, a way to reasonably reliably gauge broader opinion. While Fedora doesn't seem to have the sort of a community that is prepared to fork or repackage the distribution at a moment's displeasure, Ubuntu does, and there are

Re: 24 hour time -

2013-02-17 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/17/2013 12:10 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: You're not following the thread Joe, I set the locale to en_GB. I was just needling Tim about the English spelling, don't often have that opportunity. I'm at a convention, Bob, and haven't seen any email since Friday evening.

Re: 24 hour time -

2013-02-17 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 17/02/13 15:25, Joe Zeff wrote: I'm at a convention, Bob, and haven't seen any email since Friday evening. Details such as that tend to get forgotten when you have real life issues to deal with. (I'm not just attending Gallifrey One, I'm part of the staff for Handicapped Services, which

Re: Custom Partition Fedora 18

2013-02-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.02.2013 21:22, schrieb jonc: On 02/17/2013 12:38 PM, Gordan Bobic wrote: I believe there is, in fact, a way to reasonably reliably gauge broader opinion. While Fedora doesn't seem to have the sort of a community that is prepared to fork or repackage the distribution at a moment's

Re: copy full system from old disk to a new one

2013-02-17 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 17.02.2013, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: Just curious, will this apply to moving /_everything _/over from a smaller drive to a bigger one?...likesay from a 320GB SATA HDD to a 500GB SATA HDD?will the OS automatically be able to identify and recognize the free space on the new

Re: copy full system from old disk to a new one

2013-02-17 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 17.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote: if wouldn't do this and stick with dd / disk images and use gparted to resize partitions because if i clone machines i want to have all UUID's the same You can easily change/tailor your UUIDs with tools like tune2fs, xfs_admin etc.. The dd approach has a

Re: Custom Partition Fedora 18

2013-02-17 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 02/17/2013 08:22 AM, jonc wrote: On 02/17/2013 06:35 AM, Gordan Bobic wrote: Funny you should say that. I am a refugee to KDE on non-RAM-limited machines specifically because I found Gnome 3 so utterly unusable when I first saw it that I cannot imagine myself ever trying it again. And I

Re:

2013-02-17 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 02/17/2013 10:18 AM, Noah Cutler wrote: sit1...@gmail.com mailto:sit1...@gmail.com I don't get it. EGO II -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines:

Re: copy full system from old disk to a new one

2013-02-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.02.2013 22:03, schrieb Heinz Diehl: On 17.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote: if wouldn't do this and stick with dd / disk images and use gparted to resize partitions because if i clone machines i want to have all UUID's the same You can easily change/tailor your UUIDs with tools like

Re:

2013-02-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.02.2013 22:10, schrieb Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.: On 02/17/2013 10:18 AM, Noah Cutler wrote: sit1...@gmail.com mailto:sit1...@gmail.com I don't get it i requested OFFLIST what sense this should make he did read to post to the list send your email to users@lists.fedoraproject.org and

Re: Runlevel 3 after fedup

2013-02-17 Thread ellis
Do you get a login prompt if you switch VTs from graphical mode (e.g. CTRL+ALT+F[2-6])? Yes. What is the output of: systemctl show default.target Id=multi-user.target Names=default.target runlevel2.target multi-user.target runlevel4.target runlevel3.target Requires=basic.target

Re: Runlevel 3 after fedup

2013-02-17 Thread ellis
Are you normally in the habit of booting that way, or was this something special you were doing after the upgrade? Yes, I always boot into runlevel 3. If nothing else, it allows me to deal with X driver problems. -- http://yosemitenews.info/ -- users mailing list

Re: copy full system from old disk to a new one

2013-02-17 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 02/17/2013 03:04 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 17.02.2013 20:59, schrieb Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.: On 02/17/2013 03:30 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 17.02.2013, Martín Marqués wrote: How can I pass my whole system from an old SATA disk (which is giving me some trouble) to a new disk. [] I'm

Re: Custom Partition Fedora 18

2013-02-17 Thread Gordan Bobic
On 02/17/2013 09:09 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: As far as I'm concerned I love Gnome 3.x!..I figure this is WAY better than the horrible interface from Windows Vista! You do realize that saying it's better than Vista isn't exactly a glowing endorsment, right? Gordan -- users

Re:

2013-02-17 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 02/17/2013 04:15 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 17.02.2013 22:10, schrieb Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.: On 02/17/2013 10:18 AM, Noah Cutler wrote: sit1...@gmail.com mailto:sit1...@gmail.com I don't get it i requested OFFLIST what sense this should make he did read to post to the list send your

Re: Runlevel 3 after fedup

2013-02-17 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
Oops, I seem to have misread the original post. I was under the impression that you weren't getting a login prompt at all, but upon rereading I see you said: After upgrade from 17 to 18 with fedup and installing all the updates I was unable to login as any user other than root. When I tried I

Re: Custom Partition Fedora 18

2013-02-17 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 02/17/2013 04:27 PM, Gordan Bobic wrote: On 02/17/2013 09:09 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: As far as I'm concerned I love Gnome 3.x!..I figure this is WAY better than the horrible interface from Windows Vista! You do realize that saying it's better than Vista isn't exactly a

Re: Runlevel 3 after fedup

2013-02-17 Thread ellis
So you get a normal login prompt, just nobody else but root can login? That's probably not systemd. I suspect there's a flag that gets set somewhere when the boot scripts finsih running. Just don't know where it is or what sets it. Okay that looks good. Does

Re: Custom Partition Fedora 18

2013-02-17 Thread jonc
On 02/17/2013 03:50 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Fedora offers 9 versions http://spins.fedoraproject.org/ in addition to the mainline release, including KDE, XFCE, and LXDE. That's in addition to the availability of MATE and Cinnamon in the mainline release. these are not really 9 versions a

Re: Custom Partition Fedora 18

2013-02-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.02.2013 22:35, schrieb jonc: It's my understanding that Fedora's primary role is to evaluate and explore software for Red Hat, not necessarily to produce a stable consumer-level product. That's very much Ubuntu's mission, but it isn't Fedora's. I expect Ubuntu not to break. I

Re: Runlevel 3 after fedup

2013-02-17 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 2:32 PM, el...@spinics.net wrote: So you get a normal login prompt, just nobody else but root can login? That's probably not systemd. I suspect there's a flag that gets set somewhere when the boot scripts finsih running. Just don't know where it is or what sets it.

Re: Runlevel 3 after fedup

2013-02-17 Thread ellis
I assume you can login as a normal user on a VT from graphical mode? Yes, if I come up as runlevel 5 logins work as they should on both graphical and vt screens. systemd auto-spawns VTs on-demand so they're started a little differently. If that's working, the only thing I can think of is

Re: Custom Partition Fedora 18

2013-02-17 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 16:35:00 -0500 jonc j...@downfromthetrees.com wrote: big snip It's my understanding that Fedora's primary role is to evaluate and explore software for Red Hat, not necessarily to produce a stable consumer-level product. That's very much Ubuntu's mission, but it isn't

Re: Custom Partition Fedora 18

2013-02-17 Thread jonc
On 02/17/2013 04:39 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 17.02.2013 22:35, schrieb jonc: It's my understanding that Fedora's primary role is to evaluate and explore software for Red Hat, not necessarily to produce a stable consumer-level product. That's very much Ubuntu's mission, but it isn't

Re: Custom Partition Fedora 18

2013-02-17 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 02/17/2013 05:22 PM, jonc wrote: On 02/17/2013 04:39 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 17.02.2013 22:35, schrieb jonc: It's my understanding that Fedora's primary role is to evaluate and explore software for Red Hat, not necessarily to produce a stable consumer-level product. That's very much

Re: Custom Partition Fedora 18

2013-02-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.02.2013 23:27, schrieb Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.: Judging by your last statement am I to assume that CentOS is more reliable than Fedora?... you know hat RHEL is? http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing

Re: Custom Partition Fedora 18

2013-02-17 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 02/17/2013 05:33 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 17.02.2013 23:27, schrieb Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.: Judging by your last statement am I to assume that CentOS is more reliable than Fedora?... you know hat RHEL is? http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux I knew about Red Hat and

Re: Custom Partition Fedora 18

2013-02-17 Thread jonc
On 02/17/2013 05:27 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: Judging by your last statement am I to assume that CentOS is more reliable than Fedora?... EGO II I've had a few abrt messages and two instances of Gnome-Shell locking up in this F18 installation, which began as a Release Candidate 2

Re: Custom Partition Fedora 18

2013-02-17 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 02/17/2013 05:57 PM, jonc wrote: On 02/17/2013 05:27 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: Judging by your last statement am I to assume that CentOS is more reliable than Fedora?... EGO II I've had a few abrt messages and two instances of Gnome-Shell locking up in this F18 installation,

Re: Custom Partition Fedora 18

2013-02-17 Thread Gordan Bobic
On 02/17/2013 10:27 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: On 02/17/2013 05:22 PM, jonc wrote: On 02/17/2013 04:39 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 17.02.2013 22:35, schrieb jonc: It's my understanding that Fedora's primary role is to evaluate and explore software for Red Hat, not necessarily to

Re: Custom Partition Fedora 18

2013-02-17 Thread Gordan Bobic
On 02/17/2013 10:51 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: On 02/17/2013 05:33 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 17.02.2013 23:27, schrieb Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.: Judging by your last statement am I to assume that CentOS is more reliable than Fedora?... you know hat RHEL is?

Re: Runlevel 3 after fedup

2013-02-17 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/17/2013 01:20 PM, el...@spinics.net wrote: Yes, I always boot into runlevel 3. If nothing else, it allows me to deal with X driver problems. OK, thanx. Knowing that removes some possibilities. And, out of simple curiosity, do you ever have X driver issues if there's not been a kernel

DVDs won't play

2013-02-17 Thread Temlakos
Four days ago I ran the fedora-update script to move from F17 to F18. Everything seems to work, except one thing: applications like vlc and Dragon, that I used to play DVD movies, won't open the disks. Whether they are commercial disks or the ones I prepared myself, makes no difference: the

Re: DVDs won't play

2013-02-17 Thread Jim
On 02/17/2013 07:41 PM, Temlakos wrote: Four days ago I ran the fedora-update script to move from F17 to F18. Everything seems to work, except one thing: applications like vlc and Dragon, that I used to play DVD movies, won't open the disks. Whether they are commercial disks or the ones I

Re: Custom Partition Fedora 18

2013-02-17 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 02/17/2013 06:30 PM, Gordan Bobic wrote: On 02/17/2013 10:51 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: On 02/17/2013 05:33 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 17.02.2013 23:27, schrieb Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.: Judging by your last statement am I to assume that CentOS is more reliable than Fedora?... you

Re: Custom Partition Fedora 18

2013-02-17 Thread jonc
On 02/17/2013 08:35 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: Yes, CentOS, Scientific Linux and Oracle's Linux are all essentially EL recompiled and rebadged. Gordan Do they all feed from the same repositories? EGO II No. Each distribution maintains its own repositories. In most cases, the

Re: copy full system from old disk to a new one

2013-02-17 Thread Jatin K
On Sunday 17 February 2013 05:23 AM, Martín Marqués wrote: How can I pass my whole system from an old SATA disk (which is giving me some trouble) to a new disk. I have 4 partitions, all of which I have only passed /home using cp -.a I'm a bit concerned about the root file system, how to change

Fedora 18 with ATI Mach64?

2013-02-17 Thread Michael D. Setzer II
Trying to install Fedora 18 on an older motherboard that has video built-in using an ATI Mach64. Install seemed to go thru fine, and login screen is fine, but then after logging in I got the top bar and side ICONs seem to work fine, but if background image seems to be half width, and