Re: Youtube Videos Don't Play in Fedora

2022-12-12 Thread Stephen Morris
On 9/12/22 23:37, John Pilkington wrote: You have repeated many times that removing pulseaudio would remove gnome-shell. Suggested workarounds have been  'rpm -e --nodeps pulseaudio' followed by 'dnf install pipewire' and the perhaps more mainstream  'dnf swap pipewire pulseaudio  --allowera

Re: Youtube Videos Don't Play in Fedora

2022-12-12 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 12/9/22 04:37, John Pilkington wrote: You have repeated many times that removing pulseaudio would remove gnome-shell. Suggested workarounds have been  'rpm -e --nodeps pulseaudio' followed by 'dnf install pipewire' This is never a good idea and should never be needed. If it isn't worki

Re: Youtube Videos Don't Play in Fedora

2022-12-12 Thread Stephen Morris
On 10/12/22 07:39, Tim via users wrote: Stephen Morris: Pipewire doesn't work. It was videos not playing without audio muted that started this thread. And from what I've seen on the net there is potentially a lot of manual configuration required to get pipewire to work, so my view on what I'm se

Re: Youtube Videos Don't Play in Fedora

2022-12-12 Thread Stephen Morris
On 12/12/22 19:18, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/9/22 04:37, John Pilkington wrote: You have repeated many times that removing pulseaudio would remove gnome-shell. Suggested workarounds have been   'rpm -e --nodeps pulseaudio' followed by 'dnf install pipewire' This is never a good idea and shou

Re: Youtube Videos Don't Play in Fedora

2022-12-12 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 12/12/22 01:20, Stephen Morris wrote: On 12/12/22 19:18, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/9/22 04:37, John Pilkington wrote: You have repeated many times that removing pulseaudio would remove gnome-shell. Suggested workarounds have been   'rpm -e --nodeps pulseaudio' followed by 'dnf install pipe

Re: Dongle not talking again

2022-12-12 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> Odd that it's kernel reboots only. I wonder if there's some timing >> issue that's different then? Tom Horsley: > My best theory is that the kernel doesn't properly reset the device > from scratch, but assumes it was left in some state which the old > kernel didn't leave it in. But that's

Re: Youtube Videos Don't Play in Fedora

2022-12-12 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2022-12-12 at 20:01 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: > I'm running with KDE and Gnome and when I issued those two command in > F37 I got a similar display. There are a few pulseaudio packages that > aren't installed, but if pulseaudio is deprecated it's not work > installing them. > > [Steve@f

Re: virt-sparsify ?

2022-12-12 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/9/22 08:28, ToddAndMargo wrote: Any downside to ths tool? https://libguestfs.org/virt-sparsify.1.html Yes, BIG, BIG downside! dump/restore can not restore the fiel correctly. dump restores a qcows drive as a blank drive https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2152393

How do you unsparsify a qcows2 file?

2022-12-12 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi All, Anyone know how to unsparsify a qcows2 file? https://libguestfs.org/virt-sparsify.1.html Many thanks, -T ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of

Re: chrome hangs

2022-12-12 Thread Geoffrey Leach
I did visit that page. Alas, not much help. I needed to reinstall F37. First thing I did was to install chrome from rps. Working fine now. On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 9:38 PM Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 5:26 PM Patrick O'Callaghan > wrote: > > > > On Sun, 2022-12-11 at 13:34 -08

Re: Dongle not talking again

2022-12-12 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 12 Dec 2022 20:42:44 +1030 Tim via users wrote: > Do you have any AKmods installed? If it's rebuilding something when a > new kernel boots, versus romping straight into it at other times, that > might explain a timing difference. I always let the akmods finish building before I reboot, a

Re: How do you unsparsify a qcows2 file?

2022-12-12 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 12 Dec 2022 04:57:08 -0800 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Anyone know how to unsparsify a qcows2 file? Boot up the virtual machine and write zeroes to a temp file on that disk till you get out of space errors is one way. Basically stop after the first step of sparsifying :-). ___

Re: How do you unsparsify a qcows2 file?

2022-12-12 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 12/12/22 06:25, Tom Horsley wrote: On Mon, 12 Dec 2022 04:57:08 -0800 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Anyone know how to unsparsify a qcows2 file? Boot up the virtual machine and write zeroes to a temp file on that disk till you get out of space errors is one way. Basically stop after the fi

Re: How do you unsparsify a qcows2 file?

2022-12-12 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 12 Dec 2022 06:33:15 -0800 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > This it? > > dd if=/dev/zero of=/sometempfile Seems like that would work. Might need to do it as root in case the kernel doesn't allow an ordinary user to use up all the free space on a disk. And don't forget "rm /sometempfile" o

Re: dump/restore?

2022-12-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2022-12-11 at 23:42 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 12/11/22 05:22, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > > Has dump/restore been superseded with something else? > > > > It ain't work right! > > > > dump restores a qcows drive as a blank drive > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2152

Re: How do you unsparsify a qcows2 file?

2022-12-12 Thread Mauricio Tavares
On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 9:44 AM Tom Horsley wrote: > > On Mon, 12 Dec 2022 06:33:15 -0800 > ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > > > This it? > > > > dd if=/dev/zero of=/sometempfile > > Seems like that would work. Might need to do it as root in case the > kernel doesn't allow an ordinary user to use u

Re: virt-sparsify ?

2022-12-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2022-12-12 at 04:53 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > On 11/9/22 08:28, ToddAndMargo wrote: > > Any downside to ths tool? > > > > https://libguestfs.org/virt-sparsify.1.html > > > > Yes, BIG, BIG downside! > > dump/restore can not restore the fiel correctly. > > dump restores a q

Re: How do you unsparsify a qcows2 file?

2022-12-12 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 12/12/22 06:43, Tom Horsley wrote: On Mon, 12 Dec 2022 06:33:15 -0800 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: This it? dd if=/dev/zero of=/sometempfile Seems like that would work. Might need to do it as root in case the kernel doesn't allow an ordinary user to use up all the free space on a disk. A

Re: How do you unsparsify a qcows2 file?

2022-12-12 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 12/12/22 06:49, Mauricio Tavares wrote: I use logical volumes for the virtual machines I care about What is that? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora C

Re: How do you unsparsify a qcows2 file?

2022-12-12 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 12 Dec 2022 06:55:15 -0800 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > I wonder if qemu-ing convert will convert from > qcows2 to qcows2? I will see! Yep, that's how I always sparsified my files before the virt-sparsify tool existed. Write zeroes till you run out of space (thus making all the free s

Re: How do you unsparsify a qcows2 file?

2022-12-12 Thread Mauricio Tavares
On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 9:56 AM ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > > On 12/12/22 06:49, Mauricio Tavares wrote: > > I use logical volumes for the virtual machines I care about > > What is that? My desktop's (a VM guest) drive [user@vmhost ~]# sudo lvs vmhost_vg1 LVVG

Re: Better way to refresh the Display?

2022-12-12 Thread stan via users
On Sun, 11 Dec 2022 11:11:16 -0500 Javier Perez wrote: > On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 10:56 AM stan via users < > users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > > Have you tried switching to a virtual console (say Ctrl-Alt-F3), and > > then back again (Ctrl-Alt-F1)? I think that does a context switch,

Re: Better way to refresh the Display?

2022-12-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2022-12-12 at 08:57 -0700, stan via users wrote: > On Sun, 11 Dec 2022 11:11:16 -0500 > Javier Perez wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 10:56 AM stan via users < > > users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:  > > > > > Have you tried switching to a virtual console (say Ctrl-Alt-F3), > > >

Re: Better way to refresh the Display?

2022-12-12 Thread stan via users
On Mon, 12 Dec 2022 16:08:55 + Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2022-12-12 at 08:57 -0700, stan via users wrote: > > On Sun, 11 Dec 2022 11:11:16 -0500 > > Javier Perez wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 10:56 AM stan via users < > > > users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: 

Re: Better way to refresh the Display?

2022-12-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2022-12-12 at 09:33 -0700, stan via users wrote: > On Mon, 12 Dec 2022 16:08:55 + > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > On Mon, 2022-12-12 at 08:57 -0700, stan via users wrote: > > > On Sun, 11 Dec 2022 11:11:16 -0500 > > > Javier Perez wrote: > > >   > > > > On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 10

Re: Fedora37 NIS logins no audio in KDE/Plasma/X11

2022-12-12 Thread Terry Barnaby
On 11/12/2022 10:16, Terry Barnaby wrote: I've just updated a test machine from Fedora35 to Fedora37, most is working but users logged in using NIS authentication no longer have access to audio. The system is using the KDE/Plasma desktop and the sddm login manager all using X11. It looks li

Re: How do you unsparsify a qcows2 file?

2022-12-12 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 12/12/22 06:43, Tom Horsley wrote: On Mon, 12 Dec 2022 06:33:15 -0800 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: This it? dd if=/dev/zero of=/sometempfile Seems like that would work. Might need to do it as root in case the kernel doesn't allow an ordinary user to use up all the free space on a disk. A

Re: genisoimage source

2022-12-12 Thread Bill C
I had that source file for cdrkit. I ran rpm -ihv and was a bunch of errors and there is indeed a /rpm build directory in the root account. I. Ran rpm -qa |grep cdrkit and nothing shows. I will check this later tonight in front of my machine. But is there a src.rpm installed and not showing? On Su

Re: genisoimage source

2022-12-12 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 12 Dec 2022 16:09:06 -0500 Bill C wrote: > But is there a src.rpm installed and not showing? Another weird thing about source rpms is they don't go in the rpm database. It would be less confusing if they didn't call them "rpm"s. ___ users mailin

Re: genisoimage source

2022-12-12 Thread Bill C
I honestly was never into dnf. I always liked yum and didn't see a problem. I of course don't like systemd either and find it unnecessarily complicated and space consuming. United would be better imo but who am I. On Mon, Dec 12, 2022, 4:18 PM Tom Horsley wrote: > On Mon, 12 Dec 2022 16:09:06 -

Re: genisoimage source

2022-12-12 Thread Bill C
Init rd sorry. On Mon, Dec 12, 2022, 4:26 PM Bill C wrote: > I honestly was never into dnf. I always liked yum and didn't see a > problem. I of course don't like systemd either and find it unnecessarily > complicated and space consuming. United would be better imo but who am I. > > On Mon, Dec

Re: How do you unsparsify a qcows2 file?

2022-12-12 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 12/12/22 12:08, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 12/12/22 06:43, Tom Horsley wrote: On Mon, 12 Dec 2022 06:33:15 -0800 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: This it? dd if=/dev/zero of=/sometempfile Seems like that would work. Might need to do it as root in case the kernel doesn't allow an ordin

Re: How do you unsparsify a qcows2 file?

2022-12-12 Thread Bill Cunningham
You might want to think about setting a size on that file. dd can be pretty destructive as well as useful. I like to randomize file with it before truncating the contents. For example, if a file is 4096 bytes, I would use, 'dd if=/dev/zero of=/file bs=4096 count=1 conv=notrunc. Just so there is

Re: How do you unsparsify a qcows2 file?

2022-12-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2022-12-12 at 13:54 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > dump/restore restored a "raw" file perfectly. > > Interesting.  sha256sum came back different for > before and after  (.000 is before) > > # sha256sum KVM-W11.raw KVM-W11.raw.000 > > cbc480f889a9e337ab8b41b1e761da5f7f27ad255ceb29

Re: Youtube Videos Don't Play in Fedora

2022-12-12 Thread Stephen Morris
On 12/12/22 20:33, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/12/22 01:20, Stephen Morris wrote: On 12/12/22 19:18, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/9/22 04:37, John Pilkington wrote: You have repeated many times that removing pulseaudio would remove gnome-shell. Suggested workarounds have been   'rpm -e --nodeps pu

How do I identify a bluetooth device in bluetooth add device?

2022-12-12 Thread Stephen Morris
Hi,     I have a pair of "water dancing" bluetooth speakers that I am trying to get working under F37, I had these working in fedora quite some time ago and I've forgotten how I got them working. I've gone into the bluetooth interface in KDE's system settings and clicked on add device, which t

Re: How do I identify a bluetooth device in bluetooth add device?

2022-12-12 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 13 Dec 2022 09:43:43 +1100 Stephen Morris wrote: > why? Because bluetooth is the most persnickety unreliable temperamental protocol ever invented? Sometimes you have to put the device you are trying to connect to into some special mode before it will show up, and the way you do that isn'

Re: where is X? (was: Better way to refresh the Display?)

2022-12-12 Thread Felix Miata
Patrick O'Callaghan composed on 2022-12-12 16:41 (UTC): > On Mon, 2022-12-12 at 09:33 -0700, stan via users wrote: >> On Mon, 12 Dec 2022 16:08:55 + Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >>> On Mon, 2022-12-12 at 08:57 -0700, stan via users wrote: The graphical environment runs on virtual console

Re: How do you unsparsify a qcows2 file?

2022-12-12 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 12/12/22 14:17, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2022-12-12 at 13:54 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: dump/restore restored a "raw" file perfectly. Interesting.  sha256sum came back different for before and after  (.000 is before) # sha256sum KVM-W11.raw KVM-W11.raw.000 cbc480f889a9e

Re: How do I identify a bluetooth device in bluetooth add device?

2022-12-12 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2022-12-12 at 17:53 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: > Because bluetooth is the most persnickety unreliable temperamental protocol > ever invented? Bluetooth: noun, worse than WiFi -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.80.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Nov 8 15:48:59 UTC 2022 x86_64 Boilerplate: All

Re: Better way to refresh the Display?

2022-12-12 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 12/12/22 08:08, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2022-12-12 at 08:57 -0700, stan via users wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2022 11:11:16 -0500 Javier Perez wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 10:56 AM stan via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: Have you tried switching to a virtual console

Re: How do you unsparsify a qcows2 file?

2022-12-12 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 12/12/22 13:54, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 12/12/22 12:08, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 12/12/22 06:43, Tom Horsley wrote: On Mon, 12 Dec 2022 06:33:15 -0800 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: This it? dd if=/dev/zero of=/sometempfile Seems like that would work. Might need to do it

Re: How do you unsparsify a qcows2 file?

2022-12-12 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 12/12/22 12:08, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 12/12/22 06:43, Tom Horsley wrote: On Mon, 12 Dec 2022 06:33:15 -0800 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: This it? dd if=/dev/zero of=/sometempfile Seems like that would work. Might need to do it as root in case the kernel doesn't allow an ordin

Re: How do you unsparsify a qcows2 file?

2022-12-12 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 12/12/22 17:22, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/12/22 12:08, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 12/12/22 06:43, Tom Horsley wrote: On Mon, 12 Dec 2022 06:33:15 -0800 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: This it? dd if=/dev/zero of=/sometempfile Seems like that would work. Might need to do it as root in

Re: How do you unsparsify a qcows2 file?

2022-12-12 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 12/12/22 17:20, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/12/22 13:54, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 12/12/22 12:08, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 12/12/22 06:43, Tom Horsley wrote: On Mon, 12 Dec 2022 06:33:15 -0800 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: This it? dd if=/dev/zero of=/sometempfile Seems li

Re: Better way to refresh the Display?

2022-12-12 Thread Stephen Morris
On 13/12/22 12:16, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/12/22 08:08, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2022-12-12 at 08:57 -0700, stan via users wrote: On Sun, 11 Dec 2022 11:11:16 -0500 Javier Perez wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 10:56 AM stan via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: Have y

Re: How do I identify a bluetooth device in bluetooth add device?

2022-12-12 Thread Stephen Morris
On 13/12/22 09:53, Tom Horsley wrote: On Tue, 13 Dec 2022 09:43:43 +1100 Stephen Morris wrote: why? Because bluetooth is the most persnickety unreliable temperamental protocol ever invented? Sometimes you have to put the device you are trying to connect to into some special mode before it w

Re: How do I identify a bluetooth device in bluetooth add device?

2022-12-12 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 7:14 PM Tim via users wrote: > > On Mon, 2022-12-12 at 17:53 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: > > Because bluetooth is the most persnickety unreliable temperamental protocol > > ever invented? > > Bluetooth: noun, worse than WiFi Good one. ___

Re: How do I identify a bluetooth device in bluetooth add device?

2022-12-12 Thread Thomas Dineen
Gentle People:    For much of my career in Electrical Engineering I was involved in IEEE Standards Development, attending IEEE Standards meetings for many years! Ironically I was present at the IEEE 802 Plenary Meeting when Bluetooth was born via a Call For Interest! I always found the name ra

Re: How do I identify a bluetooth device in bluetooth add device?

2022-12-12 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 12/12/22 18:46, Stephen Morris wrote: On 13/12/22 09:53, Tom Horsley wrote: On Tue, 13 Dec 2022 09:43:43 +1100 Stephen Morris wrote: why? Because bluetooth is the most persnickety unreliable temperamental protocol ever invented? Sometimes you have to put the device you are trying to conn

Re: How do I identify a bluetooth device in bluetooth add device?

2022-12-12 Thread Stephen Morris
On 13/12/22 13:46, Stephen Morris wrote: On 13/12/22 09:53, Tom Horsley wrote: On Tue, 13 Dec 2022 09:43:43 +1100 Stephen Morris wrote: why? Because bluetooth is the most persnickety unreliable temperamental protocol ever invented? Sometimes you have to put the device you are trying to co