Re: Sometimes need to Ctrl-Alt-F1 and log in again to resume GNOME session

2024-10-05 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2024-10-04 at 08:20 -0300, George N. White III wrote: > There have been many changes to linux in an effort to minimize power > consumption. This is needed to get volume orders for cubicle farms > where power and cooling are a major concern. I have to wonder how well Fedora would really do

Re: the kernel that is and is not there

2024-10-02 Thread Tim via users
Tim: > > I wonder if you ended up with two /boots at some stage? With the newer > > kernels, etc, installed into the currently unseen one. > > > > Do you have an unmounted /boot partition? Andras Simon: > How do I check? mount | grep boot > returns > /dev/sda1 on /boot type ext4 > /dev/sda2 on /

Re: the kernel that is and is not there

2024-10-01 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2024-10-01 at 16:50 +0200, Andras Simon wrote: > A few months ago I upgraded a laptop to Fedora 39 but haven't used it > since, except for updating it a few times. But now I noticed that it > can only boot into an fc38 kernel. (This may have been like this since > upgrading, it's just that

Re: Move Fedora Server to new machine, RAID1 -> Single disk

2024-09-27 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2024-09-27 at 19:05 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > I have a Fedora Server running F40 on an old Proliant G5 with hardware > RAID1. The machine is giving too much trouble so I would like to > migrate to newer hardware with a single SSD. Both machines are x86_64. > > ... > > I am planning o

Re: Apache suspend/resume (again)

2024-09-22 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2024-09-22 at 15:16 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > All other network functions are working, including DNS. The problem > is exclusively with Apache, not because it's failing (nothing in the > journal suggests that and there's nothing in its own error.log) but > because the system is ex

Re: Apache suspend/resume (again)

2024-09-22 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2024-09-22 at 17:33 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Sep 09 07:55:05 Bree systemd[1]: systemd-suspend.service: Deactivated > successfully. <-- > ---Where is this coming > from? > Sep 09 07:55:05 Bree systemd[1]: Finished systemd-susp

Re: Apache suspend/resume (again)

2024-09-22 Thread Tim via users
Barry Scott: > > Does httpd recover if you unplug the network cable and then plug it back in? Patrick O'Callaghan: > It does. The problem only ever occurs on suspend (or hibernate)/resume. > In fact it occasionally doesn't happen then either, which suggests a > race of some sort. > Network hardw

Re: Apache suspend/resume (again)

2024-09-21 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2024-09-21 at 13:16 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Here's the relevant section from the journal: > > Sep 21 13:04:12 Bree systemd[1]: httpd.service: Deactivated successfully. > Sep 21 13:04:12 Bree systemd[1]: httpd.service: Consumed 2.980s CPU time. > Sep 21 13:04:14 Bree NetworkMana

Re: Apache suspend/resume (again)

2024-09-21 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2024-09-21 at 13:16 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I assume there's a systemd mechanism for getting httpd to wait for the > network before resuming, but I've no idea how to accomplish this. I run Apache on my CentOS PC, and although I don't suspend it, I don't ever recall Apache not w

Re: [FC8] ssh and CAC card???

2024-09-17 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> Serious understatement... 17 years old Samuel Sieb: > It was a spam email. Did you see what was right at the end? I saw a link to what looks like a link for some memory, though didn't click it, and still haven't. That, in itself, doesn't jump out at me as spam, people do sometimes refe

Re: [FC8] ssh and CAC card???

2024-09-17 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2024-09-16 at 20:25 +, Jack Hicks wrote: > 7. Try Updating the System > Fedora 8 is quite old, and some experimental features might not have > been fully supported or stable at the time. Serious understatement... 17 years old -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.119.1.el7.x86_64 #1 S

Re: Gen 2x2 hub question

2024-09-15 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2024-09-15 at 08:57 -0300, George N. White III wrote: > "It works with Windows" seems to be the end goal for many manufacturers. That must be defined by the same people selling second hand gear on ebay, et al. "Working" merely means that a light came on and it did not catch fire when powe

Re: Gen 2x2 hub question

2024-09-15 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2024-09-15 at 01:21 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > The Delock is missing the SBU1 and SBU2 pins. "What is SBU in USB? "Sideband Use (SBU) The Sideband Use pins (SBU1 and SBU2) are used in Audio Adapter Accessory Mode and Alternate Modes. The Alternate Mode includes USB4, DisplayPo

Re: AVC error in cron script - SOLVED?

2024-09-11 Thread Tim via users
On Wed, 2024-09-11 at 12:19 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Turns out I don't need any of this. If I substitute my original crontab > line for one that simply calls a Shell script which in turn calls > apachectl, then it all works with no AVC. ENVironment differences? The crontab versus your

Re: Calibre error

2024-09-05 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2024-09-05 at 13:11 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > This made my radar today: > . > It's like Peter Gutmann said: "A great many of today’s security > technologies are “secure” only because no-one has

Re: no sound

2024-09-03 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2024-09-03 at 14:57 -0700, Geoffrey Leach wrote: > Working on bluetooth configuration I inadvertently killed regular > (speakers) sound. Nothing is muted and reboot did not change the > situation. You didn't say which desktop you're using (Gnome, KDE...). I use Mate, which is like old Gn

Re: cups messages in boot logs.

2024-09-02 Thread Tim via users
Tim: > > As far as printer driving is concerned, there's a belief that we should > > move away from every printer having their own incompatible ways of > > doing things (yay!), and there should be a common standard (good luck > > with that) where you can just print to your printer through the syste

Re: cups messages in boot logs.

2024-09-02 Thread Tim via users
Tim: > > As far as printer driving is concerned, there's a belief that we should > > move away from every printer having their own incompatible ways of > > doing things (yay!), and there should be a common standard (good luck > > with that) where you can just print to your printer through the syste

Re: cups messages in boot logs.

2024-09-02 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2024-09-01 at 16:05 -0600, home user via users wrote: > My primary concern is the message regarding a "deprecated" printer > driver. As I understand "deprecated", something should already have > happened but didn't, and the old way will soon cease working. So: > 1. What is it that should

Re: Dual boot failure after Windows update?

2024-08-31 Thread Tim via users
Matthew Saltzman: > > > Microsoft's August security update included a patch to prevent > > > vulnerable GRUB2 (susceptible to bypassing UEFI secure boot) > > > installations from booting. Tim: > > Hmm, would they prevent their own system from booting if it had (yet > > another) security flaw? > >

Re: Dual boot failure after Windows update?

2024-08-30 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2024-08-30 at 12:53 +, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > Microsoft's August security update included a patch to prevent > vulnerable GRUB2 (susceptible to bypassing UEFI secure boot) > installations from booting. Hmm, would they prevent their own system from booting if it had (yet another) se

Re: Reboot timeout

2024-08-28 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2024-08-27 at 08:01 +0100, Barry wrote: > Sync is not used on shutdown. > It is the action of umount that causes all data to be flushed out to the disk. > As you say that may take a while if the disk is slow, USB, or has just had a > huge > amount of data written to it just before shutdown

Re: warning in log during boot.

2024-08-28 Thread Tim via users
George N. White III: > > > > Issues like this tend to accumulate when systems have been upgraded > > many times because upgrades don't remove old configuration data. I > > prefer to do a fresh install every once in a while to keep things > > clean and avoid wasting time sorting out issues like th

Re: Waking from suspend

2024-08-25 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2024-08-25 at 08:51 +0100, Barry wrote: > The RTC wake powers on the system. But a suspended system is > already powered up and kernel is in charge. I wouldn't say so. It's barely powered up, and you're relying on firmware to control waking it up. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.119

Re: Reboot timeout

2024-08-25 Thread Tim via users
Fulko Hew: > > But 'shutdown' provided all the housekeeping work such as: > > - disabling logins > > - sending out messages to users screen warning them of the impending > > doom > > - providing grace time > > - unmounted file systems > > - killed the system Patrick O'Callaghan: > Same here. Howev

Re: Waking from suspend

2024-08-24 Thread Tim via users
Doug Herr: >> I also enabled the "Magic" check box for the Network Manager config >> for my Ethernet port. Patrick O'Callaghan: > Not sure what that is. I don't see any such box. In the Network Manager open up the editing window for a connection, go into the ethernet tab, the wake-on LAN section

Re: OT: UEFI settings for DDR5 RAM

2024-08-23 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2024-08-23 at 11:26 -0400, Neal Becker wrote: > I ran across this article that has some good info: > https://www.xda-developers.com/6-bios-settings-every-new-pc-builder-needs-to-know-about I have a bit of an issue with overly simplistic statements like this: "Secure Boot, one of the most

Re: Strange laptop behavior #2

2024-08-23 Thread Tim via users
George N. White III: > Some UPS software blocks non-root logins after sending a "shutdown now" > message > when UPS battery capacity is low. If the battery has died, it may continue > to broadcast > shutdown messages after power is restored. I think some UPS systems and > software > can stay

Re: Unexpected laptop behavior

2024-08-23 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2024-08-23 at 12:18 -0700, Paolo Galtieri wrote: > I normally run my laptop on AC power. I also have it plugged into a > UPS. Today the power went out. The power applet on the mate desktop > reported I had 7298 hours of laptop run time and 5 minutes of UPS. > The laptop then powered its

Re: Reboot timeout

2024-08-23 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2024-08-23 at 12:30 +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote: > Unfortunately somebody thinks that showing a useless spinning logo > is more "elegant" than letting the user understand what's (mis)happening. > People do not even know they have to press esc to see things. Doesn't have that cool hacker vi

Re: Reboot timeout

2024-08-22 Thread Tim via users
Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > I find it highly improbable that there is a "delay reboot for X > > minutes for no reason whatsoever" setting somewhere, that simply > > needs to be changed. As Mr. Spock would say: "this is not logical". Tim: > Although that pretty much describes what I see on a friend'

Re: Reboot timeout

2024-08-22 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2024-08-22 at 07:15 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > I find it highly improbable that there is a "delay reboot for X > minutes for no reason whatsoever" setting somewhere, that simply > needs to be changed. As Mr. Spock would say: "this is not logical". Although that pretty much describes w

Re: boot stops before startx....

2024-08-21 Thread Tim via users
home user: > > The problem is I don't know that the kernel is going to update until it's > > too late: when I run the "dnf upgrade". Francis: > I always do first a "dnf check-update", then if I agree: > > nohup dnf -y update & > > (a systemd-run will be even better/safer than nohup) > I *ne

Re: OT: UEFI settings for DDR5 RAM

2024-08-19 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2024-08-19 at 22:02 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > The overclocking options start at 5400, so I don't think that's it. The > DRAM spec is 5200 and I now have it working at that frequency. Makes me wonder if the automatic selection is based on some unmentioned criteria (*lowest* common

Re: [solved] Re: dmesg, serial port and permissions

2024-08-18 Thread Tim via users
Tim: > > I've never come across a charge-only cable. I understand why someone > > would use one (e.g. public charging), but I thought some use of the > > data pins was necessary to switch from lower power mode. > > > > If you keep unusual cables, label them. It'll save you from some > > headache

Re: [solved] Re: dmesg, serial port and permissions

2024-08-17 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2024-08-17 at 16:08 +0700, Frederic Muller wrote: > Obviously I was using one of those non-data capable cable and no data > was going through that port. I've never come across a charge-only cable. I understand why someone would use one (e.g. public charging), but I thought some use of th

Re: Recent issue with hddtemp.

2024-08-16 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2024-08-16 at 12:30 -0500, Roger Heflin wrote: > And having a hdtemp command/smartctl command spin up a drive to ask > its temp is a power wasting command. The drive stays spun up for > several minutes and uses around 5w more while it is spun up. So one > cannot argue with it returning a

Re: Slow transfer speed to USB 3.0 portable drive

2024-08-16 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2024-08-16 at 19:17 +, Andre Robatino wrote: > In my case, I didn't have the nemo package installed on my laptop > (the one with USB 3.0 ports) so sync was never enabled when using > that machine. The two machines with USB 2.0 ports both have nemo > installed (as part of the cinnamon de

key updating (was: Signal-Desktop & nodejs-electron GPG key problem)

2024-08-07 Thread Tim via users
Todd Zullinger > > Another possibility is that the keys have been updated since > > you initially installed them and you need to remove the > > current key to allow dnf to import the updated key. Todd Zullinger: > I think this is the case. > > I was able to copy the yum repo file from there and i

Re: compatible filesystems between Mac and Linux

2024-08-01 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2024-07-29 at 22:01 +0930, Tim via users wrote: > I went with EXFAT. I had tried various other filing systems in the past, but both sides have to support it well. Sometimes you'd find both sides could read something okay, but messed up when creating files in a way that require

Re: compatible filesystems between Mac and Linux

2024-08-01 Thread Tim via users
On Wed, 2024-07-31 at 08:48 -0300, George N. White III wrote: > I've been retired for years, but worked in a group that replaced SGI > IRIX4 with macOS. We used EXFAT on external drives. We had > colleagues scattered around the globe, so there were often problems > with filenames using unicode, i

Re: compatible filesystems between Mac and Linux

2024-08-01 Thread Tim via users
Jeffrey Walton : > > One other thing... Apple also provides support for multiple-forks, > > which are like NTFS Alternate Data Streams. So be sure to avoid them > > on the Apple side. Also see . Barry: > I do not see this in macOS these days. It’s a hang ov

Re: scroll lock shortcut in emacs

2024-07-30 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2024-07-30 at 20:03 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Anyone happen to know which alternate key combination toggle scrolls lock > mode in emacs? > > I'm constantly using two different laptops, and, of course, their keyboards > have Fn and Ctrl in opposite order. > > Somehow my fumbling

Re: teal(?) messages during boot.

2024-07-29 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> Also look at dmesg (it's a command, and logfiles in /var/log/dmesg). home user: > There is no "/var/log/dmesg" directory or file. > "find -name logfiles -print" does not find a file "logfiles" in the /var tree. Okay, in my case this was on an older system, and might be a peculiarity of it

Re: compatible filesystems between Mac and Linux

2024-07-29 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2024-07-29 at 11:00 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Also, be aware that some Apple filesystems allow hard links to > directories (to support Time Machine). May or may not be relevant. I don't use that. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.119.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Jun 4 14:43:51 UTC

Re: compatible filesystems between Mac and Linux

2024-07-29 Thread Tim via users
Tim: > > If I wanted to use a USB hard drive between a Mac and Linux, what are > > the best choices of file systems that work well in both ways? > > > > Chiefly, I'm offloading edited video files from the Mac's drive that's > > filling up, that I want to keep for posterity. But it would be nice t

Re: compatible filesystems between Mac and Linux

2024-07-29 Thread Tim via users
Tim: > > If I wanted to use a USB hard drive between a Mac and Linux, what are > > the best choices of file systems that work well in both ways? > > > > Chiefly, I'm offloading edited video files from the Mac's drive that's > > filling up, that I want to keep for posterity. But it would be nice t

compatible filesystems between Mac and Linux

2024-07-28 Thread Tim via users
Hi, If I wanted to use a USB hard drive between a Mac and Linux, what are the best choices of file systems that work well in both ways? Chiefly, I'm offloading edited video files from the Mac's drive that's filling up, that I want to keep for posterity. But it would be nice to be able to read an

Re: teal(?) messages during boot.

2024-07-28 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2024-07-28 at 20:56 -0600, home user via users wrote: > 1. correct or wrong: > During the boot process, before log-in becomes available, there is no > way to "freeze" and "unfreeze" the messages appearing on the monitor. It *used* to be possible to boot in a step-by-step mode, where it pau

Re: teal(?) messages during boot.

2024-07-28 Thread Tim via users
Tim: > > There are two oddities in it, though: While obviously you can have > > dark or bright red. What do you do with white (111) and black (000)? > > Do you get two different greys to go with them? ;-) Yes, supposedly, > > but I remember that some terminals did odd things. home user: > I'm

Re: NVMe questions

2024-07-27 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2024-07-27 at 19:40 -0600, Gabriel Ramirez wrote: > If you give the FAT file system a volume name (i.e. file system label), > be sure to name it something other than EFI. That can trigger a bug in > some firmwares (due to the volume name matching the EFI directory name) > that will cause

Re: teal(?) messages during boot.

2024-07-26 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2024-07-26 at 13:16 -0600, home user via users wrote: > 3 bits codes 8 colors: the 3 primaries, the 3 secondaries, white, and > black. 4 bits (1 nibble) adds 8 more colors: a dark version each of > the 8 3-bit colors. All goes back decades, to primitive color > devices. There are two odd

Re: teal(?) messages during boot.

2024-07-26 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2024-07-26 at 13:16 -0600, home user via users wrote: > The term "plymouth" in this tread... brings to my mind: > * Plymouth Rock; > * some cities/towns and other geographic places (including Plymouth Rock); > * a car model (decades ago, for a short while, I drove a Plymouth Gold > Duster)

Re: teal(?) messages during boot.

2024-07-25 Thread Tim via users
Will McDonald wrote: > > Does it look anything like this image... > > > > https://redhat.discourse-cdn.com/fedoraproject/original/3X/3/c/3c95f957d2a3f8a99d11fe8e5c7007229f78ae6a.jpeg > > > >

Re: teal(?) messages during boot.

2024-07-24 Thread Tim via users
On Wed, 2024-07-24 at 09:15 -0600, home user via users wrote: > question #1 > How do I find these "teal" boot messages so I can actually see what > they're saying? "System Log", "Logs", "vim", "more", "less", "cat", > "gvim" all do not show color. (I'm using gnome.) Those colours will be set by

Re: change the default dns on fedora 40

2024-07-23 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2024-07-23 at 14:31 +0200, François Patte wrote: > I try to change the default dns configured by my ISP on a fedora 40. > > Once upon a time it was easy: just change the file /etc/resolv.conf > now And if you try the method we've been told to use for the last several years, how d

Re: rkhunter flags /dev/shm/jack* files

2024-07-22 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2024-07-22 at 21:02 -0400, Jonathan Billings wrote: > /dev/shm is a tmpfs filesystem. Anything placed there is wiped after > shutdown. It doesn’t exist on the disk. > > Jack uses it for ephemeral files that only exist while it runs. > > While it’s possible to use %ghost in the rpm spec

Re: no sound on bluetooth headphones

2024-07-20 Thread Tim via users
Geoffrey Leach wrote: > > Using bluetooth on Fedora 40/xcfe4 for the first time > > > > Headphone pair OK > > Bluetooth is active and running > > Bluetooth Manager sees headphones > > Volume Control does not see the headphones > > > > Testing with mplayer foo.mp3; sound at speakers > > On Sat

Re:

2024-07-16 Thread Tim via users
Tim via users wrote: > > Never have our electoral processes asked for ID. They just ask your > > name and address, and cross you off a printed list. And I agree that > > it's a stunningly stupid way to run it. Also, our elections are > > *all* done by filli

Re: another f38->f40 issue: network if is renamed.

2024-07-15 Thread Tim via users
Tim: > > For me, and probably everyone else, the solution would have been for > > some unique part of the hardware (such as MAC, or PCI slot data, etc), > > to get tied to eth0 during installation. Likewise for eth1, etc. > > Rather than used to create a gibberish name for it. Samuel Sieb: > The

Re: another f38->f40 issue: network if is renamed.

2024-07-15 Thread Tim via users
fed...@eyal.emu.id.au wrote: > > If the name is assigned to a MAC then it will be stable regardless, on > > every boot. Barry: > This is not true. > The eth devices are numbered in the order they are discovered by the kernel. > That is why they can change on each boot if discovery timing has race

Re: Problems with certifcates, firefox and chrome

2024-07-15 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2024-07-15 at 17:16 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > To reiterate, when replying with HyperKitty, please quote some context. > HK doesn't do this automatically and many (most) of us are reading your > post on the mailing list rather than the web. Even on webpages, replies like that are

Re: Is there an equivalent of Ubuntu Pro for Fedora?

2024-07-15 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> I wonder if anyone vets that information? Jonathan Billings: > Just check the references: > > https://static.open-scap.org/ssg-guides/ssg-fedora-guide-standard.html#xccdf_org.ssgproject.content_rule_accounts_maximum_age_login_defs > Although I picked a specific portion (about passwords

Re: Is there an equivalent of Ubuntu Pro for Fedora?

2024-07-15 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2024-07-15 at 12:48 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > And another spoiler from the book: Security Questions are insecure. No > one should be using them nowadays. We've known they are insecure for > 15 or 20 years or so. Yes! Security questions shouldn't ask you to provide them with details t

Re:

2024-07-15 Thread Tim via users
Tim: > > The phone companies have very crap security at preventing that (number > > transferring), and the banks are poor security at user identification > > confirmation (some are easily satisfied with being told just your name > > and birthdate over the phone). > > > > Many years ago I set up

Re: Is there an equivalent of Ubuntu Pro for Fedora?

2024-07-15 Thread Tim via users
Tim: > > I just looked for the obvious stupid one, there's probably other bad > > things in there. There's always been stupid advice, and people > > blithely go along with it. Bob Marčan: > Not only that. Different applications have different rules for > passwords: number of characters, special s

Re: another f38->f40 issue: network if is renamed.

2024-07-15 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2024-07-15 at 10:09 +0100, Barry wrote: > The reason for the renaming is to ensure that the interface names are > consistent in every boot. It is an issue on some systems that an > interface may be eth0 on one boot the eth1 on the next. > > Consider using the new naming so you have stabili

Re: Is there an equivalent of Ubuntu Pro for Fedora?

2024-07-15 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2024-07-15 at 11:08 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Ironically, the most hidebound sites tend to be banks, which in my > experience don't even let you use a password manager (other than in > copy-paste mode), which is by far the best way for the average user to > get good non-repeating

Re: Is there an equivalent of Ubuntu Pro for Fedora?

2024-07-14 Thread Tim via users
Bill Oliver wrote: > > I grew up on Red Hat/Fedora years ago, but moved to Ubuntu because > > some software I used was available in binary form only in that > > distro. Recently, I've moved back to Fedora. One thing i took > > advantage of when I was using Ubuntu was the free level one Ubuntu >

Re: OT: motherboard

2024-07-12 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2024-07-12 at 08:48 -0700, Todd Chester via users wrote: > All I get is rumors too. What I do know it > that the hardware requirements will be the same > as W11 plus the addition of an AI capable > processor. > > My current processor does not meet W11's > requirements. Oh, gourd no... AI

Re: Remastering ISO filenames (was: make a bootable dvd)

2024-07-11 Thread Tim via users
Jeffrey Walton: >> ++. The firmware on my old Asus Q500a laptop wanted the efi filename >> in all lowercase -- EFI/BOOT/bootx64.efi instead of >> EFI/BOOT/BOOTx64.efi. The laptop would not boot to the DVD otherwise. >> The UEFI on the laptop was by a company called Aptio. On Thu, 2024-07-11 at 10

Re: OT: motherboard

2024-07-11 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2024-07-11 at 13:53 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > ASUS is almost impossible to get any presales support. Their > two phone numbers either hand up on yo or go to answering > machine. Their contact forms won't allow gmail or ]zoho mail. > They require you give them you gmail logon

Re: make a bootable dvd

2024-07-08 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2024-07-08 at 17:01 +0200, François Patte wrote: > I downloaded the f40 iso for a worksation, but I did not see on the > fedora website how to burn a bootable DVD with this iso file This page has some doing it from the command line instructions: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/q

Re: Fedora 40 Mate ALMOST can't be installed

2024-07-05 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2024-07-05 at 06:36 -0700, Tide Ka via users wrote: > I have gone through man pages of `dd` and find executing `sync` right > after the writing finished may not be enabled by default. That requires > passing `oflag=sync` or passing nocache to `conv=`, but non of the above > is done in th

Re: isues with f40 install

2024-07-05 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2024-07-04 at 18:09 +0200, François Patte wrote: > Should I understand that if you have a windows installation on a disk > with some (big) space left, you cannot install f40 as a dual boot > system? (because anaconda is unable to ignore the windows partition) It's been ages since I dual-

Re: Fedora 40 Mate ALMOST can't be installed

2024-07-05 Thread Tim via users
Samuel Sieb: >> The writing is finished when dd exits, but the drive might keep flashing >> briefly after that. Or maybe the drive has some internal caching that >> it doesn't advertise (that would be very bad). Tide Ka: > Won't there be any kernel cache, so `sync` command is their for coping

Re: apache won't start after upgrade - read-only filesystem

2024-07-04 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> Why are you trying to write log files into your homespace? Alex: > It's a legacy system (think webalizer era), but there are also > multiple virtual hosts and it makes it easier to keep them segmented. > The document root is in /home/httpd/www.mysite.com/html. > > There's not enough space

Re: apache won't start after upgrade - read-only filesystem

2024-07-04 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2024-07-04 at 16:31 -0400, Alex wrote: > I've just upgraded from fedora38 to fedora39 and directly to fedora40 > and now apache won't start: > > (30)Read-only file system: AH00091: httpd: could not open error log > file /home/httpd/www.mysite.com/logs/error_log. > AH00015: Unable to open l

Re: isues with f40 install

2024-07-04 Thread Tim via users
Tim: > > EFI is its own partition, that will be mounted inside /boot when Linux > > boots. I'm not actually sure why that decision was made, I don't see > > why we couldn't have just had /EFI. I suppose someone wanted to hide > > all the boot things in /boot. On this PC, it's wierdly nested, so

Fedora 40 Mate ALMOST can't be installed

2024-07-04 Thread Tim via users
I succeeded in the end, but this is a story about an annoying amount of pain that shouldn't have been necessary... You know, I'd like to try installing Fedora 40 (MATE spin), but found it almost impossible. The downloaded ISO couldn't be booted, whether DD'd to a flashdrive, or burnt to a DVD.

Re: isues with f40 install

2024-07-04 Thread Tim via users
Mike Wright: > > I *think* that there can be only one /boot/efi partition on a disk. François Patte: > So how can we proceed when you want a dual (fedora/fedora, > fedora/debian, fedora.ubuntu) boot on the same disk? The idea is there is just one boot/efi on a system (even if you have multip

Re: Local, system e-mails only delivered on reboot

2024-07-03 Thread Tim via users
On Wed, 2024-07-03 at 10:04 -0400, Tim Evans wrote: > Jul 03 09:45:07 kestrel sendmail[1526]: 45T7V2ou003307: > to=, delay=4+06:14:04, xdelay=00:00:00, > mailer=esmtp, pri=9500566, relay=kestrel.mynetworksettings.com., > dsn=4.4.1, stat=Deferred: Connection refused by > kestrel.mynetworksetting

Re: Latest upgrade KDE Wayland high CPU

2024-07-01 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2024-06-27 at 08:11 -0700, richard emberson wrote: > Never Mind. > Within 2 hours of posting the original post, Idle CPU usage settled down less > than 1% and > this morning it is still at less than 1%. > > Still its funny that Fedora/WayLand/KDE wanted to use so much CPU for the > first

Re: crazy dependencies

2024-07-01 Thread Tim via users
Tim: > > evolution: error while loading shared libraries: libgsttranscoder- > > 1.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory > > > > Evolution did work on that system long before those gstreamer plugins > > were ever installed. And it works again after reinstalling them. I

Re: crazy dependencies

2024-06-30 Thread Tim via users
Samuel Sieb: >> Do you have an actual example? > Bob Marčan: > Not right now. But I came across this. I'll post when it happens to me again. > BR, Bob That was why I posted what I did about Fedora 36 (because I had a cut and paste example immediately to hand). I'm sure that it's around a month

Re: crazy dependencies

2024-06-30 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2024-06-29 at 13:35 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > I didn't notice this originally, but you're still on F36 and expecting > help with it?? Maybe you should try using something current instead of > trying to track down issues in discontinued software. It's more about the situation in genera

crazy dependencies

2024-06-29 Thread Tim via users
I'd like to know why this: dnf remove gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-1.20.3-1.fc36.x86_64 gstreamer1- plugins-bad-free-extras-1.20.3-1.fc36.x86_64 gstreamer1-plugins-bad- freeworld-1.20.3-1.fc36.x86_64 Wants to do all of this (quoted below), it's a virtual system destruct for the want of removing so

Re: password issue with f40

2024-06-26 Thread Tim via users
Michael Hennebry: >> Any ideas? Samuel Sieb: > I don't.  I usually use vlc, but I just tried totem (Videos) and it > played anything I tried, include h265. I found totem rather bad for playing some files, likewise with parole media player (what an awful name for a media player - and it nearly al

Re: password issue with f40

2024-06-24 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2024-06-24 at 19:48 -0700, Mike Wright wrote: > I can't dissect a .rpm but I know how to dissect a .deb so I installed > totem onto Ubuntu 24.04 (latest release) so I could take it apart. You can open them in an archive manager (treating them the same as zip files, and various other arch

Re: Kernel 6.9.5-200.fc40 throws me into grub prompt on reboot

2024-06-23 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2024-06-22 at 23:54 -0400, Frank Bures wrote: > This is what my efibootmgr returns: > > root@ryzen:/# efibootmgr > BootCurrent: 0002 > Timeout: 1 seconds > BootOrder: 0002,,0001 > Boot Fedora > HD(1,GPT,e8838c34-c364-4347-afb7-1c516782b114,0x800,0x12c000)/\EFI\FEDORA\SHIMX64.EFI

Re: Firefox foul ups

2024-06-22 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2024-06-22 at 15:57 -0300, George N. White III wrote: > I generally keep the number external sites connected at one time to a single > digit. > I use No Script, and notice that, for many sites, the list of 3rd party sites > I have to > "temporarily trust" to make the site usable has grow

Re: crond

2024-06-22 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2024-06-22 at 23:02 +0200, Patrick Dupre via users wrote: > Even if I remove the x right ? That kind of thing will always depend on how a script is handled. If it's run directly by a shell, then the shell *may* care about eXecute bit. Likewise, if its *run* by a handler. But if it's ess

Re: password issue with f40

2024-06-20 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> In what sense, *exactly*, "does not work"? Michael Hennebry wrote: > I could not login. > The screen would blink. > Sometimes I would briefly see a cursor. > I'd be back at the login screen. Very similar to what happened to me, though could be coincidental. I'd occasionally get the same

Re: password issue with f40

2024-06-20 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2024-06-20 at 00:30 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: > I just discovered something interesting: > None of the accounts on my machine will login with Xorg. > The option is offered, but is does not work. In what sense, *exactly*, "does not work"? I remember an old X problem where you'd try to

Re: Interesting mount problem - F40

2024-06-18 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2024-06-18 at 11:40 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > Using dd to back up a disk leaves the copy with the exact same UUID > as the source. So it is just down to random timing and order of > operations as to which disk it will choose, so using /dev/sda > instead of UUID is one possible solution, b

Re: Thunderbird - Wayland / other apps

2024-06-17 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2024-06-17 at 08:13 +1000, Stephen Morris wrote: > I'm not sure this is helpful, but it may be an attempt to emulate > windows. I have a similar issue under Windows 10 where all apps, not > relative to the screen saver, when minimised and subsequently > maximised display on the monitor conf

Re: grub2-mkconfig

2024-06-05 Thread Tim via users
On Wed, 2024-06-05 at 13:37 +0200, Patrick Dupre via users wrote: > Sorry for all this mail exchanges for a simple thing. Multi-boot isn't a simple thing, there's a lot of hurdles. If you needed to ask, you needed to ask. That's what the list is for. -- NB: All unexpected mail to my mailbo

Re: grub2-install

2024-06-04 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2024-06-03 at 15:59 +0200, Patrick Dupre via users wrote: > With your message we lost the thread. The thread is there. You're not supposed to keep quoting every prior reply when you respond to messages. Messages become huge and unreadable messes. You're supposed to reply to the bits you

Re: Skype rpms discontinued

2024-06-04 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2024-06-04 at 11:21 +0100, Paul Smith wrote: > Recently, the linux rpm distribution of skype has been discontinued: > > https://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?332743-Updates-hang-on-skype&p=1883992 > > Is there some alternative to using snap or web-skype > > https://snapcraft.io/i

Re: grub2-install

2024-06-03 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2024-06-03 at 13:53 +0200, Patrick Dupre via users wrote: > I wish to add that efibootmgr does not list the sdc3 installation. By default, it'll only show the boot options that installations have entered into it. If your install didn't do that, you can add entries, yourself. Have a look

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