Re: F27 problems with pam?

2018-05-15 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 15 May 2018 17:05:36 +0200 Gianluca Cecchi wrote: > Anyone else? I haven't noticed those specific problems, but pam being messed up was certainly the reason NIS logins weren't working: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1575297 Possibly the new authselect stuff has messed up

WTF is this nonsense from bash -x ?

2018-05-15 Thread Tom Horsley
I'll often run a little file full of shell commands and want to see the command followed by the output so I'll run it like so: bash -x ./files.txt > symbols.txt Before fedora 28, that would result in symbols.txt showing the commands in files.txt with a '+' in front of them followed by the output

Re: Make a systemd user service go away?

2018-05-11 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 11 May 2018 15:03:24 +0200 Ahmad Samir wrote: > # systemctl daemon-reload I always forget that exists. I'll try it if grive2 ever gets an update and re-installs the files. Thanks. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: Make a systemd user service go away?

2018-05-11 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 11 May 2018 08:36:09 -0400 Tom H wrote: > Were some user services installed in $HOME? There wasn't anything in $HOME with the name '*grive*' in it that find could find. Just the entries installed by the package in /usr/lib/systemd/user > Do they show up with "systemctl --user"? They

Re: Make a systemd user service go away?

2018-05-11 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 11 May 2018 06:30:37 -0600 Greg Woods wrote: > On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 5:55 AM, Tom Horsley <horsley1...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > So I have to ask, is there some "official" way to make > > systemd user services go away and

Make a systemd user service go away?

2018-05-11 Thread Tom Horsley
I installed the grive2 package so I could manually, when I need to upload a file to google drive via a command line tool. It works (clumsily) for this. But the package also installs a bunch of systemd user services and timers that unsuccessfully try to sync some nonexistant directory every half

Re: Kernel task 276 consumes 100% of io bandwidth on boo drive

2018-05-09 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 9 May 2018 16:55:03 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > Right, so it's not actually transferring any data, it's just waiting on > I/O for some reason. If it is a brand new just formatted ext4 system mounted for the first time, the system writes all the initial journal data structures (or

glibc-static compiled with -fpic?

2018-05-08 Thread Tom Horsley
I see scads of relocation codes for things like PLT references in the object files in /usr/lib64/libc.a from the glibc-static package. Why would a static library be compiled with what looks like dynamic options? ___ users mailing list --

Re: Unmount delayed -

2018-05-07 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 7 May 2018 18:44:51 -0400 Bob Goodwin wrote: > I copy the data to the device in a terminal, it takes perhaps 30 > seconds, when finished I close that to make the flash drive free and > then go to the desktop, click on the unmount and this last time waited > ~125 seconds for it to

Re: Fedora 28 killed bugzilla :-).

2018-05-07 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 8 May 2018 06:52:10 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > > Has the flood of fedora 28 bugs killed it? :-). > > Bummer.  I wanted to add a comment to > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1575297. Just tried it again, seems to be back up now.

Fedora 28 killed bugzilla :-).

2018-05-07 Thread Tom Horsley
I get a internal server error 500 when I try to go to the redhat bugzilla now (Monday evening). Has the flood of fedora 28 bugs killed it? :-). ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

My fedora 28 story so far

2018-05-06 Thread Tom Horsley
Most everything seems to be functioning as well as always. Improvement: x2go finally sees all the fonts without me having to beat on it. The bugs: NIS users can't login: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1575297 Haven't found a work around for this yet. Nouveau driver won't run X

Re: repo checksum errors for fedora 28 i686 arch?

2018-05-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 6 May 2018 12:56:58 -0700 Kevin Fenzi wrote: > Due to several unfortunate events, the repodata was messed up on the > 2nd/3rd. Everything should be back to normal now. Yep. I tried it again the next day and it worked OK. ___ users mailing list

Re: postfix relayhost to office365?

2018-05-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 6 May 2018 15:05:55 -0400 Tom Horsley wrote: > SASL mechanisms LOGIN XOAUTH2 Hey! I just found the problem. The XOAUTH2 is what doesn't work. I finally discovered the smtp_sasl_mechanism_filter parameter and set it to just login, and the mail is flowing again. Since oauth2 was inven

postfix relayhost to office365?

2018-05-06 Thread Tom Horsley
I had postfix setup to relay all the mail from my desktop to the stoopid office365 server we are forced to use at work. It worked fine on fedora 27. Now, with everything configured identically on fedora 28, postfix can't seem to send out any mail. I don't suppose anyone else has this combo

Re: F28: Why doesn't NIS work?

2018-05-05 Thread Tom Horsley
> Could it be pam-related? I suspect there are about 50 things that it could be related to. I submitted this bug which mentions some of them: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1575297 I used nss_nis as the component, just because I had to have a component, not because I know that is

No graphical boot, but wayland comes up in gnome3

2018-05-05 Thread Tom Horsley
With this video card: NVIDIA Corporation GM206 [GeForce GTX 960] (rev a1) when I boot the system I see a handful of funny errors that go past too fast, then the screen turns blank, the animated fedora logo never appears, but eventually the login screen pops up and things seem to work OK from

Re: F28: Why doesn't NIS work?

2018-05-05 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 5 May 2018 06:09:22 -0400 Tom H wrote: > Do you have nss_nis installed? Yep: nss_nis-3.0-3.fc28.x86_64 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: F28: Why doesn't NIS work?

2018-05-04 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 4 May 2018 13:51:14 -0700 Rick Stevens wrote: > Might I suggest using "compat" or "files sss" instead of "files nis" in > your /etc/nsswitch.conf file for passwd, group and shadow? E.g.: Thanks for the suggestion, but I tried both, same results, no login for NIS users. I enabled and

F28: Why doesn't NIS work?

2018-05-04 Thread Tom Horsley
I've got ypbin running. I can do a "ypcat passwd" and see the user defined The home directory and the shell both exist for that user The /etc/nsswitch.conf file has "files nis" for passwd, shadow, and group. But I get this in /var/log/secure: May 4 15:14:38 tomh login: FAILED LOGIN 1 FROM

repo checksum errors for fedora 28 i686 arch?

2018-05-02 Thread Tom Horsley
I saw there was an i686 fedora 28 workstation this time (didn't fedora 27 drop i686?) and I just installed the workstation iso as a virtual machine, but if I try to run DNF, I get this: [root@fed28i ~]# dnf -v install ksh Loaded plugins: builddep, config-manager, copr, debug, debuginfo-install,

No way to set hostname during install from f28 live?

2018-05-02 Thread Tom Horsley
I'm installing fedora 28 from the "install to disk" option of the workstation live CD. I don't appear to ever get an opportunity to set the hostname to anything other than the default localhost.localdomain. Did I miss it, or is this just something I need to change following the install?

What is target #1?

2018-04-30 Thread Tom Horsley
I see fedora 28 schedule says release is tomorrow, then there is another release next week for target #1. What on earth does that mean? (I clicked on the link and the word "target" does not appear in in the page it takes me to, so the meaning seems well disguised).

Re: printer and Fedora support.

2018-04-25 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 22:13:27 - home user via users wrote: > After doing back-ups this evening and upgrading to Fedora-27 tomorrow Fedora 28 is being released next week, might want to go with it :-). ___ users mailing list --

Re: printer and Fedora support.

2018-04-24 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 24 Apr 2018 07:16:31 -0700 ToddAndMargo wrote: > For scanning, check out SANE's (Common Unix Scanning System > [cuss]) list of supported scanners: > http://www.sane-project.org/sane-supported-devices.html I hope it is better now. The last time I was trying to find a working scanner

Re: printer and Fedora support.

2018-04-23 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 23 Apr 2018 17:28:04 - home user via users wrote: > 3. has printing, scanning, and copying. Good luck getting scanning to work. It may not be impossible, but the available info on what scanners can work with linux is microscopic. (I gave up and use a networked device and do my

Bug in cups web interface?

2018-04-12 Thread Tom Horsley
I used localhost:631 last night to turn on the global setting to make my printers visible on the network. It said it was restarting the server, but apparently all it did was stop the server until I manually did a "systemctl start cups" in a root window. Anyone else noticed this? If I wanted to

Re: Killing only selected Chrome windows from the CLI ?

2018-03-27 Thread Tom Horsley
Possibly relevant enhancement that might appear someday is discussed in this bug report: https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=766068 (I don't get the impression you should hold out hope for "someday" to be soon though). ___ users

Re: What do you open .mobi files with??

2018-03-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 23:09:25 + Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Calibre is the go-to package for all your ebook needs, including format > conversion, library maintenance, etc. And the really important bit is that you can get calibre plugins to strip DRM from books so you are no longer forced to

Re: Wow, KVM is great :-)

2018-03-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 22:20:07 - Raman Gupta wrote: > Running in the default NAT mode I always use the "bridge" networking. That way the KVM looks like just another machine on my local network, gets an IP from the DHCP on my router, etc. And I can delete the "default" network and turn off all

Re: Claws-Mail filters -

2018-03-04 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 4 Mar 2018 10:49:02 -0500 Bob Goodwin wrote: > I wanted to try Claws-Mail but after several days of sporadic attempts > to filter messages into my usual directories I am ready to admit defeat > and remove Claws. I've never found a mail client that could do filtering worth spit. What I

Re: samba share without authentication

2018-02-24 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 17:27:54 -0800 Gordon Messmer wrote: > Logged in with no password. But can a windows 10 box automatically mount it with no user interaction like it once could do with public shares before they got rid of the public share mode? ___

Re: samba share without authentication

2018-02-24 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 14:29:36 -0500 Fred Smith wrote: > Instead of putting it all in a batch file, including your credentials > a safer way... I'm doing the equivalent of a public share. Having the credentials in a world readable .bat file on the windows system is no less secure than an actual

Re: samba share without authentication

2018-02-24 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 11:24:06 +0100 François Patte wrote: > user > name and password are required! I keep reading this is possible, but ever since samba 4 came around it seems to be impossible. I eventually gave up and made a .bat file with the net command to mount the share with a user and

What was systemd doing to me yesterday?

2018-02-23 Thread Tom Horsley
First I noticed lots of things taking forever, such as logging in via ssh. Then I found log messages like: 2720.scope: Failed to activate service 'org.freedesktop.systemd1': timed out (service_start_timeout=25000ms) Feb 22 09:55:56 tomh su: pam_systemd(su:session): Failed to create session:

Re: What is this gibberish?

2018-02-03 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 4 Feb 2018 10:17:10 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > But please be aware that you're subverting the plot by a secret society to > produce > copious indecipherable output so users will switch over to GUIs and have > things > hidden from view.  :-) :-)   And then the secret society can cause

What is this gibberish?

2018-02-02 Thread Tom Horsley
Just did a dnf update, this comes out: ... Running scriptlet: firefox-58.0.1-1.fc27.x86_64 18/18 Running scriptlet: firefox-58.0-4.fc27.x86_64 18/18 Running as unit: run-r1880116b569f49288e6d0da0c5832367.service Running as unit:

Re: Easily add text and arrows on images: what is the best tool?

2018-02-01 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 1 Feb 2018 13:46:05 +0100 Frédéric wrote: > I would like to arrows/shapes + text on pictures. What is the best > tool for that? With gimp, it is easy to add text but the arrow is > difficult. Any tool? Gimp works for me: Find an arrow you like in an image with a transparent background,

Re: fedora27: ypbind intermittent startup

2018-02-01 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 1 Feb 2018 11:32:44 + Terry Barnaby wrote: > Does the system " target Network is Online" get reached after DHCP > configuration ? Probably doesn't matter because systemd has no idea what "up" means when it comes to networks :-(. ypbind is one of the services I always just start in

Re: Watchdog timer and slow shutdown

2018-01-29 Thread Tom Horsley
I've been using the technique described in here for a while to get my system to reboot in a reasonable amount of time: http://tomhorsley.com/game/punch.html The main thing is does is kill off all the systemd "user" daemons, which get started when anything logs in, but don't ever get stopped.

Re: Scroll Bars with Arrows Wanted

2018-01-24 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 24 Jan 2018 23:41:56 +0200 Ahmad Samir wrote: > Searching online, someone in the Linux Mint forum seems to have come > up with a way to make this work, simply replacing ".srcollbar" with > "*". I'd tested that briefly and it seems to work, but I don't know if > that would have any

Re: Scroll Bars with Arrows Wanted

2018-01-24 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 24 Jan 2018 12:30:09 -0800 Joe Zeff wrote: > The closer to the scroll bar the pointer is, the less the bar moves. > HTH, HAND. And that makes it so simple to click in order to move one line in a window displaying a 10,000 line file :-). ___

Re: Scroll Bars with Arrows Wanted

2018-01-24 Thread Tom Horsley
When the arrows first disappeared someone gave me this info: Among the gtk3 designer's more repulsive "improvements" is the removal of arrows from scrollbars, so when you have a very long list the slightest touch of the scrollbar sends the contents zooming off into the sunset. This can be fixed

Re: F26 suddenlty freezes (apparently due nouveau)

2018-01-24 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 24 Jan 2018 12:34:47 +0100 Frédéric wrote: > The video card is: NVIDIA Yep, I had exact same symptoms and went ahead and switched to the binary nvidia drivers from rpmfusion, no problems since then. ___ users mailing list --

Re: PHP/Apache issue may be OT

2018-01-20 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 17:16:44 -0800 Emmett Culley wrote: > Any ideas where to look further would be appreciated. Fedora 27 is fully up > to date. I can't help, but my quick and dirty php based file uploader to get stuff off my phone onto my linux desktop has also stopped working with the new

Re: Interaction between grubby and grub2-mkconfig

2018-01-20 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 10:24:26 -0500 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Did anyone use grub2-mkconfig before, to generate a new grub.cfg, and then > subsequently installed kernels new without grubby causing any issues? I never use /etc/default/grub, I always edit the grub.cfg file by hand. The whole

Re: usb wifi dongle for f27

2018-01-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 14 Jan 2018 10:11:57 -0700 JD wrote: > Could you or someone list some chipsets (even legacy ones) > that are very likely fully supported by f27 distribution iso > right out of the box.\ Well, I've got this one in my F27 desktop at work providing wifi for my phone and tablet acting as an

Re: usb wifi dongle for f27

2018-01-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 14 Jan 2018 09:39:27 -0700 JD wrote: > Which chipset will work for a usb wifi dongle without having to go > through the rigmarole of finding proprietary drivers and firmware? The odds are good that any random dongle will work OK. Things have gotten a lot better than they used to be. But

Re: Samba version woes

2018-01-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 14 Jan 2018 15:11:51 + Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > The Samba version is 3.2.15. Perhaps that is the problem. My fedora 27 box is running samba-4.7.4-0.fc27.x86_64 and my windows 10 virtual machine mounts a samba provided share with no complaints.

Re: !#@$**%^ Firefox

2018-01-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 18:05:08 + (UTC) Beartooth wrote: > Running under F27, Ffx 57 puts some accursed Url in its address > box on every new tab. I don't normally use firefox, but I just tried it on an f27 system I updated last night, and I just get the normal empty url field in a new tab. I

Re: Silly question about iconv

2018-01-04 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 04 Jan 2018 17:22:10 -0500 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > The man page for iconv_open() gives you a clue. So it does. Thanks! ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Silly question about iconv

2018-01-04 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 02:31:16 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > I do not see that behavior   Unless I | the output to more, less, or cat. Yep. If I run it in a terminal I don't see it either. I was running it as a shell command under emacs (which would send output to a pipe), and that's where I get

Silly question about iconv

2018-01-04 Thread Tom Horsley
If I run "iconv --list" it sticks "//" on the end of every encoding name, but I don't need the "//" when specifying a to or from encoding name. Does anyone have the slightest clue why the slashes are there in the listing output? ___ users mailing list

Re: Can't create volatile files... -- What is "gluster"?

2018-01-03 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 03 Jan 2018 10:17:24 -0800 Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > Is there any reason not to remove it? If you do an "dnf erase gluster" you'll probably see if there is a reason to not remove it when it tries to take stuff you do you with it :-). ___

Re: Not Quite OT: ebook readers?

2018-01-01 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 1 Jan 2018 16:50:08 + (UTC) Beartooth wrote: > but I guess that would > also be a place to try reading an ebook -- and there are vast numbers of > them out there ... I use calibre for all my ebook needs on linux (but I mostly use it to hold the books and do most of my reading on my

Re: Not just rpcbind, but man db update as well

2017-12-31 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 31 Dec 2017 17:18:57 -0500 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > I'm sure that folks running on a UPS would appreciate a system shutdown > triggered by a power failure, by a low power alert from the UPS, now having > to wait until the man page cache gets updated. Or someone trying to shutdown

Re: Not just rpcbind, but man db update as well

2017-12-31 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 31 Dec 2017 23:45:12 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > Everything went smoothly with no delay I tend to suspect that the rpcbind delay was caused by having NFS exports and the NFS services running (not that any NFS clients were using the service). ___

Not just rpcbind, but man db update as well

2017-12-31 Thread Tom Horsley
OK, I just updated my system and got the same ridiculous delays I saw someone else complain about recently. Not once, but twice. First when it installed the new rpcbind, then second when it ran the rpcbind scriptlet. Worse than that, when I rebooted to make sure everything was loaded from scratch

Re: mp4??

2017-12-27 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 27 Dec 2017 20:49:08 + (UTC) Beartooth wrote: > what are people > viewing mp4 files with? Probably need to install the rpmfusion.org repos and get mplayer (command line only, but has some gui wrappers) or vlc. Might even be some plugins on rpmfusion that let the "standard" fedora

guestmount --ro fails in fedora 27 on running VM?

2017-12-25 Thread Tom Horsley
I've just gotten everything switched to fedora 27, and I'm now finding that guestmount fails on a running VMs disk image. I used to be able to mount --ro and see a read only snapshot of the disk even if the KVM was still running. Now I get a lot of errors when I run: LIBGUESTFS_DEBUG=1

Re: un-used wi-fi interface

2017-12-24 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 24 Dec 2017 13:09:55 -0800 Samuel Sieb wrote: > Providing the exact message would be helpful in identifying where it's > coming from. This is the sort of stuff that showed up on the console and in dmesg: IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlp2s0: link is not ready but, rfkill did indeed make

Re: un-used wi-fi interface

2017-12-24 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 02:43:29 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > What desktop are you using?   KDE has a checkbox to turn off wifi.   Then > and/or how > about using the rfkill command to turn off the interface? I forgot about rfkill, that could work. Thanks. I'm not using any "normal" desktop, I'm got

un-used wi-fi interface

2017-12-24 Thread Tom Horsley
I'm not using the wi-fi in my Intel NUC, and about once a minute or so a log message appears saying "Hey! Your wi-fi interface isn't configured" (not that exact language, mind you :-). Any way to convince fedora to ignore this interface rather than honking about it every minute?

Re: NetworkManager-wait-online is still utterly, and completely, broken

2017-12-23 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 23 Dec 2017 10:50:44 -0500 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Maybe, perhaps, this approach should've made sense to do so only when NM > actually was able to support all the functionality it was taking over? How's > that for a crazy idea? Does anyone think I'm being completely off-base and >

Re: Missing openssl library files?

2017-12-22 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 16:43:49 + Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > dnf install makemkv There isn't a makemkv in either fedora or rpmfusion repos for fedora 27. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: Missing openssl library files?

2017-12-22 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 11:36:44 -0500 Temlakos wrote: > Anyone ever run into this? And how to fix it? Virtually everything in fedora has separate *-devel packages that contain the stuff you need to build code using those libs (separate from just the libs needed to run already built programs). For

Re: Where are my configuration and service management tools?

2017-12-22 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 09:35:26 -0500 Temlakos wrote: > Just figured out how to /enable/ and then to /start/ services. systemctl list-unit-files is useful to find out exactly how the services are spelled as well :-). ___ users mailing list --

Re: Where are my configuration and service management tools?

2017-12-22 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 08:24:40 -0500 Temlakos wrote: > And now: what happened to my system configuration tools? How do I start > and stop services? It is hopeless. Someone always "improves" things till they are useless. Learn the command line tools, they don't change out from under you as much.

Re: Old peeve still in 27

2017-12-21 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 18:31:57 + (UTC) Beartooth wrote: > behind a Trendnet > KVM switch KVM switches are notorious for screwing up EDID info describing the monitor's capabilities. One thing you can do to fix this is provide your own EDID info on the kernel command line: Check out

Re: NetworkManager-wait-online is still utterly, and completely, broken

2017-12-21 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 09:28:27 -0800 Gordon Messmer wrote: > It's just that static configuration > isn't what NM does. Which always struck me as very odd considering that redhat sponsors most of this stuff and mostly makes money off servers which almost always have static configurations that

Re: F26 hangs or dies

2017-12-20 Thread Tom Horsley
If it is graphics related, might be nouveau driver (if you are using an nvidia card). I had to switch to the binary nvidia driver from rpmfusion.org to prevent my display from randomly freezing up (though it was just the disply, I could still ssh into the system). I have seen some other

Re: NetworkManager-wait-online is still utterly, and completely, broken

2017-12-19 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 20:16:51 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > FWIW, are you aware that you shouldn't make changes to  > /usr/lib/systemd/system/* > files?  These can be overwritten up updates.  If you want to make changes you > should > created a file with the same name in /etc/systemd/system.  And

Re: NetworkManager-wait-online is still utterly, and completely, broken

2017-12-18 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 18 Dec 2017 09:56:03 -0700 stan wrote: > Boot went to multi-threaded, and so > became non-deterministic, in order to shorten boot time. And that has saved oh so much time compared to the time every sysadmin has spent fighting with it :-). ___

Re: Data migration for replacing HDD with SSD - suggestions?

2017-12-17 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 08:54:06 -0500 Temlakos wrote: > bind mounts are copies. They are copies of mountpoints, but not copies of the data. The /zooty/home directory is still there on my data disk, and the /home mount point also refers to /zooty/home. ___

Re: Data migration for replacing HDD with SSD - suggestions?

2017-12-17 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 08:31:05 -0500 Temlakos wrote: > And when I do that, any folder that I create on the "data disk," the > system will find by starting from /home/[user-ident]. You might want to consider a "bind" mount for /home instead of lots of symlinks for each home directory. I have this

Re: NetworkManager-wait-online is still utterly, and completely, broken

2017-12-17 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 11:07:52 + Dr J Austin wrote: > Anyone else with the same problem/ I gave up on getting NFS mounts to work a long time ago. I have a job I start with "at now" in rc.local that delays for a few seconds then does all the NFS mounts. I have other commands in there as well to

Re: Windows 10 update ate Fedora 25 boot info: EFI. LVM, LUKS, oh, my!

2017-12-12 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 16:18:39 -0800 Rick Stevens wrote: > In my experience, Windows has never played nicely with any other OS on > the disk. Not even "the" disk. I remember trying to install some version of windows once on a completely separate disk, and the installer would crash every time it

Re: Windows 10 update ate Fedora 25 boot info: EFI. LVM, LUKS, oh, my!

2017-12-12 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 23:51:06 +0100 wwp wrote: > isn't it possible to prevent Windows from killing > other systems from the EFI? That's why I run my windows 10 in a qemu virtual machine :-). ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: CACHE_ERROR on fedora27 with nouveau driver

2017-12-12 Thread Tom Horsley
I don't get those errors, but nouveau crashes for me as well: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1518350 I switched to the nvidia binary drivers from rpmfusion.org and have not had a problem with them (other than philosophical problems :-).

Re: F27: how to disable packagekit to download updates

2017-12-02 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 2 Dec 2017 19:21:55 -0500 Todd Zullinger wrote: > While I'm sure some bugs are not viewed by any maintainers, I'd wager > that's far fewer than thoss which are viewed and the maintainer simply > lacks enough time to do anything with it. On the other hand there are the bugs which are on

Re: Recover a Guest win7 on Fedora KVM.

2017-11-30 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 30 Nov 2017 21:28:55 -0200 Lucélio Gomes de Freitas wrote: > How to recover the win7 guest machine? If you have the old root, the virtual machine definitions are located in /etc/libvirt/qemu/*.xml if you copy the old .xml file to the new root, you'll be most of the way there. If the

Re: What the heck is a rc.local stop job?

2017-11-28 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 19:26:49 +0100 francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote: > Why not: 1. Because systemd should work properly and it isn't my job to fix it. 2. Because using rc.local is 10,000 times easier than decrypting systemd dependency operations. 3. If rc.local was actually compatible with

Re: What the heck is a rc.local stop job?

2017-11-28 Thread Tom Horsley
> Some good info at: > > https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/5497 > > So you likely have a result with "running" when doing: > > systemctl status rc-local > > And they suggest: > > The only way to start a daemon in rc.local is by mean of "at -f > now", as atd runs in a separate >

What the heck is a rc.local stop job?

2017-11-28 Thread Tom Horsley
I just rebooted my fedora 27 partition to get new kernel running, and I had to hit the reset button because it stuck here forever: A stop job is running for /etc/rc.d/rc.local Compatibility There is no bloody rc.local script that runs on shutdown, it exists for running stuff at boot. What has

Is there a crypto policy or not?

2017-11-27 Thread Tom Horsley
The /etc/ssh/sshd_config file on my fedora 27 partition says: # To opt out, uncomment a line with redefinition of CRYPTO_POLICY= # variable in /etc/sysconfig/sshd to overwrite the policy. # For more information, see manual page for update-crypto-policies(8). But there is no CRYPTO_POLICY

kernel install looking very sketchy on F27

2017-11-24 Thread Tom Horsley
I just did a dnf update on my fedora 27 partition, and the kernel scriptlet generated even more screwy looking output than it did the last time I got a new kernel install: Running scriptlet: kernel-core-4.13.13-300.fc27.x86_64 374/374 ln: target '/boot/dtb' is not a directory cat: write error:

F26 calibre bug? Qt bug? Or just wait a while?

2017-11-24 Thread Tom Horsley
On fedora 26 I keep getting this: [root@zooty ~]# dnf -y update Last metadata expiration check: 0:12:14 ago on Fri Nov 24 13:31:23 2017. Dependencies resolved. Problem: cannot install both qt5-qtbase-5.7.1-15.fc26.x86_64 and qt5-qtbase-5.9.2-4.fc26.x86_64 - package

Re: pulseaudio MUST DIE!

2017-11-24 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 21:49:17 -0500 Doug wrote: > It may take some serious fiddling > around with the possibilities in PA My most annoying PA experience was it doing something a bit like that all by itself. All I did was apply updates one day, and suddenly only about half the media apps on my

Re: pulseaudio MUST DIE!

2017-11-23 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 21:04:51 -0300 Fernando Cassia wrote: > If there's something like that, I'd like to know about it. There is pacmd which has the world's most obscure interface but does allow you to do things like change the output device (once you spend 2 hours decrypting how to use it). It

Re: SSH_AUTH_SOCK behavior is completely insane

2017-11-22 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 00:06:11 +0100 cen wrote: > Anyone doing linux admin or dev work has more than 5 keys in their .ssh > directory, rendering the agent completely USELESS PIECE OF SHIT PROGRAM. Why? I do lots of linux admin work and I only have two keys.

Windows 10 KVM and reboot

2017-11-21 Thread Tom Horsley
I have a windows 10 qemu/kvm virtual machine hosted on fedora 26. Every time I leave it alone to apply updates (which takes forever), I come back later and find the console saying "Aaugh, there is no boot device!". I go into virt-manager, force a reset, and it boots fine, but now it is only 30%

broken pipe installing kernel?

2017-11-17 Thread Tom Horsley
Just installed f27 workstation and did the first "dnf update" When it is running the script to install the updated kernel, I see this come out on the terminal: cat: broken pipe That does not cause warm fuzzies :-). The new kernel did seem to boot OK and I didn't notice any problems.

Horrible keyboard in virtual machine

2017-11-16 Thread Tom Horsley
I'm trying to install the f27 workstation live image onto disk in a virtual machine (hosted on f26). It is impossible to type the passwords in the root and new user screens. It gets so bogged down it apparently thinks I've been holding down keys which I haven't been holding down. I keep getting

Re: F27: ssh X forwarding not working?

2017-11-15 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 10:49:55 -0600 Richard Shaw wrote: > Anyone know of any changes in F27 that would cause this? I seem to recall reading that X forwarding doesn't work with wayland. Could that be relevant here? ___ users mailing list --

dnf-automatic broken?

2017-11-11 Thread Tom Horsley
My cron job to download updates didn't appear to be working, so I ran dnf-automatic manually and it said it was downloading a bunch of packages. So far, so good. Then I ran dnf -y update And it downloaded the same packages again in order to install them. What the heck is going on here? This

Re: selinux prevents user to log-in

2017-11-08 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 8 Nov 2017 16:46:09 +0100 Lukas Vrabec wrote: > Of course not. > https://stopdisablingselinux.com/ Or, for the devil's advocate viewpoint: http://tomhorsley.com/game/selinux.html :-) ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: network-online.target appears to be very much broken

2017-11-05 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 5 Nov 2017 14:19:47 -0800 Mike Wright wrote: > I like that. Maybe something like a "systemd-networkd-wait-online.d > directory that contains files named for the interfaces that have to be > up and IP'd. Then you find everything stops working when you get another kernel update that

Re: network-online.target appears to be very much broken

2017-11-05 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 05 Nov 2017 08:52:33 -0500 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Why is it so difficult to make sure that a service gets started after all IP > addresses are set up by the system, for services that have this requirement? Because systemd is brought to you by the same people that brought you

Re: Off topic: google hangouts

2017-11-04 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 4 Nov 2017 18:15:31 + (UTC) Amadeus W.M. wrote: > 10) root:~> ls -l /dev/video* > crw-rw+ 1 root video 81, 0 Nov 3 22:37 /dev/video0 Does your user have group "video" access? That's all I can think of. ___ users mailing list --

Re: network-online.target appears to be very much broken

2017-11-04 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 04 Nov 2017 09:57:11 -0400 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Would anyone care to guess what the problem is Systemd has no idea what "up" means for networking. I have to start every service that needs the network to be up from rc.local with a time delay.

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