On Wed, 2013-02-20 at 10:52 +, Gordan Bobic wrote:
3x3TB RAID5 is _brave_, IMO. But hey, it's your data. :)
So, are you saying there should be more drives in the array, or should
he use a different RAID level altogether?
Ranbir
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Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu
Linux 3.7.9-101.fc17.x86_64 x86_64
On 02/20/13 00:52, Gordan Bobic wrote:
On 02/19/2013 10:00 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
[…]
data without a raid are useless
My point was that even RAID is next to useless because it doesn't
protect you against bit-rot.
Stone carving is what we aim? Again!? :)
Can I take this[1] for comfort?
Am 20.02.2013 00:52, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
On 02/19/2013 10:00 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
data without a raid are useless
My point was that even RAID is next to useless because it doesn't protect you
against bit-rot.
it does
and in case of
RAID you have to have at least one full backup
On 20/02/2013 06:22, Steve Ellis wrote:
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Gordan Bobic gor...@bobich.net
mailto:gor...@bobich.net wrote:
On 02/19/2013 10:00 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
No, my experience does not go as far back 6 years for obvious
reasons. My exprience with
On 20/02/2013 08:20, poma wrote:
On 02/20/13 00:52, Gordan Bobic wrote:
On 02/19/2013 10:00 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
[…]
data without a raid are useless
My point was that even RAID is next to useless because it doesn't
protect you against bit-rot.
Stone carving is what we aim? Again!? :)
On 20/02/2013 09:01, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 20.02.2013 00:52, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
On 02/19/2013 10:00 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
data without a raid are useless
My point was that even RAID is next to useless because it doesn't protect you
against bit-rot.
it does
OK, say you have
On 02/20/13 11:55, Gordan Bobic wrote:
[…]
Filesystem features: has_journal ext_attr resize_inode dir_index
filetype needs_recovery extent flex_bg sparse_super large_file huge_file
dir_nlink extra_isize metadata_csum
Checksum: 0x62b7798f
--
Not really. That will keep
On 20/02/2013 18:01, poma wrote:
On 02/20/13 11:55, Gordan Bobic wrote:
[…]
Filesystem features: has_journal ext_attr resize_inode dir_index
filetype needs_recovery extent flex_bg sparse_super large_file huge_file
dir_nlink extra_isize metadata_csum
Checksum: 0x62b7798f
--
On 02/20/13 19:17, Gordan Bobic wrote:
On 20/02/2013 18:01, poma wrote:
On 02/20/13 11:55, Gordan Bobic wrote:
[…]
Filesystem features: has_journal ext_attr resize_inode dir_index
filetype needs_recovery extent flex_bg sparse_super large_file
huge_file
dir_nlink extra_isize
On 18.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
which misalignment?
Aligment to a 4k blocksize. This is what most of the SSDs and advanced
format HDDs use. Both your partitions have to be aligned to 4k block
boundaries and the filesystem you create on top of them must support
the 4k blocksize.
If you do
Am 19.02.2013 16:31, schrieb Heinz Diehl:
On 18.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
which misalignment?
Aligment to a 4k blocksize. This is what most of the SSDs and advanced
format HDDs use. Both your partitions have to be aligned to 4k block
boundaries and the filesystem you create on top
On 17 February 2013 21:12, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
Am 17.02.2013 22:03, schrieb Heinz Diehl:
On 17.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
if wouldn't do this and stick with dd / disk images and use gparted
to resize partitions because if i clone machines i want to have
all
Am 19.02.2013 18:19, schrieb Ian Malone:
On 17 February 2013 21:12, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
Am 17.02.2013 22:03, schrieb Heinz Diehl:
On 17.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
if wouldn't do this and stick with dd / disk images and use gparted
to resize partitions because
On 19.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
i can not remember when the last ext3/ext4
had 512 bytes blocksize
[]
Most of the conventional harddisks have a sectorsize/blocksize of
512/512. All the newer and bigger WD/Seagate drives and SSDs are using
advanced format, which means 512/4096.
To
Am 19.02.2013 18:48, schrieb Heinz Diehl:
On 19.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
i can not remember when the last ext3/ext4
had 512 bytes blocksize
[]
Most of the conventional harddisks have a sectorsize/blocksize of
512/512. All the newer and bigger WD/Seagate drives and SSDs are
On 19/02/2013 17:48, Heinz Diehl wrote:
On 19.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
i can not remember when the last ext3/ext4
had 512 bytes blocksize
[]
Most of the conventional harddisks have a sectorsize/blocksize of
512/512. All the newer and bigger WD/Seagate drives and SSDs are using
Am 19.02.2013 19:19, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
On 19/02/2013 17:48, Heinz Diehl wrote:
On 19.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
i can not remember when the last ext3/ext4
had 512 bytes blocksize
[]
Most of the conventional harddisks have a sectorsize/blocksize of
512/512. All the newer and
On 19.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
and why did you strip the part where i showed you that any of my
filesystems of the last 5 years have a 4 KB blocksize as also
any of my hardware of the last 5 years is newer?
Because what you posted doesn't give any information on how your
partitions are
Am 19.02.2013 19:44, schrieb Heinz Diehl:
On 19.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
and why did you strip the part where i showed you that any of my
filesystems of the last 5 years have a 4 KB blocksize as also
any of my hardware of the last 5 years is newer?
Because what you posted doesn't
On 19/02/2013 18:25, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 19.02.2013 19:19, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
On 19/02/2013 17:48, Heinz Diehl wrote:
On 19.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
i can not remember when the last ext3/ext4
had 512 bytes blocksize
[]
Most of the conventional harddisks have a
On 19/02/2013 18:53, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 19.02.2013 19:44, schrieb Heinz Diehl:
On 19.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
and why did you strip the part where i showed you that any of my
filesystems of the last 5 years have a 4 KB blocksize as also
any of my hardware of the last 5 years is
Am 19.02.2013 20:02, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
what exactly do you need to align on the partitions?
For a start, making sure your RAID implementation puts the metadata
at the end of the disk, rather than the beginning.
my RAID implementation?
LINUX SOFTWARE RAID
and this is how the
On 19/02/2013 19:05, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 19.02.2013 20:02, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
what exactly do you need to align on the partitions?
For a start, making sure your RAID implementation puts the metadata
at the end of the disk, rather than the beginning.
my RAID implementation?
LINUX
Am 19.02.2013 20:24, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
On 19/02/2013 19:05, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 19.02.2013 20:02, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
what exactly do you need to align on the partitions?
For a start, making sure your RAID implementation puts the metadata
at the end of the disk, rather than the
On 19/02/2013 19:42, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 19.02.2013 20:24, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
On 19/02/2013 19:05, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 19.02.2013 20:02, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
what exactly do you need to align on the partitions?
For a start, making sure your RAID implementation puts the
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Martín Marqués
martin.marq...@gmail.com wrote:
How can I pass my whole system from an old SATA disk (which is giving
me some trouble) to a new disk. I have 4 partitions, all of which I
have only passed /home using cp -.a
If you have access to any system running
Am 19.02.2013 20:59, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
On 19/02/2013 19:42, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 19.02.2013 20:24, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
On 19/02/2013 19:05, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 19.02.2013 20:02, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
what exactly do you need to align on the partitions?
For a start, making
Am 19.02.2013 21:12, schrieb Fernando Cassia:
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Martín Marqués
martin.marq...@gmail.com wrote:
How can I pass my whole system from an old SATA disk (which is giving
me some trouble) to a new disk. I have 4 partitions, all of which I
have only passed /home
On 19/02/2013 20:15, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 19.02.2013 20:59, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
On 19/02/2013 19:42, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 19.02.2013 20:24, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
On 19/02/2013 19:05, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 19.02.2013 20:02, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
what exactly do you need to
Am 19.02.2013 21:55, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
To give you an idea, I have a 24/7 server here, with a 4GB rootfs (ext4, no
journal), including /var/log, and gets
yum updated reasonably regularly. It was created in May 2011, and has since
then seen a grand total of 31GB of
writes, according to
On 19/02/2013 21:01, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 19.02.2013 21:55, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
To give you an idea, I have a 24/7 server here, with a 4GB rootfs (ext4, no
journal), including /var/log, and gets
yum updated reasonably regularly. It was created in May 2011, and has since
then seen a
Am 19.02.2013 22:42, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
On 19/02/2013 21:01, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 19.02.2013 21:55, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
To give you an idea, I have a 24/7 server here, with a 4GB rootfs (ext4, no
journal), including /var/log, and gets
yum updated reasonably regularly. It was
2013/2/19 Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com:
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Martín Marqués
martin.marq...@gmail.com wrote:
How can I pass my whole system from an old SATA disk (which is giving
me some trouble) to a new disk. I have 4 partitions, all of which I
have only passed /home using
On 02/19/2013 03:14 PM, Martín Marqués wrote:
Anyway, had lots of problems with the data so I re-installed Fedora (I
was able to get almost all that was in the /home directory).
If you're planning to start doing backups to a flash drive, consider
reformatting it to ext4. Most Linux backup
On 02/19/2013 10:00 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 19.02.2013 22:42, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
On 19/02/2013 21:01, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 19.02.2013 21:55, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
To give you an idea, I have a 24/7 server here, with a 4GB rootfs (ext4, no
journal), including /var/log, and gets
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Gordan Bobic gor...@bobich.net wrote:
On 02/19/2013 10:00 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
No, my experience does not go as far back 6 years for obvious reasons. My
exprience with mechanical disks, however, goes as far back as 25 years, and
I can promise you, they
On 17.02.2013, Martín Marqués wrote:
How can I pass my whole system from an old SATA disk (which is giving
me some trouble) to a new disk.
[]
I'm a bit concerned about the root file system, how to change grub,
and if I'll have trouble with non-regular files from /var.
You can do that
The rsync approach Heinz suggests also has the advantage that you can change
the size of your new partitions in the target system. The other block copying
approaches would need either identically sized partitions or physical disks.
- Greg
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On 02/17/2013 03:30 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote:
On 17.02.2013, Martín Marqués wrote:
How can I pass my whole system from an old SATA disk (which is giving
me some trouble) to a new disk.
[]
I'm a bit concerned about the root file system, how to change grub,
and if I'll have trouble with
On 02/16/2013 04:36 PM, doug wrote:
There is a Linux program called Clonezilla which is supposed to be able
to clone disks.
I've used it several times across the years with excellent results. Not
only can it clone a disk, it can also expand partitions on the fly if
the new disk is bigger
Am 17.02.2013 20:59, schrieb Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.:
On 02/17/2013 03:30 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote:
On 17.02.2013, Martín Marqués wrote:
How can I pass my whole system from an old SATA disk (which is giving
me some trouble) to a new disk.
[]
I'm a bit concerned about the root file system,
On 17.02.2013, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
Just curious, will this apply to moving /_everything _/over from a smaller
drive to a bigger one?...likesay from a 320GB SATA HDD to a 500GB
SATA HDD?will the OS automatically be able to identify and recognize the
free space on the new
On 17.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
if wouldn't do this and stick with dd / disk images and use gparted
to resize partitions because if i clone machines i want to have
all UUID's the same
You can easily change/tailor your UUIDs with tools like tune2fs,
xfs_admin etc.. The dd approach has a
Am 17.02.2013 22:03, schrieb Heinz Diehl:
On 17.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
if wouldn't do this and stick with dd / disk images and use gparted
to resize partitions because if i clone machines i want to have
all UUID's the same
You can easily change/tailor your UUIDs with tools like
On 02/17/2013 03:04 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 17.02.2013 20:59, schrieb Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.:
On 02/17/2013 03:30 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote:
On 17.02.2013, Martín Marqués wrote:
How can I pass my whole system from an old SATA disk (which is giving
me some trouble) to a new disk.
[]
I'm
On Sunday 17 February 2013 05:23 AM, Martín Marqués wrote:
How can I pass my whole system from an old SATA disk (which is giving
me some trouble) to a new disk. I have 4 partitions, all of which I
have only passed /home using cp -.a
I'm a bit concerned about the root file system, how to change
How can I pass my whole system from an old SATA disk (which is giving
me some trouble) to a new disk. I have 4 partitions, all of which I
have only passed /home using cp -.a
I'm a bit concerned about the root file system, how to change grub,
and if I'll have trouble with non-regular files from
On 02/16/2013 06:53 PM, Martín Marqués wrote:
How can I pass my whole system from an old SATA disk (which is giving
me some trouble) to a new disk. I have 4 partitions, all of which I
have only passed /home using cp -.a
I'm a bit concerned about the root file system, how to change grub,
and if
On 02/16/2013 06:53 PM, Martín Marqués wrote:
How can I pass my whole system from an old SATA disk (which is giving
me some trouble) to a new disk. I have 4 partitions, all of which I
have only passed /home using cp -.a
I'm a bit concerned about the root file system, how to change grub,
and if
Am 17.02.2013 01:36, schrieb doug:
On 02/16/2013 06:53 PM, Martín Marqués wrote:
How can I pass my whole system from an old SATA disk (which is giving
me some trouble) to a new disk. I have 4 partitions, all of which I
have only passed /home using cp -.a
I'm a bit concerned about the root
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On 02/16/2013 06:53 PM, Martín Marqués wrote:
How can I pass my whole system from an old SATA disk (which is giving
me some trouble) to a new disk. I have 4
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Am 17.02.2013 01:36, schrieb doug:
On 02/16/2013 06:53 PM, Martín Marqués wrote:
How can I pass my whole system from an old SATA disk (which is giving
me
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