Re: Laptop Touchscreen (was: Re: Roadmap 2021)

2021-01-19 Thread Johannes Kliemann
Hi John, > From what I've read, PC laptop touchscreens and pens generate USB HID > events, so it shouldn't be necessary to write low-level drivers for each > model. Many PC platform touchscreens (and also some touchpads) use the I2C HID [1] interface. You may have a look into this protocol sinc

Re: Laptop Touchscreen (was: Re: Roadmap 2021)

2021-01-19 Thread Alexander Boettcher
On 18.01.21 18:40, John J. Karcher wrote: >>> What would be involved with bringing touchscreen support to the PC platform? >>> >>> I don't know if anyone is familiar with the interface(s) for active pens, >>> which would be the icing on the cake, but it would be really nice to be >>> able to test

Re: Roadmap 2021

2021-01-18 Thread Piotr Tworek
On Mon, 2021-01-18 at 16:11 +0100, Sebastian Sumpf wrote: > Hi Piotr, > > On 1/16/21 10:03 AM, Piotr Tworek wrote: > > The part of the roadmap that interests me the most is the GPU > > support > > part. This is something I'm really interested in and I do already > > have > > working mesa 20.1 port

Re: Laptop Touchscreen (was: Re: Roadmap 2021)

2021-01-18 Thread John J. Karcher
On 1/5/21 9:17 AM, Alexander Boettcher wrote: Hello, On 04.01.21 22:47, John J. Karcher wrote: [snip] What would be involved with bringing touchscreen support to the PC platform? I don't know if anyone is familiar with the interface(s) for active pens, which would be the icing on the cake,

Re: Roadmap 2021

2021-01-18 Thread Sebastian Sumpf
Hi Piotr, On 1/16/21 10:03 AM, Piotr Tworek wrote: > The part of the roadmap that interests me the most is the GPU support > part. This is something I'm really interested in and I do already have > working mesa 20.1 port for Genode along with both kernel and userspace > driver parts targetting qem

Re: Roadmap 2021

2021-01-16 Thread Piotr Tworek
The part of the roadmap that interests me the most is the GPU support part. This is something I'm really interested in and I do already have working mesa 20.1 port for Genode along with both kernel and userspace driver parts targetting qemu virtual GPU (virgl). The kernel part was borrowed from Lin

Re: Roadmap 2021

2021-01-16 Thread Piotr Tworek
The part of the roadmap that interests me the most is the GPU support part. This is something I'm really interested in and I do already have working mesa 20.1 port for Genode along with both kernel and userspace driver parts targetting qemu virtual GPU (virgl). The kernel part was borrowed from Lin

Re: Roadmap 2021

2021-01-15 Thread Christian Helmuth
Hello Michael, On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 16:18:35 CET, Michael Grunditz wrote: > Reading the roadmap from the linked page. With Pine64 do you mean > Allwinner A64 soc? Pine64 is the name of the company producing devices with > at least two ARM socs and a couple of smaller risciv. You're right, th

Re: Roadmap 2021

2021-01-15 Thread Michael Grunditz
Reading the roadmap from the linked page. With Pine64 do you mean Allwinner A64 soc? Pine64 is the name of the company producing devices with at least two ARM socs and a couple of smaller risciv. Den fre 15 jan. 2021 14:26Norman Feske skrev: > Dear Genode community, > > I want to thank every

Re: Roadmap 2021

2021-01-15 Thread Norman Feske
Dear Genode community, I want to thank everyone of you who participated in the road-map discussion. Your enthusiasm and interest in such a variety of topics is delightful! I have now tried to condense all this information into our road map for this year: https://genode.org/about/road-map Even

Re: Roadmap 2021

2021-01-13 Thread Norman Feske
Hi Ivan, thank you so much for joining the road-map discussion, and in particular for your enthusiasm about the Genode-on-Pinephone topic! > I was fascinated to read about Norman's goal to have a Genode-based > phone, especially Pinephone. Because last year I spent to launch > Genode on Pinephone

Re: Roadmap 2021

2021-01-11 Thread Ivan Loskutov
Hi Genodians, I want to share my goals for 2021 too. I was fascinated to read about Norman's goal to have a Genode-based phone, especially Pinephone. Because last year I spent to launch Genode on Pinephone. My 2020 goal was to have a simple working prototype that could send and receive SMS at le

Re: Laptop Touchscreen (was: Re: Roadmap 2021)

2021-01-05 Thread Alexander Boettcher
Hello, On 04.01.21 22:47, John J. Karcher wrote: > On 1/4/21 11:33 AM, Sebastian Sumpf wrote: >> >> Hi folks, >> >> my main topics for 2020 have been Android pass through support on iMX8, >> touch screen and OLED display drivers for the same platform, as well as >> LTE modem support for Genode. >

Re: Roadmap 2021

2021-01-04 Thread Sid Hussmann
Hi Norman, > I think this mechanism has a lot of potential. E.g., for simplifying > scenarios like the ssh-exec server. > > Since you linked the issue, would now be a good time for a wrap-up, > considering the feature for staging? Thank you. I share your view on the potential of this feature. Ye

Laptop Touchscreen (was: Re: Roadmap 2021)

2021-01-04 Thread John J. Karcher
On 1/4/21 11:33 AM, Sebastian Sumpf wrote: Hi folks, my main topics for 2020 have been Android pass through support on iMX8, touch screen and OLED display drivers for the same platform, as well as LTE modem support for Genode. This reminds me of something I meant to ask about when you posted

Re: Roadmap 2021

2021-01-04 Thread Sebastian Sumpf
Hi folks, my main topics for 2020 have been Android pass through support on iMX8, touch screen and OLED display drivers for the same platform, as well as LTE modem support for Genode. Last year Genode made great progress where I especially want to mention the WebEngine and the Falcon Browser as o

Re: Roadmap 2021

2021-01-04 Thread Norman Feske
Hi Sid, thank you for presenting your review of the past year and your outlook for 2021. > Personally, I finished the named pipe feature of the vfs/pipe plugin to > my liking [1]. The main motivation behind it was to easily stream data > from pure Genode components to libc components via file-sys

Re: Roadmap 2021

2021-01-04 Thread Norman Feske
Hi Stefan, thank you for sharing your perspective, which happens to be perfectly aligned with my original posting. > I agree with your perception that we did not achieved to reach a new, > wide audience for Genode topics. Anyway, I see signs for a slowly, but > consistently growing ecosystem arou

Re: Roadmap 2021

2021-01-04 Thread Josef Söntgen
Hello fellow Genodians, TL;DR the better part of the last year I worked on the CBE, while doing some driver refactoring (NVMe and PCI Audio) in between. Some things I originally planned to work on, namely USB Audio support and a lwext4 VFS-plugin, got somewhat side-lined. But I could dig up my old

Re: Roadmap 2021

2021-01-04 Thread Norman Feske
Hi Martin, it is fascinating to see all those areas of your work in review. I'm very grateful that you took the block-encryption topic under your wings. Now I am as eager as you to see it become a natural part of Sculpt, similar to how we enjoy the NIC router today. > My plans so far for 2021 >

Re: Roadmap 2021

2021-01-03 Thread John J. Karcher
Just a quick note... I know I'm not alone in always enjoying the Genodians.org articles by the Genode devs. Please keep them coming! But after reading all the interesting ideas (RISC OS, Haiku, IDE integration, RISC-V, hardware ports, software ports, etc., etc.), I would just like to encour

Re: Roadmap 2021

2021-01-03 Thread Christian Prochaska
Hello, my main work topic of 2020 has been porting QtWebEngine and the Falkon web browser to Genode, which also involved the move to building everything Qt with qmake and making it possible to build Qt applications with the Goa tool. The current state of the web browser is already quite usable,

Re: Roadmap 2021

2020-12-24 Thread Sid Hussmann
Dear Genodians, Looking back on this crazy year, it is again impressive what the Genode community achieved. Ranging from ARMv8 support, over to the vastly improved libc, its thread safety, and then Martin's Consistent Block Encrypter (CBE)... Regarding the width of the audience, I believe one

Re: Roadmap 2021

2020-12-22 Thread Tomasz Gajewski
Norman Feske writes: > Even though there was a brief period of activity when Stefan made some > progress, the topic [1] became stale again. I understand the slip of > motivation. Even though I have enabled the Rpi (including working USB) > originally, I would not consider picking it up again in m

Re: Roadmap 2021

2020-12-22 Thread Norman Feske
Hi John, thank you for the enthusiastic feedback. :-) > There are obviously many areas to focus on (too many for one person!), > but a couple that leap off the page for me are: 1) seeing what creative > ideas the VFS system might support, and 2) using the Nitpicker UI to > create low-TCB front-en

Re: Roadmap 2021

2020-12-22 Thread Norman Feske
Hi Tomasz, thank you very much for your elaborate posting. Your insightful reflections are an interesting read. > In my roadmap for 2020 I stated two areas in which I'm going to > work. First was continuing work for supporting different rpi > devices. Unfortunately this work did not progress much

Re: Roadmap 2021

2020-12-21 Thread Christian Helmuth
Dear Genodians, first (as each X-mas in the past years) thanks to Norman for opening the roadmap discussion with a thorough reflection of activities and achievements of 2020. On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 14:58:49 CET, Norman Feske wrote: > How do you perceive the outcome of the year? Looking at my ro

Re: Roadmap 2021

2020-12-21 Thread Martin Stein
Hi John, El 21.12.20 a las 03:33, John J. Karcher escribió: > One last wish, if I may: to have Spunky promoted to a first-class > kernel.  :^) Thanks for that motivational poke! I'll definitely work at this in 2021. Cheers, Martin ___ Genode users ma

Re: Roadmap 2021

2020-12-21 Thread Stefan Kalkowski
Dear Genode community, thank you Norman for initiating the roadmap debate again, and for sharing your thoughts. Here is my input to it. On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 02:58:49PM +0100, Norman Feske wrote: > > What's your perspective? > > > For drafting the road map of next yea

Re: Roadmap 2021

2020-12-21 Thread Martin Stein
Hi Genodians, Thanks Norman for the Roadmap reminder! And thanks to you and all the other community members for your detailed insight in your very motivating plans! I'll have a try: Review 2020 === Kernels ~~~ * Spunky kernel written entirely in Ada * Spunky kernel SPARK compliance

Re: Roadmap 2021

2020-12-21 Thread Norman Feske
Hi Alex, thanks for joining the discussion. I appreciate your review and thoughts! Remembering that you suggested the load-balancing topic for the 2020 road map in the first place, it is particularly good to see how it got interwoven with the challenges that came with the Scrcpy topic. What a nic

Re: Roadmap 2021

2020-12-21 Thread Norman Feske
Hi Cedric, great to see a lifesign of you! On 19.12.20 14:55, ttco...@netcourrier.com wrote: > As to me, I can't contribute much to the discussion unfortunately : > Genode has already been making bounds and leaps in the areas that count > for me (AMD compatibility, HDA driver etc) whereas I've be

Re: Roadmap 2021

2020-12-21 Thread Norman Feske
Hi Colin, thank you for having taken the time to present you perspective! On 19.12.20 05:45, Colin Parker wrote: >    As a hobbyist who's been following Genode for about a year now (I was > running Sculpt on my home computer for a few months), I thought I would > offer a few thoughts. Since I mos

Re: Roadmap 2021

2020-12-20 Thread John J. Karcher
On 12/18/20 8:58 AM, Norman Feske wrote: Dear Genode community, the end of the strange year 2020 comes in sight. So now it is time to kick off our annual road-map discussion. I'll keep up with our tradition of reviewing the past 12 months from my personal perspective, dropping my ideas for the u

Re: Roadmap 2021

2020-12-20 Thread Tomasz Gajewski
Hello everyone, annual discussion about roadmap has been started a little earlier than last year and that forces me to say a little about my current work around Genode which is not yet ready to be published (possibly I need a week or two). More about it later in summary of current year and my p

Re: Roadmap 2021

2020-12-19 Thread Norman Feske
Hi Johannes, thank you for chiming in! All what you write is just perfectly aligned with my plans. That is so cool to read. On 18.12.20 19:00, Johannes Schlatow wrote: > Besides the technological obstacles such as porting device drivers, > there is also the question of usability. I think a basic

Re: Roadmap 2021

2020-12-19 Thread Alexander Boettcher
Hello Genodians, a year is almost over and here are my two cents to the roadmap review and wish list. First, I want to say that I'm really proud about the accomplished technical work by Genode over the whole year. Getting Sculpt OS to the i.MX8 board with all the device drivers running is not g

Re: Roadmap 2021

2020-12-19 Thread Alexander Boettcher
Hello Genodians, a year is almost over and here are my two cents to the roadmap review and wish list. First, I want to say that I'm really proud about the accomplished technical work by Genode over the whole year. Getting Sculpt OS to the i.MX8 board with all the device drivers running is not g

Re: Roadmap 2021

2020-12-19 Thread ttcoder
Hi Genodians, > drivers, I guess). Example 3 - When the FB driver crashes, the rest of the > system is resilient >and continues to run. > But, of course this is nearly useless because there is >no way to reset >the driver. Given my understanding of the component-based architecture, it >seems

Re: Roadmap 2021

2020-12-19 Thread Michael Grunditz
Hi! Sorry for topposting! Thanks for everything made in 2020 and exiting (as always ) thoughts about 2021. I decided to send out my own "roadmap" instead of polluting this thread. The best thing with Genode imho is that it doesn't force me of what I want to run. If I need base-hw with a couple of

Re: Roadmap 2021

2020-12-18 Thread Colin Parker
Hi Everybody, As a hobbyist who's been following Genode for about a year now (I was running Sculpt on my home computer for a few months), I thought I would offer a few thoughts. Since I mostly do stuff for fun and at a slow pace, I don't expect to be influential in any serious way, but perhaps t

Re: Roadmap 2021

2020-12-18 Thread Johannes Schlatow
Hi all, I like Norman's vision of having a Genode-based mobile phone by the end of 2021 and am stoked to contribute to this mission. I almost ordered a pinephone some weeks ago but talked myself out of it because I was not ready to put in a lot of work. Yet, the perspective of running Genode on th

Roadmap 2021

2020-12-18 Thread Norman Feske
Dear Genode community, the end of the strange year 2020 comes in sight. So now it is time to kick off our annual road-map discussion. I'll keep up with our tradition of reviewing the past 12 months from my personal perspective, dropping my ideas for the upcoming year, and inviting you to share you