[users] Re: Microsoft Expands List of Formats Supported in Microsoft Office: Move enhances customer choice and interoperability with Microsoft's flagship productivity suite.

2008-05-23 Thread Jim Allan
John W Kennedy wrote: ODBC is, by definition, a many-languages-to-many-databases interface. If it had the kind of proprietary crap that Microsoft traditionally smears all over standards, it wouldn't work at all. You’ve just shown that Microsoft does not always produce broken standards. Micro

Re: [users] Re: Microsoft Expands List of Formats Supported in Microsoft Office: Move enhances customer choice and interoperability with Microsoft's flagship productivity suite.

2008-05-23 Thread John W Kennedy
On May 23, 2008, at 2:54 PM, Jim Allan wrote: John W Kennedy wrote: If you have something to blame Microsoft for, then document it, as people have for the OOXML fiasco or discrepancies from standard HTML, or some of their dirty tricks or mistatements. Your comment about broken glue doesn’t

[users] Re: Microsoft Expands List of Formats Supported in Microsoft Office: Move enhances customer choice and interoperability with Microsoft's flagship productivity suite.

2008-05-23 Thread Jim Allan
John W Kennedy wrote: On May 23, 2008, at 10:18 AM, Jim Allan wrote: Wasn’t it Microsoft who invented ODBC which has been generally adopted in the Linux and Unix world as well? It's glue. Not even Microsoft can sell broken glue. How has Microsoft screwed up Unicode? (Yes, I am aware that the

Re: [users] Re: Microsoft Expands List of Formats Supported in Microsoft Office: Move enhances customer choice and interoperability with Microsoft's flagship productivity suite.

2008-05-23 Thread John W Kennedy
On May 23, 2008, at 10:18 AM, Jim Allan wrote: Wasn’t it Microsoft who invented ODBC which has been generally adopted in the Linux and Unix world as well? It's glue. Not even Microsoft can sell broken glue. How has Microsoft screwed up Unicode? (Yes, I am aware that the identify the \ chara

Re: [users] Re: Microsoft Expands List of Formats Supported in Microsoft Office: Move enhances customer choice and interoperability with Microsoft's flagship productivity suite.

2008-05-23 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/5/23 Jim Allan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> I don't see where MS was accused of ruining Unicode. Where was that >> stated, other than in general statements regarding the company? > > Well, when people accuse Microsoft of destroying every standard, Unicode > should surely be counted among them. > I

Re: [users] Re: Microsoft Expands List of Formats Supported in Microsoft Office: Move enhances customer choice and interoperability with Microsoft's flagship productivity suite.

2008-05-23 Thread Ganesha Bhaskara
Jim Allan wrote: Dotan Cohen wrote: 2008/5/23 Michael Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Microsoft has never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity to foul up interoperability. I so like that... I intend to quote you on that one with your permission. It is not mine: http://en.wikiquote.org/wik

[users] Re: Microsoft Expands List of Formats Supported in Microsoft Office: Move enhances customer choice and interoperability with Microsoft's flagship productivity suite.

2008-05-23 Thread Jim Allan
Dotan Cohen wrote: I don't see where MS was accused of ruining Unicode. Where was that stated, other than in general statements regarding the company? Well, when people accuse Microsoft of destroying every standard, Unicode should surely be counted among them. Jim Allan -

Re: [users] Re: Microsoft Expands List of Formats Supported in Microsoft Office: Move enhances customer choice and interoperability with Microsoft's flagship productivity suite.

2008-05-23 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/5/23 Jim Allan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Wasn't it Microsoft who invented ODBC which has been generally adopted in > the Linux and Unix world as well? As well as other technologies now in common use in *nix OSes. > How has Microsoft screwed up Unicode? (Yes, I am aware that the identify the > \

[users] Re: Microsoft Expands List of Formats Supported in Microsoft Office: Move enhances customer choice and interoperability with Microsoft's flagship productivity suite.

2008-05-23 Thread Jim Allan
Dotan Cohen wrote: 2008/5/23 Michael Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Microsoft has never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity to foul up interoperability. I so like that... I intend to quote you on that one with your permission. It is not mine: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Abba_Eban Was