Re: Qpid Dispatch Router component

2013-10-14 Thread Gordon Sim
It was pointed out to me that sloppy wording on my part may have led to an impression other than the one intended. At the risk of digging a bigger hole, I'd like to try to correct that. On 10/11/2013 12:36 PM, Gordon Sim wrote: As I said before, my interest is not in reforming OASIS. My

Re: Qpid Dispatch Router component

2013-10-12 Thread Fraser Adams
On the topic of names and perhaps following the same track as particles with Proton, can I suggest Boson in honour of the forthcoming Nobel award to Professor Peter Higgs. It kind of seems appropriate on a couple of levels? Frase On 11/10/13 13:47, Gordon Sim wrote: On 10/11/2013 01:32 PM,

Re: Qpid Dispatch Router component

2013-10-12 Thread Fraser Adams
I'd like to wade in slightly here if I may as I've been following this thread with great interest. I guess that I might be in a vaguely interesting position as although my employers are interested in and make use of AMQP/Qpid my contributions to this group have been entirely at a personal

Re: Qpid AMQP 1.0 - How does it all hang together? - was Re: Qpid Dispatch Router component

2013-10-10 Thread Rob Godfrey
This is an excellent post which I think highlights the need for us to properly define the scopes of our current components, their roadmaps, and the vision we have for Qpid and AMQP 1.0. I know some people have already replied in thread, but would it seem like a good idea if we used these

Re: Qpid Dispatch Router component

2013-10-10 Thread Gordon Sim
On 10/10/2013 09:38 AM, Rob Godfrey wrote: My main concern is that I believe that Qpid should be primarily directed at implementing AMQP standards, and building resuable toolkits and components that fit into any AMQP network. I'd be very concerned if we were inventing alternative management

Re: Qpid Dispatch Router component

2013-10-10 Thread Rob Godfrey
On 10 October 2013 12:46, Gordon Sim g...@redhat.com wrote: On 10/10/2013 10:58 AM, Rob Godfrey wrote: I think the point of Qpid (vs. any other messaging implementation at Apache or elsewhere) is to implement the AMQP specification. I have no disagreement when the AMQP specification is

Re: Qpid Dispatch Router component

2013-10-10 Thread Ted Ross
On 10/10/2013 11:20 AM, Rob Godfrey wrote: On 10 October 2013 15:35, Ted Ross tr...@redhat.com wrote: On 10/10/2013 04:38 AM, Rob Godfrey wrote: My main concern is that I believe that Qpid should be primarily directed at implementing AMQP standards, and building resuable toolkits and

RE: Qpid Dispatch Router component

2013-10-10 Thread Steve Huston
Hi guys, -Original Message- From: Rob Godfrey [mailto:rob.j.godf...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 11:21 AM To: users@qpid.apache.org Subject: Re: Qpid Dispatch Router component On 10 October 2013 15:35, Ted Ross tr...@redhat.com wrote: On 10/10/2013 04:38 AM

Qpid AMQP 1.0 - How does it all hang together? - was Re: Qpid Dispatch Router component

2013-10-09 Thread Fraser Adams
Hey all, The thread below on the dev list has prompted me to ask something that I've tentatively mentioned before, but am still a bit embarrassed to raise 'cause it probably makes me seem a bit stupid :-( here goes anyway. So I've kind of held off going down the AMQP 1.0 path partly due

Re: Qpid AMQP 1.0 - How does it all hang together? - was Re: Qpid Dispatch Router component

2013-10-09 Thread Ted Ross
Frase, This is an excellent post, and I believe quite relevant. I'll try to address your questions at an abstract level rather than point-by-point. Your confusion is not unique, but quite justified. AMQP 1.0 is simply a wire-level protocol specification for symmetric point-to-point data

Re: Qpid AMQP 1.0 - How does it all hang together? - was Re: Qpid Dispatch Router component

2013-10-09 Thread William Henry
Great post! +1. The community needs to do more to explain, document, and promote. William - Original Message - Hey all, The thread below on the dev list has prompted me to ask something that I've tentatively mentioned before, but am still a bit embarrassed to raise 'cause it

Re: Qpid AMQP 1.0 - How does it all hang together? - was Re: Qpid Dispatch Router component

2013-10-09 Thread William Henry
Ted, Can someone add your text to the community web pages and link parts to appropriate pages? i.e. can we use Frase's and your posts to augment the community pages rather than just leaving here in list archives? William - Original Message - Frase, This is an excellent post,

Re: Qpid AMQP 1.0 - How does it all hang together? - was Re: Qpid Dispatch Router component

2013-10-09 Thread Ted Ross
Now, to answer your actual questions... See inline below. On 10/09/2013 02:22 PM, Fraser Adams wrote: Hey all, The thread below on the dev list has prompted me to ask something that I've tentatively mentioned before, but am still a bit embarrassed to raise 'cause it probably makes me seem a