On 10/10/2013 09:38 AM, Rob Godfrey wrote:
My main concern is that I believe that Qpid should be primarily directed at
implementing AMQP standards, and building resuable toolkits and components
that fit into any AMQP network.  I'd be very concerned if we were inventing
alternative management protocols, or building components that only
interoperated with other Qpid tools.

So, personally I'd like to see statement around components saying that they
will be fully implementing emerging AMQP Management, AMQP addressing, etc.
standards, and that we as a project then ensure we stick to these goals.

Interoperability with other AMQP compliant components both in and out of Qpid and Apache is certainly key. That is what AMQP is all about and what Qpid should be about.

Faithful implementation of the existing AMQP specification is clearly a requirement as that is central to the charter of the project. Where any auxiliary or emerging specifications are adopted by a component, whether they are AMQP related or not, they should be compliant with that.

However, having a general policy where all Qpid components are required to implement whatever 'emerging standards' come out of the OASIS AMQP TCs is not something I am comfortable with.

The Qpid community as a whole needs to have a say in how future features will work through an open, collaborative process (open to _anyone_, even those primarily involved with other AMQP related projects or products).

Personally I think this would be better for AMQP as well. Allowing and encouraging the emergence of grass-roots driven, de-facto 'standards' developed in and between open, collaborative and transparent communities and backed up by proven interoperable implementations, which can then form the basis for official de-jure standardisation.

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