Re: Question about Ident

2005-11-09 Thread lmarcilly
Sorry but i really need help... Since i use spamassassin on a proxy, is it possible to apply options according to the username? I know that just with spamassassin, configuration is in the home of the user, but on a proxy? Thanks a lot for your help. lm. Original Message

Re: per-user or global bayes (was: HUGE bayes DB (non-sitewide) advice?)

2005-11-09 Thread Michael Monnerie
On Mittwoch, 9. November 2005 08:04 Gary W. Smith wrote: My users are quite happy with overall markup of the spam.  We occasionally get a HAM marked as SPAM.  We have an odd client base though. The question is: when to use global and when per-user bayes? On our server, we have people of

RE: HUGE bayes DB (non-sitewide) advice?

2005-11-09 Thread email builder
Our production database for a large number of emails (but using site wide) is about 40mb. What is your bayes_expiry_max_db_size set to? Do you feel that it has been enough to effectively capture your various user email habits? Default. How can you be running the default value,

RE: More spam getting through

2005-11-09 Thread Rikhardur.EGILSSON
I only got my hands on 3 of those, and they all have a very similar Message-IDs Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have put the following on 2 of our SA servers, thanks for your contribution: bodyL_DRUGS11 /([CVAXP] ){5}/

Re: HUGE bayes DB (non-sitewide) advice?

2005-11-09 Thread email builder
I guess the relevant point for this thread is that I don't necessarily think that this is the silver bullet as implied. Even if you use a high-availability clustering technology that can mirror writes and reads, you are STILL dealing with the possibility of a database that is just

Re: OT: DB connections coming from unqualified hostname

2005-11-09 Thread Dhawal Doshy
email builder wrote: Hello, When we connect to our bayes/awl/user_scores databases, the connections are being made by clients with unqualified hostnames. If we try to use GRANTs such as 'user'@'%.example.com', connections are refused since only the hostname portion is being used to connect I

Re: HUGE bayes DB (non-sitewide) advice?

2005-11-09 Thread Michael Parker
email builder wrote: How can you be running the default value, when the manual says that 15 tokens is only 8MB?? How do you end up with 40MB of data?: bayes_expiry_max_db_size (default: 15) What should be the maximum size of the Bayes tokens database? When expiry occurs, the Bayes

Re: HUGE bayes DB (non-sitewide) advice?

2005-11-09 Thread Michael Parker
Gary W. Smith wrote: Just my $0.02 but if it's in MySQL then you really don't need to expire each one. You can write a custom script that will do this. When you break it down, expire is really just finding those tokens that are beyond the threshold where id=x and time=y. The resultant would

RE: More spam getting through

2005-11-09 Thread Pierre Thomson
List Mail User wrote: ... I believe some people using the SARE rules report ~100 points for them (after half a day or so, they fail every net test, and very many small rules). Also, the typical ones are delivered by zombies, so often the DUL tests hit right away, and if you can afford to

Re: HUGE bayes DB (non-sitewide) advice?

2005-11-09 Thread Michael Parker
email builder wrote: Well, I know there have to be some admins out there who have a lot of users and do not use sitewide bayes.. RIGHT? See original email snippet at bottom. I believe that there are a few running bayes is a similar configuration. It certainly is a tough problem. I

RE: More spam getting through

2005-11-09 Thread Bowie Bailey
From: Loren Wilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If anyone can formulate a regex to catch these letters in any order, while avoiding a repeating sequence like A A A A A , it would make this a safer rule. SARE has quite a number of rules specifically to catch these table drug spams. Which

RE: More spam getting through

2005-11-09 Thread List Mail User
... List Mail User wrote: ... I believe some people using the SARE rules report ~100 points for them (after half a day or so, they fail every net test, and very many small rules). Also, the typical ones are delivered by zombies, so often the DUL tests hit right away, and if you can afford

RE: More spam getting through

2005-11-09 Thread Pierre Thomson
List Mail User wrote: ... List Mail User wrote: ... I believe some people using the SARE rules report ~100 points for them (after half a day or so, they fail every net test, and very many small rules). Also, the typical ones are delivered by zombies, so often the DUL tests hit right

RE: HUGE bayes DB (non-sitewide) advice?

2005-11-09 Thread Gary W. Smith
Not sure, that's just what phpmyadmin is reporting. I'll check again. I can't remember if the DB is in double byte or not. One of my guys tweaked it for some other little databases on the same box. -Original Message- From: email builder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday,

RE: HUGE bayes DB (non-sitewide) advice?

2005-11-09 Thread Gary W. Smith
You're right, my guy gave me the size of bayes + awl. The real number is 14.5mb. (with an overhead of 3.2mb). -Original Message- From: Gary W. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:00 AM To: email builder; users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: RE: HUGE

RE: More spam getting through

2005-11-09 Thread Chris Santerre
-Original Message- From: Rosenbaum, Larry M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 10:45 AM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: RE: More spam getting through From: Loren Wilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not sure if Loren's rules made it

RE: More spam getting through

2005-11-09 Thread List Mail User
... do not use SARE tests, just check, read and try to follow what they are doing). Paul, I'm not really THAT badly off; I run all default 3.1.0 tests plus Bayes and DCC, three RBL's, URIBL/SURBL, some SARE rule sets and a bunch of local rules. I do MTA-level blocking with Spamhaus

RE: HUGE bayes DB (non-sitewide) advice?

2005-11-09 Thread email builder
Thanks a lot for checking, Gary! --- Gary W. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're right, my guy gave me the size of bayes + awl. The real number is 14.5mb. (with an overhead of 3.2mb). Not sure, that's just what phpmyadmin is reporting. I'll check again. I can't remember if the DB is

RE: More spam getting through

2005-11-09 Thread Pierre Thomson
List Mail User wrote: ... I'm not really THAT badly off; I run all default 3.1.0 tests plus Bayes and DCC, three RBL's, URIBL/SURBL, some SARE rule sets and a bunch of local rules. I do MTA-level blocking with Spamhaus SBL-XBL, which knocks off at least half the junk before it reaches SA.

Re: OT: DB connections coming from unqualified hostname

2005-11-09 Thread email builder
When we connect to our bayes/awl/user_scores databases, the connections are being made by clients with unqualified hostnames. If we try to use GRANTs such as 'user'@'%.example.com', connections are refused since only the hostname portion is being used to connect I guess. For example,

RE: More spam getting through

2005-11-09 Thread List Mail User
... Pierre, I does seem that the digests plus Bayes are the best defense against these. Just a few minutes ago another arrived: Y 15 -

Can't locate object method

2005-11-09 Thread Jeffrey Duncan
Hello. I am getting the following in my logs and wonder if anyone can help with the problem: Nov 9 12:56:01 server spamd[1845]: Failed to run __ENV_AND_HDR_FROM_MATCH SpamAssassin test, skipping:__(Can't locate object method check_for_matching_env_and_hdr_from via package

Re: Can't locate object method

2005-11-09 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jeffrey Duncan writes: Hello. I am getting the following in my logs and wonder if anyone can help with the problem: Nov 9 12:56:01 server spamd[1845]: Failed to run __ENV_AND_HDR_FROM_MATCH SpamAssassin test, skipping:__(Can't locate

Re: Spam, Block: Good to know my representative is spamming..

2005-11-09 Thread Evan Platt
At 12:34 PM 11/9/2005, you wrote: Just received the below crap in from Anna Eshoo in my inbox. Woops, should have gone to Spam-L, the anti-spam list. But.. Good fodder to set up filters for. :) Evan

Re: Can't locate object method

2005-11-09 Thread Jeffrey Duncan
Thanks, What do you mean resolve? Here is the output ... /home/spamd /home/spamd/.spamassassin /home/spamd/.spamassassin/auto-whitelist /home/spamd/.spamassassin/bayes_toks /home/spamd/.spamassassin/bayes_seen /home/spamd/.bash_profile /home/spamd/.bash_logout /home/spamd/.bashrc

tests=none solved?

2005-11-09 Thread karlp
Hopefully my 'fix' is valid and can be used by others who have posted this problem and feel they haven't received enough, or correct, help. After just learning more about SA, (V3.1.0 on 2 servers), I decided to make a couple changes. The first was to increase the number of daemons kicked off at

Trusted_networks aren't trusted

2005-11-09 Thread Mike Batchelor
I have SA 3.1.0 running from MD 2.38 in a relay situation on RHEL3.5. I have worked my problem down to a simple configuration, which does not seem to work as expected. I have a single host listed in trusted_neworks, and using spamassassin from the command line on some spam and ham samples, I

RE: Trusted_networks aren't trusted

2005-11-09 Thread Bowie Bailey
From: Mike Batchelor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have SA 3.1.0 running from MD 2.38 in a relay situation on RHEL3.5. I have worked my problem down to a simple configuration, which does not seem to work as expected. I have a single host listed in trusted_neworks, and using spamassassin

Re: OT: DB connections coming from unqualified hostname

2005-11-09 Thread email builder
When we connect to our bayes/awl/user_scores databases, the connections are being made by clients with unqualified hostnames. If we try to use GRANTs such as 'user'@'%.example.com', connections are refused since only the hostname portion is being used to connect I guess. For

Re: Trusted_networks aren't trusted

2005-11-09 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Bowie Bailey wrote: From: Mike Batchelor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have SA 3.1.0 running from MD 2.38 in a relay situation on RHEL3.5. I have worked my problem down to a simple configuration, which does not seem to work as expected. I have a single host listed in trusted_neworks, and using

Re: Trusted_networks aren't trusted

2005-11-09 Thread Mike Batchelor
On 11/9/05, Daryl C. W. O'Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bowie Bailey wrote: Trust only extends back as far as an unbroken chain of trusted servers. Once you find one untrusted server, nothing beyond that can be trusted. Bowie Bowie's got it. You've got to add your RFC1918 numbered

Re: OT: DB connections coming from unqualified hostname

2005-11-09 Thread email builder
--- email builder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When we connect to our bayes/awl/user_scores databases, the connections are being made by clients with unqualified hostnames. If we try to use GRANTs such as 'user'@'%.example.com', connections are refused since only the

First time home made rule not doing what I was thinkin....

2005-11-09 Thread James Lay
Here's the rule: bodyGATEWAY_001 /tripod\.com/i score 5 describematch tripod.com Here's the result: Nov 9 13:42:03 gateway spamd[17880]: spamd: result: . -2 -ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00,GATEWAY_001

Re: First time home made rule not doing what I was thinkin....

2005-11-09 Thread Matt Kettler
James Lay wrote: Here's the rule: body GATEWAY_001 /tripod\.com/i score 5 describe match tripod.com Here's the result: Nov 9 13:42:03 gateway spamd[17880]: spamd: result: . -2 -ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00,GATEWAY_001

RE: First time home made rule not doing what I was thinkin....

2005-11-09 Thread Bowie Bailey
From: James Lay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Here's the rule: body GATEWAY_001 /tripod\.com/i score 5 describe match tripod.com Here's the result: Nov 9 13:42:03 gateway spamd[17880]: spamd: result: . -2 -ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00,GATEWAY_001

Re: First time home made rule not doing what I was thinkin....

2005-11-09 Thread Matt Kettler
James Lay wrote: Here's the rule: body GATEWAY_001 /tripod\.com/i score 5 describe match tripod.com Here's the result: Nov 9 13:42:03 gateway spamd[17880]: spamd: result: . -2 -ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00,GATEWAY_001

Bayes MySQL question

2005-11-09 Thread Mike Keller
Hello, I have SA 3.1.0 configured to use MySQL (4.0.24), running on OpenBSD 3.8 for bayes data. I am able to import spam and ham into the DB using sa-learn, but in my bayes_vars table, I don't have anything for token_count. My spam_count is 421 and my ham_count is 400. I do have 821 records in

RE: More spam getting through

2005-11-09 Thread Raymond Dijkxhoorn
Hi! A slightly earlier one got a much lower score with: Umm... I don't see any SARE rules in there. The fact is, SARE isn't terribly effective against these 1-column drug spams. The only SARE hit I got was SARE_SPEC_LEO_LINE03f with a whopping 0.18 points, or occasionally

Re: Bayes MySQL question

2005-11-09 Thread Michael Parker
Mike Keller wrote: Hello, I have SA 3.1.0 configured to use MySQL (4.0.24), running on You need to use at least MySQL 4.1.x to use the Mail::SpamAssassin::BayesStore::MySQL storage engine. Michael

some mail still not getting X-SPAM headers

2005-11-09 Thread Pete Dubler
I have been running spamassassin for many years with great success. Recently though I noticed more spam getting through so I updated to SA 3.1 on my Redhat 9 system. I also added some additional cf's for SA using ruledujour in hopes of catching more spam. Now however, lots of messages never

Can't locate object method

2005-11-09 Thread Jeffrey Duncan
Okay, so I see that I have two versions of PerMsgStatus.pm (below) How do I remove one of them to get rid of the issues? Jeffrey Duncan wrote: Thanks, What do you mean resolve? Here is the output ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] log]# locate PerMsgStatus.pm

Re: some mail still not getting X-SPAM headers

2005-11-09 Thread Matt Kettler
Question, Are the failed messages 256000 bytes in size? If so, you procmail rules are bypassing the calls to spamc. Hence you see the first pass message, but never a pass/fail message afterwards. # send mail through spamassassin DROPPRIVS=yes LOG=FIRST PASS THROUGH SPAMC :0fw * 256000

Re: some mail still not getting X-SPAM headers

2005-11-09 Thread Pete Dubler
Matt, Thanks for the prompt reply. Indeed you ask a very good question. No the size of the message seems to not matter. When I turn on the expanded logging I can see that the message is in fact assigned to the spamc process. Other ideas? Pete Matt Kettler wrote: Question, Are the

Re: Spam, Block: Good to know my representative is spamming..

2005-11-09 Thread List Mail User
... Just received the below crap in from Anna Eshoo in my inbox. Funny, I don't see a e-mail address on my representatives website. And there's no MX record for house.gov. Header below, full SPAM at http://www.espphotography.com/eshoo.html or http://www.espphotography.com/eshoo.txt Anna will

Re: some mail still not getting X-SPAM headers

2005-11-09 Thread Pete Dubler
Matt, your email in fact pointed out a bit of sloopiness on my part in the logging. I have changed it so it now should show correctly which messages actually trigger a call to spamc without me having to look at the verbose log listings. Thanks again, Pete HERE IS THE NEW rc.spam # send

RE: Spam, Block: Good to know my representative is spamming..

2005-11-09 Thread Don Levey
List Mail User wrote: ... i.e. the Reply-To: line is valid - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Message-ID and leaking the RFC1918 IP address are just bad IT management, you can't blame her for that; But for political spam (assuming it wasn't personalized or signed up for), you could report it

RE: Spam, Block: Good to know my representative is spamming..

2005-11-09 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
Don Levey wrote: Didn't congress exempt itself from the I-CAN-SPAM laws anyway? No animal shall send spam... /without cause./ -- Matthew.van.Eerde (at) hbinc.com 805.964.4554 x902 Hispanic Business Inc./HireDiversity.com Software Engineer

RE: Spam, Block: Good to know my representative is spamming..

2005-11-09 Thread List Mail User
... Didn't congress exempt itself from the I-CAN-SPAM laws anyway? What would reporting to the FTC do? More effective would be to report to the local paper(s), with copied to her inbox. -Don Reporting to the FTC doesn't do much for real spam - I'd expect even less for something from

Typical settings for bayes_ignore_header?

2005-11-09 Thread ard
Gidday folks. I'm pretty sure my Bayes database is muntered, because an awful lot of ham is receiving a full Bayes penalty. It's been particularly hard keeping this list's posts from being tagged. From Pete Dubler: 0.999-2--0h-46s--0d--Indeed, ...meaning the word Indeed has been found in 46

Re: HUGE bayes DB (non-sitewide) advice?

2005-11-09 Thread email builder
Well, I know there have to be some admins out there who have a lot of users and do not use sitewide bayes.. RIGHT? See original email snippet at bottom. snip * Other ideas: - increase system memory as much as possible - per-domain Bayes instead of per-user???

3.1.0 make test errors

2005-11-09 Thread Jeremy Kister
I'm about to upgrade a solaris7, a solaris9, and a freebsd 5.2 box to SA 3.1.0. Solaris 7 w/ Perl 5.8.6 Solaris 9 w/ Perl 5.8.2 FreeBSD 5.2.1 w/ Perl 5.6.1 each machine was made with: perl Makefile.PL PREFIX=/usr/local LOCALRULESDIR=/home/spamassassin \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ENABLE_SSL=no i get

Re: 3.1.0 make test errors

2005-11-09 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Jeremy Kister wrote: I'm about to upgrade a solaris7, a solaris9, and a freebsd 5.2 box to SA 3.1.0. Solaris 7 w/ Perl 5.8.6 Solaris 9 w/ Perl 5.8.2 FreeBSD 5.2.1 w/ Perl 5.6.1 each machine was made with: perl Makefile.PL PREFIX=/usr/local LOCALRULESDIR=/home/spamassassin \ [EMAIL PROTECTED]