drop spam mail by user pref

2006-05-03 Thread martin
Dear all, spamd/spamc can had a user pref. file for user defined socring/white list etc, and using milter (spamass-milter) to control drop the spam mail or not. my question is, can drop the spam mail based on user pref. file? e.g. some user can decide to drop [marked] spam email, while other ca

"EADDRINUSE"

2006-05-03 Thread Rahul_s27
i am instaling SA on windows2003, i dont have exchange server after installing, when i was testing the SA following error comes Plz help me to solve this "EADDRINUSE" is not exported by the Errno module at C:\Perl\site\lib/Mail/SpamAssassin/DnsResolver.pm line 4 5 Can't continue after import

Re: Blocking IPs

2006-05-03 Thread Dan
Can be done with brute-force rule creation, EG: # ISKIMARO 66.55.160.0/19 (12/8/05) SBL11507 header L_RCVD_SPAMMER161 Received =~ /\[66\.55\.1[678]\d\.\d {1,3}\]/ describe L_RCVD_SPAMMER161 ISKIMARO Spamhaus score L_RCVD_SPAMMER161 1.5 Bit of a pain to maintain but does wor

Re: Blocking IPs

2006-05-03 Thread David B Funk
On Mon, 1 May 2006, Dan wrote: > Bummer. That works with absolute blocking, like with narrow > professional spammer ranges, but not so well with IP based suspect > ISP, country or regional scoring for mixed spam/ham. I'll keep looking. Can be done with brute-force rule creation, EG: # ISKIMA

Re: OR NOT Logic

2006-05-03 Thread Dan
Thank you Mouss and to everyone for answering my logic question. I now understand this better than I ever thought possible. Dan On May 3, 2006, at 15:14, mouss wrote: Dan wrote: Is: A && (B || C || D || E || F) equivalent to?: A && (!B && !C && !D && !E && !F) No. The DeMorgan laws

Re: Those "Re: good obfupills" spams

2006-05-03 Thread mouss
jdow wrote: And the point I made is to keep the region right around 5.0 as swept clean of ambiguous cases as it's possible to maintain. It MAY be that the reliability of a rule should govern its score upon use. And scores should have a sprinkling of negative scores as well as mostly positive sco

20_bodytests

2006-05-03 Thread Dan
I'm deconstructing the standard filter set and have a few questions.  These are as much about learning SA capabilities as understanding the particular example:1) These don't score by themselves but I can't find any meta they apply to.  Does something depend on them?  Are they used for some kind of

Re: Amavisd - SA misses The Bat spams sometimes

2006-05-03 Thread Timothy Burt
Thanks for your reply. Please see my answers inline below: Timothy Burt Los Angeles, Calif. USA On Wed, 3 May 2006, Matt Kettler wrote: Loren Wilton wrote: I believe Amvis uses its own headers rather than the SA headers for spam mails, and doesn't bother showing details

Re: OR NOT Logic

2006-05-03 Thread mouss
Dan wrote: Is: A && (B || C || D || E || F) equivalent to?: A && (!B && !C && !D && !E && !F) No. The DeMorgan laws are: ! ( A && B)= !A || !B !(A || B) == !A && !B so you _dispatch_ the '!' and replace || with && and conversely. example: if it is _not_ spam _and_

Re: Amavisd - SA misses The Bat spams sometimes

2006-05-03 Thread Matt Kettler
Loren Wilton wrote: > I believe Amvis uses its own headers rather than the SA headers for spam > mails, and doesn't bother showing details on non-spam messages. > > So in all probability you rule is hitting, but it is only 2.9, and your spam > threshold is probably around 5. So if some other thin

Re: Amavisd - SA misses The Bat spams sometimes

2006-05-03 Thread Matt Kettler
Timothy Burt wrote: > > I am running amavisd-new 2.3.3 & spamd 3.1.0 on a couple of servers with > postfix running as the MTA. Note: AFAIK Amavisd-new doesn't use spamd... It calls Mail::SpamAssassin directly. > > I have setup some user defined rules in the > ~homedir/.spamassassin/user_prefs

RE: Silly Question

2006-05-03 Thread David B Funk
On Wed, 3 May 2006, Brent Kennedy wrote: > rules. The issue before here, is that spamassassin doesn't split emails up > between recipients when a message is sent to multiple people. If one user > is on the whitelist_to or all_spam_to or some_spam_to list, then everyone > gets its. [snip..] This

Re: Amavisd - SA misses The Bat spams sometimes

2006-05-03 Thread Loren Wilton
I believe Amvis uses its own headers rather than the SA headers for spam mails, and doesn't bother showing details on non-spam messages. So in all probability you rule is hitting, but it is only 2.9, and your spam threshold is probably around 5. So if some other things don't hit too it won't be s

RE: Silly Question

2006-05-03 Thread Bowie Bailey
Brent Kennedy wrote: > Bowie wrote: > > Greg Allen wrote: > > > Also, now that AOL is blocking all email with no PTR record, you can > > > probably kill a lot of spam with that right on the front end now. If > > > anyone complains, ask them how they email to AOL. :-) > > > > I could get away with

RE: Silly Question

2006-05-03 Thread Brent Kennedy
Thanks :) And Knowing is half the battle(queue gi joe music) Seriously.. I had not really had time to open the hood and look inside.. Thanks for the in-depth explanation. Someone should put that up on the wiki site. -Brent -Original Message- From: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: Silly Question

2006-05-03 Thread Brent Kennedy
"I could get away with adding points for it (does that already happen?), but outright blocking is not a good idea unless the criteria is very close to 100%. " Is there a way? I haven't seen one other than using postfix to block servers that connect that don't have reverse pointers. My problem w

Re: Silly Question

2006-05-03 Thread Matt Kettler
Brent Kennedy wrote: > Wow.. You definitely went the opposite direction. Although, I did > appreciate a well written explanation of the bayes system. Well, I intentionally went the opposite way, to make sure that at least you realize what is really going on. I wasn't really intending that to be

RE: Silly Question

2006-05-03 Thread Brent Kennedy
Unfortunately I have a user that is being insistent that they somehow be involved since they are the victim of the spam messages. I give them the drag and drop folder so that those of them who feel that we are not doing anything about it can participate and hopefully make themselves think they c

RE: Silly Question

2006-05-03 Thread Brent Kennedy
Wow.. You definitely went the opposite direction. Although, I did appreciate a well written explanation of the bayes system. I could be evil and forward this to them(thoughts?)... Maybe they wont ask again. >:) -Brent -Original Message- From: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] S

Re: SA email header...is this correct??

2006-05-03 Thread Jacob Hoppe
I think it is because I first installed SA off the official site, and then since the email server we are running is MailEnable, I installed the addon from MailEnable designed to work with SA. http://www.mailenable.com/addons_Filtering.asp. BUT, the addon wanted to point to an SA.exe, which th

Re: SA email header...is this correct??

2006-05-03 Thread Matt Kettler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > It only reports the items that were found as positive indicators. Not the > ones that didn't trigger. Actually, none are positive indicators. They're all zero-scored meta test sub-rules starting with __. Normally you should never see these in a hit list, and they count

Re: SA email header...is this correct??

2006-05-03 Thread Matt Kettler
Jacob Hoppe wrote: > Hello, > > I am running sa for Outlook which states in the email that the sa is > v2.3. Is the output at the top of this email message correct? I > thought its supposed to test for other items...Please let me know what > you think...It seems the points that are accumulated a

Re: SA email header...is this correct??

2006-05-03 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 01:53:56PM -0500, Jacob Hoppe wrote: > I am running sa for Outlook which states in the email that the sa is > v2.3. Is the output at the top of this email message correct? I Wow. That's ancient! > thought its supposed to test for other items...Please let me know > wh

RE: Silly Question

2006-05-03 Thread Bowie Bailey
Greg Allen wrote: > I know some people use the public folder drag-drop for learning spam, > but I personally don't like the whole idea. And I did consider it. > > I would rather work smarter on the server end to kill or mark the spam > before it gets to the user. > > I don't think users should ha

Re: Silly Question

2006-05-03 Thread jp
I don't do the learning thing. http://www.midcoast.com/help/email/spam.html is how we explain it to users. On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 12:53:57PM -0400, Brent Kennedy wrote: > I am trying my best to explain to a non-technical person how spamassassin > works. The other issue I have is that I am tryi

Re: SA email header...is this correct??

2006-05-03 Thread esandquist
It only reports the items that were found as positive indicators. Not the ones that didn't trigger. Eric > Hello, > > I am running sa for Outlook which states in the email that the sa is > v2.3. Is the output at the top of this email message correct? I > thought its supposed to test for other

SA email header...is this correct??

2006-05-03 Thread Jacob Hoppe
Hello, I am running sa for Outlook which states in the email that the sa is v2.3. Is the output at the top of this email message correct? I thought its supposed to test for other items...Please let me know what you think...It seems the points that are accumulated are all good items?? >From

Amavisd - SA misses The Bat spams sometimes

2006-05-03 Thread Timothy Burt
I am running amavisd-new 2.3.3 & spamd 3.1.0 on a couple of servers with postfix running as the MTA. I have setup some user defined rules in the ~homedir/.spamassassin/user_prefs file and most of the time, I can see the results of running these tests in the headers. One of the rules I have

Re: whitelist_from_spf is not working

2006-05-03 Thread Matt Kettler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Roger Taranto wrote: >> The reason I ask is that my dad's SPF record is listed as ~all for his >> externally-visible static IP address, but when machines internal to >> his network connect to send mail, they look forged since they have a >> 192.168 address. Suggestions?

Re: Silly Question

2006-05-03 Thread Matt Kettler
Brent Kennedy wrote: > Here is my explanation for how spamassassin learns email as spam(laymans > terms): > > 1. Users receive the junk email > 2. The users who received the junk email drags and drops the email to the > spammail public folder in outlook > 3. Spamassassin connects to the internal

RE: whitelist_from_spf is not working

2006-05-03 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
Roger Taranto wrote: > The reason I ask is that my dad's SPF record is listed as ~all for his > externally-visible static IP address, but when machines internal to > his network connect to send mail, they look forged since they have a > 192.168 address. Suggestions? Bypass SPF checking on * mail

RE: Silly Question

2006-05-03 Thread Greg Allen
I know some people use the public folder drag-drop for learning spam, but I personally don't like the whole idea. And I did consider it. I would rather work smarter on the server end to kill or mark the spam before it gets to the user. I don't think users should have to worry about all the techni

Re: whitelist_from_spf is not working

2006-05-03 Thread Roger Taranto
On Tue, 2006-05-02 at 21:29, Matt Kettler wrote: > jdow wrote: > > From: "Matt Kettler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> Ramprasad wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> I am using SA 3.1.1 as a module in MailScanner. > >>> I am not able to get whitelist_from_spf working. > >>> In my local.cf I have > >>> ifplugin

RE: Silly Question

2006-05-03 Thread Bowie Bailey
Mike Jackson wrote: > > 2. Once the server has received the email, it then scans the email > > and compares it to a list of rules. Every time a rule is matched, > > the server adds points to the email. > > 3. When the server completes the scan of the email, it takes the > > total number of points

Re: Silly Question

2006-05-03 Thread Kris Deugau
Brent Kennedy wrote: I am trying my best to explain to a non-technical person how spamassassin works. The other issue I have is that I am trying to explain to them why they need to drag mail to a public folder so the server can learn it as spam. They say they are doing it but they get the messa

Re: Silly Question

2006-05-03 Thread Mike Jackson
2. Once the server has received the email, it then scans the email and compares it to a list of rules. Every time a rule is matched, the server adds points to the email. 3. When the server completes the scan of the email, it takes the total number of points assigned to that email and compares tha

RE: new type of email spam

2006-05-03 Thread Anton Krall
Title: RE: new type of email spam Sounds great, thx!   __Anton Krall Intruder Consulting A Division of IntruderEnterprises S.A. de C.V. www.intruder.com.mx   Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel. 5781-5112 ext. 201 FWD Number: 613602 Me

Silly Question

2006-05-03 Thread Brent Kennedy
I am trying my best to explain to a non-technical person how spamassassin works. The other issue I have is that I am trying to explain to them why they need to drag mail to a public folder so the server can learn it as spam. They say they are doing it but they get the message several times a day.

RE: Way OT: What do you use for anti-virus (Linux)

2006-05-03 Thread John D. Hardin
On Tue, 2 May 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Gary W. Smith wrote: > > How does ClamAV catch them if they cannot unzip them? ... > That's when you start getting viruses in emails that say "The > password is Mickey Mouse's girlfriend's name." What a lot of effort. Why not just enforce a policy

RE: Tinurl being abused by spammers..

2006-05-03 Thread Chris Santerre
Title: RE: Tinurl being abused by spammers.. > > TinyURL uses SURBLs to deny services to spammers: > >   http://www.surbl.org/redirect.html > > but adultfriendfinder is not blacklisted on SURBLs since it > arguably may have some legitimate uses. > > If adultfriendfinder is being used in s

Re: stock market spam

2006-05-03 Thread David Flanigan
On Wed, 3 May 2006 09:14:11 -0400, Thomas Deaton wrote > Is there any way to block this flood of html stock market spam? > > thanks > > Tom Deaton > Guilford County Information Services Tom, Assuming you are running SA - have you looked at the SARE community rules? The SARE_STOCKS rule was u

stock market spam

2006-05-03 Thread Thomas Deaton
Is there any way to block this flood of html stock market spam?   thanks                     Tom Deaton Guilford County Information Services (336) 641-6699 [EMAIL PROTECTED]   E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be

Re: whitelist_from_spf is not working

2006-05-03 Thread Ramprasad
Matt, Thanks for helping. Got whitelist_from_spf working ( with some help from postfix guys ) I had to do the following IN postfix In file /etc/postfix/main.cf smtpd_data_restrictions = reject_unauth_pipelining, check_sender_access regexp:/etc/postfix/add_x_envelope_f

Re: qmail auth mail received as spam

2006-05-03 Thread hamann . w
Hi Jason, it seems the problem is caused by this set of headers: >> Received: from 84.153.210.199 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) by shared3 (envelope-from >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, uid 0) with qmail-scanner-2.01 >> (clamdscan: 0.88.1/1426. hbedv: 6.34.1.27/6.34.1.12. spammassassin: 3.1.1 >> Clear:RC:0(84

Re: Tinurl being abused by spammers..

2006-05-03 Thread Jeff Chan
On Tuesday, May 2, 2006, 11:08:23 AM, Matt Kettler wrote: > It looks like tinyurl is now being abused by spammers the same way geocities > was. I just got a porn spam using it. > The tiny URL resolves to: > http://cover5.adultfriendfinder*MUNGED*.com/go/p239909.subyahtiny > Which returns a HTML

Re: Tinurl being abused by spammers.. (leo/badcow)

2006-05-03 Thread Maurice Lucas
On Tue, 2006-05-02 at 15:50 -0500, Igor Chudov wrote: > On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 01:39:26PM -0700, List Mail User wrote: > > >... > > >For the last week, I feel like I should receive a paycheck from Geocities! > > >All I've been doing is submitting damn redirect web pages. I even did some > > >testi

Re: qmail auth mail received as spam

2006-05-03 Thread Jason Haar
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote > I have made my setup such that auth'd users still have their outgoing mails > scanned. > After all they are potentially running windows and could be sending virus. > > I do not use SA within qmail-scanner at all, but rather run it before mail is > delivered to > the reci