ham mail marked as spam

2007-08-22 Thread Sg
Hi Suddenly my collegue mails are recieved as spam by 3.1.7 SA. I added to them on white list entry. Why it comes like this suddenly? any solution? -- Sg

Re: BOTNET Exceptions for Today

2007-08-22 Thread René Berber
John Rudd wrote: René Berber wrote: Here's a good example of why Botnet's default score is too high, those guys at meridiencancun have a so called Enterprise account with their ISP, what they get is a fixed IP and no control over reverse DNS, that's why the reverse returns what the ISP

Re: Adding new header to SA

2007-08-22 Thread yossim
Hi Steve, Thanks for the info. However the version of MailScanner that i use does not support this attribute. Is there other place were i can add this header. Kindly regards, Yossi Steve Freegard-2 wrote: Matt Kettler wrote: yossim wrote: Hi forum, I am running MailScanner integrated

RE: BOTNET Exceptions for Today

2007-08-22 Thread Martin.Hepworth
-Original Message- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of René Berber Sent: 22 August 2007 07:42 To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: BOTNET Exceptions for Today John Rudd wrote: René Berber wrote: Here's a good example of why Botnet's default score is

Re: ham mail marked as spam

2007-08-22 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 22.08.07 11:47, Sg wrote: Suddenly my collegue mails are recieved as spam by 3.1.7 SA. I added to them on white list entry. Why it comes like this suddenly? any solution? maybe your colleague got onto blacklist? Hard to say without seeing headers -- Matus UHLAR - fantomas, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: ham mail marked as spam

2007-08-22 Thread Raymond Dijkxhoorn
Hi! Suddenly my collegue mails are recieved as spam by 3.1.7 SA. I added to them on white list entry. Why it comes like this suddenly? any solution? maybe your colleague got onto blacklist? Hard to say without seeing headers Or is he using a image as footer, with the current SA rules you

Re: Adding new header to SA

2007-08-22 Thread Steve Freegard
yossim wrote: Hi Steve, Thanks for the info. However the version of MailScanner that i use does not support this attribute. Is there other place were i can add this header. No - you'll have to upgrade MailScanner if you want to be able to do this (it isn't hard). Kind regards, Steve.

dropping spamHi

2007-08-22 Thread Euroka
Hello all! Im using Postfix as MTA and use the procmailrc script in each $HOME dir to filter and delete spam immeditately before it get's into the user's mailbox. For some users I do have to send all incoming mail for [EMAIL PROTECTED] to another mailserver [EMAIL PROTECTED] by using the

Re: Need a plugin written relating to black/white/yellow lists

2007-08-22 Thread Loren Wilton
header __RCVD_IN_JMFILTER eval:check_rbl('JMFILTER','hostkarma.junkemailfilter.com.') describe __RCVD_IN_JMFILTER Sender listed in JMFILTER tflags __RCVD_IN_JMFILTER net header RCVD_IN_JMFILTER_W eval:check_rbl_sub('JMFILTER', '127.0.0.1') describe RCVD_IN_JMFILTER_W Sender listed in

Re: ham mail marked as spam

2007-08-22 Thread Matt Kettler
Sg wrote: Hi Suddenly my collegue mails are recieved as spam by 3.1.7 SA. I added to them on white list entry. Why it comes like this suddenly? any solution? could be anything. Got an X-Spam-Status to provide us a clue?

Re: Scanning mailer-daemon bounces generated by localhost

2007-08-22 Thread sacoo sacoo
Well, maybe I didn't explain it properly we are not providing relay for the outgoing mail, we are only filtering for viruses/spam the incoming mails and the part that are junk of them are the ones bouncing to us and giving problems. Relay service is a non-op in the current spam war. If you do

Email forwarding and RBL trouble

2007-08-22 Thread Rense Buijen
Hello all, I have two mailservers, a primary and a secondary MX. The primary MX is a spamassassin (3.2.3 on Ubuntu Linux) box that is placed inline of a MS Exchange machine. Spamassassin is doing a good job, especialy with the RBL's I am using. The backup MX is a simple EXIM which does only

Re: Scanning mailer-daemon bounces generated by localhost

2007-08-22 Thread Justin Mason
hi -- What you want is the VBounce ruleset, including in SpamAssassin 3.2.x or downloadable for 3.1.x here: http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/VBounceRuleset . It's designed to deal with exactly what you're describing. --j. sacoo sacoo writes: Well, maybe I didn't explain it properly we are

Re: Email forwarding and RBL trouble

2007-08-22 Thread Matthias Leisi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rense Buijen schrieb: The problem now lies with the RBL's, when the SA box dies, the mail will be queued on my Exim box and when service is restored, it will forward it again BUT the last Received from: path will be of course the Exim host IP.

Re: Email forwarding and RBL trouble

2007-08-22 Thread Rense Buijen
Hi Matthias, Thank you for your (quick) reply. I cannot utilize the trusted_networks settings because I cannot trust the mail that my backup MX sends to me. The backup MX does NO filtering at all, it just accepts ALL mail that has a certain destination domain and then forwards it to the

Re: Email forwarding and RBL trouble

2007-08-22 Thread Pawel Sasin
Hi I cannot utilize the trusted_networks settings because I cannot trust the mail that my backup MX sends to me. The backup MX does NO filtering at all, it just accepts ALL mail that has a certain destination domain and then forwards it to the Primary MX where SA is running, SA is doing all

Re: Email forwarding and RBL trouble

2007-08-22 Thread Rense Buijen
Hi Matthias, Thank you for your (quick) reply. I cannot utilize the trusted_networks settings because I cannot trust the mail that my backup MX sends to me. The backup MX does NO filtering at all, it just accepts ALL mail that has a certain destination domain and then forwards it to the

Re: Email forwarding and RBL trouble

2007-08-22 Thread Matthias Leisi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rense Buijen schrieb: Thank you for your (quick) reply. I cannot utilize the trusted_networks settings because I cannot trust the mail that my backup MX sends to me. But your backup MX is trusted in the sense that it will not forge sender

Re: Email forwarding and RBL trouble

2007-08-22 Thread Rense Buijen
Hi Pawel, I dont think I can check the recipient, if it doesnt exist the mailserver should send a normal bounce like every mailserver does, right? So does the primary machine (Exchange) I dont see a problem with that. Do you know if there is another good setup without having to sync all

Re: Email forwarding and RBL trouble

2007-08-22 Thread Rense Buijen
Mathhias, The problem is that when the mail enters the backup MX, we dont know if that mail is blacklisted at for instance spamcop. So if the backup mx accepts the mail (because it's dumb and it will accept it), and my primary mx (SA) has set the backup mx as trusted network/source, the mail

Re: Email forwarding and RBL trouble

2007-08-22 Thread Ben O'Hara
Thats the one Ben On 8/22/07, Rense Buijen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...thats it? So it will skip the IP of the second MX and do an RBL check against the IP who'm delivered it to the second MX? COOL! I thought it would just ignore everything and pass on the mail Thanks! Ben O'Hara

RE: Email forwarding and RBL trouble

2007-08-22 Thread Bowie Bailey
Rense Buijen wrote: Mathhias, The problem is that when the mail enters the backup MX, we dont know if that mail is blacklisted at for instance spamcop. So if the backup mx accepts the mail (because it's dumb and it will accept it), and my primary mx (SA) has set the backup mx as trusted

Re: dropping spam

2007-08-22 Thread John D. Hardin
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007, Euroka wrote: For some users I do have to send all incoming mail for [EMAIL PROTECTED] to another mailserver [EMAIL PROTECTED] by using the /etc/postfix/virtual file. That bypasses local delivery. So how can I delete all SPAM immediately before it's being forwarded to

Re: Email forwarding and RBL trouble

2007-08-22 Thread Rense Buijen
Thanks a lot all, it's all clear to me now! I though that the trusted networks mean that the message will just be passed it it came from that source. I didnt know it will skip to the next Received IP. Thanks a lot. One question about the backscatter problem though, if I understand correctly

RE: How do I temporarily disable SpamAssassin?

2007-08-22 Thread peter
Thanks again to everybody who responded, and steered me in the right direction. I'm very close to getting John Simpson's validrcptto qmail patch described at http://qmail.jms1.net/patches/validrcptto.cdb.shtml in place on the mailhub machine to prevent passing Rumpelstiltskin problem e-mail

plugin won't load

2007-08-22 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
Hi all, Having problems getting PDFInfo to load. Basic machine info: Sun Solaris 5.9 perl v5.8.9 spamassassin v3.2.2 PDFInfo v0.8 init.pre entry: loadplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::PDFInfo /etc/mail/spamassassin/plugins (which is where I

Re: Email forwarding and RBL trouble

2007-08-22 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Rense Buijen wrote on Wed, 22 Aug 2007 16:01:09 +0200: I think Exchange is configured the right way in such a way that it knows what users it has on the system.. But your backup MX doesn't. As you say you are taking in all mail, forward it to primary and then bounce it back to the sender.

Re: plugin won't load

2007-08-22 Thread Duane Hill
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 at 10:21 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] confabulated: Hi all, Having problems getting PDFInfo to load. Basic machine info: Sun Solaris 5.9 perl v5.8.9 spamassassin v3.2.2 PDFInfo v0.8 init.pre entry: loadplugin

Re: Email forwarding and RBL trouble

2007-08-22 Thread Rense Buijen
Hi Kai, I didn't know that a backup MX can lead to more trouble then having just one, gee, I thought it was a good thing but it turned out to be a quite bad one :) I'll go and use LDAP on the second MX to make sure the remote user exists, otherwise drop it silently. It's indeed getting a bit

RE: Email forwarding and RBL trouble

2007-08-22 Thread Bowie Bailey
Rense Buijen wrote: Thanks a lot all, it's all clear to me now! I though that the trusted networks mean that the message will just be passed it it came from that source. I didnt know it will skip to the next Received IP. Thanks a lot. One question about the backscatter problem though, if I

Re: Scanning mailer-daemon bounces generated by localhost

2007-08-22 Thread sacoo sacoo
On 8/22/07, Justin Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi -- What you want is the VBounce ruleset, including in SpamAssassin 3.2.x or downloadable for 3.1.x here: http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/VBounceRuleset . It's designed to deal with exactly what you're describing. Yeah I saw the

Re: plugin won't load

2007-08-22 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
At 10:35 AM 8/22/2007, Duane Hill wrote: On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 at 10:21 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] confabulated: Hi all, Having problems getting PDFInfo to load. Basic machine info: Sun Solaris 5.9 perl v5.8.9 spamassassin v3.2.2 PDFInfo v0.8

Re: Scanning mailer-daemon bounces generated by localhost

2007-08-22 Thread Kevin Parris
I think it might be easier if you would simply have a conversation with the techy folks at your customers- invite them to configure THEIR system so that either everything from YOUR system is OK no matter what spam status it has (they can route it to bit-bucket or whatever) or turn off the

Re: spamd fails to restart on SIGHUP?

2007-08-22 Thread Per Jessen
Per Jessen wrote: I have seen this once or twice, but still very rarely - spamd will fail to restart after receiving a SIGHUP. It stops, but does not restart. There's nothing in the log to indicate why. Has anyone seen the same? OK, this happened yesterday and now just again. Any

Re: Scanning mailer-daemon bounces generated by localhost

2007-08-22 Thread sacoo sacoo
On 8/22/07, Kevin Parris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it might be easier if you would simply have a conversation with the techy folks at your customers- invite them to configure THEIR system so that either everything from YOUR system is OK no matter what spam status it has (they can route

Re: spamd fails to restart on SIGHUP?

2007-08-22 Thread Justin Mason
Per Jessen writes: Per Jessen wrote: I have seen this once or twice, but still very rarely - spamd will fail to restart after receiving a SIGHUP. It stops, but does not restart. There's nothing in the log to indicate why. Has anyone seen the same? OK, this happened yesterday and

Re: Email forwarding and RBL trouble

2007-08-22 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Rense Buijen wrote on Wed, 22 Aug 2007 16:43:19 +0200: I didn't know that a backup MX can lead to more trouble then having just one Unfortunately, backup MXes attract spammers :-(. You could at least add some more backup MXs (that don't exist) on top of that, that may help to reduce the

Re: Scanning mailer-daemon bounces generated by localhost

2007-08-22 Thread Kai Schaetzl
It's still not clear (at least to me) what you actually want to do and what happens that creates a problem. You provide virus scanning, but not spam scanning? And they reject the spam coming from you? Is that what happens? Visit them and take a big club with you. It's obviously *completely*

Re: Scanning mailer-daemon bounces generated by localhost

2007-08-22 Thread Noel Jones
On 8/22/07, Kai Schaetzl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's still not clear (at least to me) what you actually want to do and what happens that creates a problem. You provide virus scanning, but not spam scanning? And they reject the spam coming from you? Is that what happens? Visit them and take

White list based on host Received From

2007-08-22 Thread Dean Clapper
Is there a way to white list based on the IP using the Received from. We have whitelisted our local domain but have noticed some that spoof our domain. However the Received from tag is usually a different IP. Is it good practice to whitelist using IP? thanks Dean

RE: White list based on host Received From

2007-08-22 Thread Bowie Bailey
Dean Clapper wrote: Is there a way to white list based on the IP using the Received from. We have whitelisted our local domain but have noticed some that spoof our domain. However the Received from tag is usually a different IP. Is it good practice to whitelist using IP? whitelist_from is

Re: Scanning mailer-daemon bounces generated by localhost

2007-08-22 Thread sacoo sacoo
On 8/22/07, Noel Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/22/07, Kai Schaetzl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's still not clear (at least to me) what you actually want to do and what happens that creates a problem. You provide virus scanning, but not spam scanning? And they reject the spam coming

RDNS_DYNAMIC doesn't detect some hostnames

2007-08-22 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Hello, I hoticed that even if much of dynamic ranges are detected, but there are still some undetected. chello.sk uses hostnames with full IP's and without delimiters, for example chello085216200090.chello.sk, which do not match dynamic IP tests. I wonder if someone could push such check into

Re: Email forwarding and RBL trouble

2007-08-22 Thread Aaron Wolfe
On 8/22/07, Rense Buijen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks a lot all, it's all clear to me now! I though that the trusted networks mean that the message will just be passed it it came from that source. I didnt know it will skip to the next Received IP. Thanks a lot. One question about the

Re: Suggested botnet rule scores

2007-08-22 Thread Nix
On 22 Aug 2007, John Rudd spake thusly: Nix wrote: My ISP doesn't give me that option (well, OK, it probably gives *me* that option because I can bug the ISP's technical director, but not people who've posted bonds). I'd venture to guess that the vast majority of small business UK ISPs, even

is it possible to setup SA in a different machine?

2007-08-22 Thread Linooks
Hi, Im using qmail,vpopmail,clamav,and SA 3.0.1 under RHEL4 We send newsletters frequently so I really understand that it will cost a lot of cpu usage. I was thinking if I can setup the SA into a different machine, not with the email server. So I can gain more cpu usage. when it goes to 99 to

Re: Email forwarding and RBL trouble

2007-08-22 Thread John D. Hardin
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007, Rense Buijen wrote: I didn't know that a backup MX can lead to more trouble then having just one, gee, I thought it was a good thing but it turned out to be a quite bad one :) It *is* a good idea. You just can't cheap out on configuring it. Ideally, your backup MXs

Re: is it possible to setup SA in a different machine?

2007-08-22 Thread Jari Fredriksson
Hi, Im using qmail,vpopmail,clamav,and SA 3.0.1 under RHEL4 We send newsletters frequently so I really understand that it will cost a lot of cpu usage. I was thinking if I can setup the SA into a different machine, not with the email server. So I can gain more cpu usage. when it goes to

Re: is it possible to setup SA in a different machine?

2007-08-22 Thread Linooks
So sir, I can just setup an updated verision of SA in a different server and configure it to scan remote servers? can u please send a link how to that.. Im not that good yet..:working: Linooks wrote: Hi, Im using qmail,vpopmail,clamav,and SA 3.0.1 under RHEL4 We send newsletters

Re: is it possible to setup SA in a different machine?

2007-08-22 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Linooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Im using qmail,vpopmail,clamav,and SA 3.0.1 under RHEL4 We send newsletters frequently so I really understand that it will cost a lot of cpu usage. Why would it? Can't you inject the newsletter in such a way that it circumvents SA clamav? -- Ralf

Re: is it possible to setup SA in a different machine?

2007-08-22 Thread Linooks
Thats also my problem, I did not set this email server.. How would I do what you recommend? Thanks, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: * Linooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Im using qmail,vpopmail,clamav,and SA 3.0.1 under RHEL4 We send newsletters frequently so I really understand that it will

Re: is it possible to setup SA in a different machine?

2007-08-22 Thread John D. Hardin
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007, Linooks wrote: Thats also my problem, I did not set this email server.. How would I do what you recommend? First question: how is SA being called? Then we can offer advice. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: is it possible to setup SA in a different machine?

2007-08-22 Thread Linooks
I have no idea, but I think the server uses simscan to call clam and SA. I hope that helps.. John D. Hardin wrote: On Wed, 22 Aug 2007, Linooks wrote: Thats also my problem, I did not set this email server.. How would I do what you recommend? First question: how is SA being called?

Re: Question - How many of you run ALL your email through SA?

2007-08-22 Thread Jon Trulson
On Mon, 20 Aug 2007, Duane Hill wrote: On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 at 16:24 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] confabulated: On Fri, 17 Aug 2007, Eric A. Hall wrote: On 8/16/2007 12:39 PM, Marc Perkel wrote: OK - it's interesting that of all of you who responded this is the only person who is doing it

Re: Question - How many of you run ALL your email through SA?

2007-08-22 Thread Jon Trulson
On Mon, 20 Aug 2007, David B Funk wrote: On Mon, 20 Aug 2007, Duane Hill wrote: On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 at 16:24 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] confabulated: [snip..] I have to second that... In the early days when spammers were just getting started, we started using some RBL's at the MTA level.

Re: is it possible to setup SA in a different machine?

2007-08-22 Thread Rick Macdougall
Linooks wrote: I have no idea, but I think the server uses simscan to call clam and SA. I hope that helps.. If you are using simscan you can add [EMAIL PROTECTED]:spam=no,clam=yes to the /var/qmail/control/simcontrol file and then run /var/qmail/bin/simscanmk. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the

Re: is it possible to setup SA in a different machine?

2007-08-22 Thread Linooks
Cool!! i will try this one,, a very big thanks!! muah! I think this will work! Rick Macdougall-2 wrote: Linooks wrote: I have no idea, but I think the server uses simscan to call clam and SA. I hope that helps.. If you are using simscan you can add [EMAIL

Re: Blacklist problems!

2007-08-22 Thread maillist
Michael Chapman wrote: Well, nothing has worked so far ... every message that I have coming in (except for the specifically white-listed messages from this mailing list) have USER_IN_BLACKLIST flagged. Where on earth is it getting this? You've seen my local.cf, I don't have a user_prefs

Re: Blacklist problems!

2007-08-22 Thread John D. Hardin
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007, maillist wrote: *PLEASE* prune your replies. You may want to try to turn off bayes_auto_learn or just turn off bayes all together. Maybe your bayes have become corrupt. How would bayes cause the USER_IN_BLACKLIST rule to fire? -- John Hardin KA7OHZ