On 2014-08-13 17:47, Steve Bergman wrote:
On 08/13/2014 01:06 PM, Dave Warren wrote:
In short, yes, it is unproductive. The quasi-legitimate stuff does go
away, but the rest doesn't. This was confirmed just recently by Laura on
Word To The Wise, who posted about this just 5 days ago:
https://
On 08/13/2014 01:06 PM, Dave Warren wrote:
In short, yes, it is unproductive. The quasi-legitimate stuff does go
away, but the rest doesn't. This was confirmed just recently by Laura on
Word To The Wise, who posted about this just 5 days ago:
https://wordtothewise.com/2014/08/unsubscribing-sp
On Wed, 2014-08-13 at 11:20 -0700, Noah wrote:
> This is a new machine with rules copied over from another machine. How
> about this? I just start new. Is there a good page out that explains
> setting up spamassassin from scratch and getting the sa rules set up
> well and cleaned up nicely?
Hi there,
This is a new machine with rules copied over from another machine. How
about this? I just start new. Is there a good page out that explains
setting up spamassassin from scratch and getting the sa rules set up
well and cleaned up nicely? I am happy to start from the beginning with
On 2014-08-13 07:14, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
call an unsubscribe-hook _and_ train as spam.
Should be viable for both solicided an unsolicited mail.
Or, does anyone think that unsubscribing spam is counter-productive
still?
In short, yes, it is unproductive. The quasi-legitimate stuff
--As of August 13, 2014 11:25:26 AM -0400, David F. Skoll is alleged to
have said:
I believe that unsubscribing is safe. If the list owner is legitimate,
unsubscribing will work. If the list owner is a spammer, he/she already
has your email address and I don't believe spammers track the valid
On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 17:11:32 +0200
Axb wrote:
> On 08/13/2014 05:04 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
> > For the Nigerian 419 spam, the last thing you want to do is reply
> > to it :)
> unsubscribe doesn't mean "reply"
The point is that any unsubscribe mechanism must of necessity inform
the list owner t
SA provides an EnvelopeFrom pseudo header for the SMTP mail from value.
Does it also provide an EnvelopeTo pseudo header?
On 08/13/2014 05:04 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
For the Nigerian 419 spam, the last thing you want to do is reply to it :)
unsubscribe doesn't mean "reply"
where I sit, if you can't unsubscribe with ONE click, they get the hard
block
>That's true, but a lot of users (I've done it myself) forg
On 08/13/2014 10:04 AM, Antony Stone wrote:
Which is why we can't rely on them to unsubscribe, and need another way of
stopping it coming in.
When they complain, why not tell them to unsubscribe? Perhaps my view is
clouded by the fact that I have 1 mail server and 100 users, and not 100
mail
On Wednesday 13 August 2014 at 16:14:06 (EU time), Matus UHLAR - fantomas
wrote:
call an unsubscribe-hook _and_ train as spam.
Should be viable for both solicided an unsolicited mail.
Or, does anyone think that unsubscribing spam is counter-productive still?
On 13.08.14 16:43, Antony Stone wro
On Wednesday 13 August 2014 at 16:51:28 (EU time), David F. Skoll wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 16:43:29 +0200
>
> Antony Stone wrote:
> > - spammers who get unsubscribe responses will use that to confirm
> > the address and send more, therefore unsubscribing to them is a bad
> > idea
>
> I won
On 08/13/2014 09:37 AM, Axb wrote:
the so called "legit" will set your addr flag as unsubbed
I see a significant amount of "spam" to my users from truly legitimate
sources. Where "truly legitimate" doesn't mean that they are
legitimately the USDA or Merrill Lynch. These can be fire arms ads f
On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 16:43:29 +0200
Antony Stone wrote:
> - spammers who get unsubscribe responses will use that to confirm
> the address and send more, therefore unsubscribing to them is a bad
> idea
I wonder how often this happens. This implies that spammers actually care
about the quality of
On Wednesday 13 August 2014 at 16:14:06 (EU time), Matus UHLAR - fantomas
wrote:
> >> Bowie Bailey wrote:
> >>> But you still have to consider point 1. If a user starts complaining
> >>> that he's getting spam from Amazon, I'm not going to mess with SA, I'm
> >>> going to tell him to click the u
On 08/13/2014 04:14 PM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
Bowie Bailey wrote:
But you still have to consider point 1. If a user starts complaining
that he's getting spam from Amazon, I'm not going to mess with SA, I'm
going to tell him to click the unsubscribe link at the bottom of the
email. (Ass
Bowie Bailey wrote:
But you still have to consider point 1. If a user starts complaining
that he's getting spam from Amazon, I'm not going to mess with SA, I'm
going to tell him to click the unsubscribe link at the bottom of the
email. (Assuming that it actually is from Amazon, of course)
Al
On August 13, 2014 4:46:31 AM David B Funk
wrote:
Who should I report this stuff to?
add to local.cf
uridnsbl_skip_domain example.com
where example.com is the fp domain, or report to the uribl owner this
domain is not spam
On 8/13/2014 12:24 AM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
Both of those are recent, I believe and both have reasons to
blacklist. Reporting here is fine. Joe will look at moving them to our
marketing list but in the end you might have to consider a custom
score because we consider places with convicted sp
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