How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread Justin Mason
For the upcoming release, we're considering dropping support for that interpreter version. If you're still using 5.6.x, or know of a (relatively recent) distro that does, please reply to highlight this --j.

Re: How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread LuKreme
On 25-Jun-2009, at 02:44, Justin Mason wrote: For the upcoming release, we're considering dropping support for that interpreter version. If you're still using 5.6.x, or know of a (relatively recent) distro that does, please reply to highlight this If moving away from 5.6 makes SA better

Re: How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread Jan P. Kessler
Justin Mason schrieb: For the upcoming release, we're considering dropping support for that interpreter version. If you're still using 5.6.x, or know of a (relatively recent) distro that does, please reply to highlight this --j. Don't know if it's still relevant: Solaris 8 # uname

Re: How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread Jan P. Kessler
Jan P. Kessler schrieb: Justin Mason schrieb: For the upcoming release, we're considering dropping support for that interpreter version. If you're still using 5.6.x, or know of a (relatively recent) distro that does, please reply to highlight this --j. Don't know if

Re: How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread LuKreme
On 25-Jun-2009, at 04:15, Jan P. Kessler wrote: Don't know if it's still relevant: Solaris 8 # uname -a SunOS mailhub 5.8 Generic_108528-09 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-250 # perl -v This is perl, version 5.005_03 built for sun4-solaris 5.00? snigger ;) -- Instant karma's going to get you!

Re: How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread Henrik K
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:21:25PM +0200, Jan P. Kessler wrote: Jan P. Kessler schrieb: Justin Mason schrieb: For the upcoming release, we're considering dropping support for that interpreter version. If you're still using 5.6.x, or know of a (relatively recent) distro that does,

Re: How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread Jan P. Kessler
Henrik K schrieb: sorry, just missed the relatively recent statement ;-) When the system gets old enough that it's not supported officially and you are forced to manually CPAN fresh modules (and possibly wreak havoc on the OS), there is no reason not to compile your own perl (or upgrade

Re: How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread Justin Mason
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:15, Jan P. Kesslersal...@jpkessler.info wrote: Justin Mason schrieb: For the upcoming release, we're considering dropping support for that interpreter version.  If you're still using 5.6.x, or know of a (relatively recent) distro that does, please reply to highlight

Re: How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 13:20 +0200, Jan P. Kessler wrote: Henrik K schrieb: SA is trying to be too supportive for the money it receives. ;-) If you ask me, just ditch this and all other old baggage for 3.3. If you are not happy, you are free to keep running 3.2. Some people are even still

Re: How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread Henrik K
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 02:36:15PM +0200, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 13:20 +0200, Jan P. Kessler wrote: Henrik K schrieb: SA is trying to be too supportive for the money it receives. ;-) If you ask me, just ditch this and all other old baggage for 3.3. If you

Re: How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread Ned Slider
Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 13:20 +0200, Jan P. Kessler wrote: Henrik K schrieb: SA is trying to be too supportive for the money it receives. ;-) If you ask me, just ditch this and all other old baggage for 3.3. If you are not happy, you are free to keep running 3.2.

Re: How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Thu, June 25, 2009 14:56, Henrik K wrote: I'm just not sure why ask in the first place. Perl 5.6.1 is old. Anyone using such system most likely has no support. Anyone using such perl most likely shouldn't be allowed to use it. You could be already fixing the code and not waiting. ;) old

Re: How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread Per Jessen
Henrik K wrote: On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 02:36:15PM +0200, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 13:20 +0200, Jan P. Kessler wrote: Henrik K schrieb: SA is trying to be too supportive for the money it receives. ;-) If you ask me, just ditch this and all other old baggage for

Re: How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread John Rudd
2009/6/25 Ned Slider n...@unixmail.co.uk: Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 13:20 +0200, Jan P. Kessler wrote: Henrik K schrieb: SA is trying to be too supportive for the money it receives. ;-) If you ask me, just ditch this and all other old baggage for 3.3. If you are not

Re: How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread Per Jessen
John Rudd wrote: I've seen LOTS of so-focused-on-stability if it ain't broke, don't upgrade it type shops in the Solaris arena ... You'll likely find that in any production environment that is concerned about uptime. The less change, the more uptime. /Per Jessen, Zürich

Re: How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 25-Jun-2009, at 04:15, Jan P. Kessler wrote: Don't know if it's still relevant: Solaris 8 # uname -a SunOS mailhub 5.8 Generic_108528-09 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-250 # perl -v This is perl, version 5.005_03 built for sun4-solaris On 25.06.09 04:37, LuKreme wrote: 5.00? snigger 5.005

Re: How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread John Rudd
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 07:11, Per Jessenp...@computer.org wrote: John Rudd wrote: I've seen LOTS of so-focused-on-stability if it ain't broke, don't upgrade it type shops in the Solaris arena ... You'll likely find that in any production environment that is concerned about uptime.  The

Re: How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread jp
My oldest server has 5.8, and it's a really out of date box. My newest out-of-date box has 5.8.8-36 (opensuse 10.2). Antispam and email is a fast changing technology (compared to other server things like file and print and http), so I see no reason why people should try to adapt an old system

Re: How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
Per Jessen wrote: John Rudd wrote: I've seen LOTS of so-focused-on-stability if it ain't broke, don't upgrade it type shops in the Solaris arena ... You'll likely find that in any production environment that is concerned about uptime. The less change, the more uptime. As far

Re: How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread LuKreme
On 25-Jun-2009, at 05:20, Jan P. Kessler wrote: Henrik K schrieb: SA is trying to be too supportive for the money it receives. ;-) If you ask me, just ditch this and all other old baggage for 3.3. If you are not happy, you are free to keep running 3.2. Some people are even still using 3.1.

Re: How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread John Rudd
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:09, Chris Hoogendykhoogen...@bio.umass.edu wrote: Gone are the days when you totally avoided upgrades because of the time, hassle and risk involved. Time and hassle, maybe. Risk, no. Risk is not a binary, it's a balancing act. Live updates don't remove risk, they

Re: How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread Yet Another Ninja
On 6/25/2009 11:27 PM, John Rudd wrote: On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:09, Chris Hoogendykhoogen...@bio.umass.edu wrote: Gone are the days when you totally avoided upgrades because of the time, hassle and risk involved. Time and hassle, maybe. Risk, no. Risk is not a binary, it's a balancing

Re: How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread Theo Van Dinter
Well, the point is that if it works, don't break it. Yes, you can totally avoid upgrades, depending on your environment. Sometimes you have no choice and continue to run old versions of software or firmware or ... Get over it. :) If you want to continue debating system administration issues,

Re: How many people are still using perl 5.6.x?

2009-06-25 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
Yet Another Ninja wrote: On 6/25/2009 11:27 PM, John Rudd wrote: On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:09, Chris Hoogendykhoogen...@bio.umass.edu wrote: Gone are the days when you totally avoided upgrades because of the time, hassle and risk involved. Time and hassle, maybe. Risk, no. Risk is not