On Thu, 2006-05-18 at 07:23 -0700, Marc Perkel wrote:
URI based black lists have been extremely effected in identifying spam.
I propose another kind of black list. A list of email addresses embedded
in the message body as replies to nigerian type spam and other spam
where you are instructed
On Freitag, 19. Mai 2006 11:07 jdow wrote:
I generalized - in ANY spam there is a URL they want you to use.
Except for those spammers who are just too stupid to configure their
tools. I've received some SPAM where they wanted you to contact them at
[2]r Account is Blocked, please update it.
On Fri, 2006-05-19 at 02:19, jdow wrote:
(It would be a real serious gas to hook a 419 phish to Eliza and
watch for the results. Generate a somewhat paranoid Eliza then sit
back and party. Of course, if *I* could think of this extension of
the lead them on counter phish then I am sure somebody
From: Rob McEwen (PowerView Systems) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
jdow said:
It'd be easier to simply click fraud the sites until the vendors who
commission the spam catch on and turn off the money up front.
I think you've misunderstood Marc's proposal. He is talking about identity theft schemes
via
From: Marc Perkel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Chris Santerre wrote:
We have a hard enough time with tons of new domains in URIBL. Those
cost money and IMHO a bit more steps to go thru to setup then an email
address. I can't imagine trying to keep up with it. They would expire
within hours.
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Dallas L. Engelken wrote:
Well, the only thread on sa-users I found about this was from Dec 2005.
http://www.nabble.com/A-thought-about-phone-numbers-and-URIBLs-t716464.h
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We had a thread on uribl staff
| I generalized - in ANY spam there is a URL they want you to use. Find
| it and send it spurious input, either click fraud or a Gotcha email
| message. Eat their time or discredit their click counts. The idea is
| to raise the expense for the spammers and those who use them.
|
| {^_^}
You
From: Kurt Buff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| I generalized - in ANY spam there is a URL they want you to use. Find
| it and send it spurious input, either click fraud or a Gotcha email
| message. Eat their time or discredit their click counts. The idea is
| to raise the expense for the spammers and
URI based black lists have been extremely effected in identifying spam.
I propose another kind of black list. A list of email addresses embedded
in the message body as replies to nigerian type spam and other spam
where you are instructed to reply to the email address in the message body.
One
-Original Message-
From: Marc Perkel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 9:24 AM
To: SpamAssassin Users
Subject: Proposal: First URI black list, how about email
address black lists?
URI based black lists have been extremely effected in
identifying spam.
I
Dallas L. Engelken wrote:
The only
problem I have with it is that it would be very manual, and address
rotation per msg would be very easy to defeat this.
Dallas
Even if they used a lot of email addresses in the body they would all
have to be good addresses that got the response back to
From: Marc Perkel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
URI based black lists have been extremely effected in identifying spam.
I propose another kind of black list. A list of email addresses embedded
in the message body as replies to nigerian type spam and other spam
where you are instructed to reply to the
From: Dallas L. Engelken [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Marc Perkel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
URI based black lists have been extremely effected in
identifying spam.
I propose another kind of black list. A list of email
addresses embedded in the message body as replies
jdow said:
It'd be easier to simply click fraud the sites until the vendors who
commission the spam catch on and turn off the money up front.
I think you've misunderstood Marc's proposal. He is talking about identity
theft schemes via Nigeria 419 scams where there is only an e-mail address in
jdow wrote:
From: Dallas L. Engelken [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dallas
jdow Directly answering his question - it is not infrequent these
days for the answer site to be part of a botnet, I understand. So a
blacklist would have to be bigevil.cf in size and then some.
It'd be easier to simply click
Rob McEwen (PowerView Systems) wrote:
jdow said:
It'd be easier to simply click fraud the sites until the vendors who
commission the spam catch on and turn off the money up front.
I think you've misunderstood Marc's proposal. He is talking about identity theft schemes
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Subject: RE: Proposal: First URI black list, how about email
address black lists?
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Title: RE: Proposal: First URI black list, how about email address black lists?
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From: Marc Perkel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 11:09 AM
To: jdow
Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: Proposal: First URI black list, how
Title: RE: Proposal: First URI black list, how about email address
black lists?
Chris Santerre wrote:
We have a hard enough time with tons of new domains
in URIBL. Those cost money and IMHO a bit more steps to go thru to
setup then an email address. I can't imagine trying
RE: Proposal: First URI black list, how about email address black
lists?Remember we're not talking
about the From address but the address within the message that they want you to
reply to. That
address isn't going to expire very fast because that's how the spammer gets the
money. I would say
RE: Proposal: First URI black list, how about email address black
lists?Remember we're not talking
about the From address but the address within the message that they want you to
reply to. That
address isn't going to expire very fast because that's how the spammer gets the
money. I would say
Title: RE: Proposal: First URI black list, how about email address blacklists?
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From: Rob McEwen (PowerView Systems) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 1:48 PM
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: Proposal: First URI black list,
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Dallas L. Engelken wrote:
Well, the only thread on sa-users I found about this was from Dec 2005.
http://www.nabble.com/A-thought-about-phone-numbers-and-URIBLs-t716464.h
tml
We had a thread on uribl staff list about this last July which we
I believe that using email addresses that are embedded in 419 type spams
as a spam fingerprint will be as effective against 419 typre spam as
URIBL is for identifying spam that has links in it.
All spam has one thing in common. Spam wants you to DO something. And
what it wants you to do is
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