Re: DomainKeys in SA

2006-03-26 Thread Benny Pedersen
I had set up Postfix to check incoming mails for DK sigs but when I did that, I was no longer able to DISCARD emails sent by known spammers and spam networks. That was not acceptable, so SpamAssassin provides me with another way of doing it, without breaking any Postfix functionality. I

Re: DomainKeys in SA

2006-03-26 Thread Philip Prindeville
Benny Pedersen wrote: I had set up Postfix to check incoming mails for DK sigs but when I did that, I was no longer able to DISCARD emails sent by known spammers and spam networks. That was not acceptable, so SpamAssassin provides me with another way of doing it, without breaking any Postfix

Re: DomainKeys in SA

2005-12-14 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Pollywog wrote on Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:35:25 +: Is it just a problem for Yahoo domains? I didn't know of any other domains doing this. Now that I know gmail does it as well I can look out for gmail mails ... Maybe the problem is Yahoo because I have gotten a few DK_VERIFIED emails

Re: DomainKeys in SA

2005-12-14 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kai Schaetzl writes: Pollywog wrote on Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:35:25 +: Maybe the problem is Yahoo because I have gotten a few DK_VERIFIED emails though most that specify DK anything just specify one of the other tags, not the VERIFIED tag. Not

Re: DomainKeys in SA

2005-12-14 Thread Pollywog
On 12/14/2005 11:31 am, Kai Schaetzl wrote: Pollywog wrote on Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:35:25 +: Is it just a problem for Yahoo domains? I didn't know of any other domains doing this. Now that I know gmail does it as well I can look out for gmail mails ... Maybe the problem is Yahoo

Re: DomainKeys in SA

2005-12-14 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Justin Mason wrote on Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:19:41 -0800: All the other DK hits just mean that DK headers were *found*, not that they validated as correct in any way. Yeah, that's why I would like to see some DK_verified ;-) Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive

Re: DomainKeys in SA

2005-12-14 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Pollywog wrote on Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:25:55 +: I meant that since I am getting some mails with DK_VERIFIED, it might mean that something is broken with Yahoo's DK, if you are not getting DK_VERIFIED in Yahoo mails. Or it's broken on my end ;-) After all, I have none of these hits at

Re: DomainKeys in SA

2005-12-13 Thread Kai Schaetzl
wrote on Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:12:05 +1300: ...and sure enough, elandsys.com does not match dk.elandsys.com. Going from that I looked at the Yahoo Groups messages I recently got: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=lima; d=yahoogroups.com; Do I

Re: DomainKeys in SA

2005-12-13 Thread SM
At 06:30 13-12-2005, Kai Schaetzl wrote: Going from that I looked at the Yahoo Groups messages I recently got: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=lima; d=yahoogroups.com; Do I understand it correctly that d should match the sender's domain? In that case

Re: DomainKeys in SA

2005-12-13 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Sm wrote on Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:41:09 -0800: Yes, it should match the sending domain. You should verify the Sender: header as well. Well, the *Sender* domain does match, but not the envelope from or the header from. I don't know what SA uses for matching, but I think there's something else

Re: DomainKeys in SA

2005-12-13 Thread Pollywog
On 12/13/2005 10:31 pm, Kai Schaetzl wrote: Sm wrote on Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:41:09 -0800: Yes, it should match the sending domain. You should verify the Sender: header as well. Well, the *Sender* domain does match, but not the envelope from or the header from. I don't know what SA uses for

Re: DomainKeys in SA

2005-12-13 Thread Pollywog
On 12/13/2005 11:35 pm, Pollywog wrote: I had set up Postfix to check incoming mails for DK sigs but when I did that, I was no longer able to DISCARD emails sent by known spammers and spam networks. That was not acceptable, so SpamAssassin provides me with another way of doing it, without

Re: DomainKeys in SA

2005-12-13 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Wed, December 14, 2005 00:39, Pollywog wrote: acceptable, so SpamAssassin provides me with another way of doing it, without breaking any Postfix functionality. I don't like to reject spam, I prefer to DISCARD so that the innocent bystanders that own the addresses the spammers forged are

Re: DomainKeys in SA

2005-12-12 Thread Pollywog
On 12/12/2005 01:31 pm, Kai Schaetzl wrote: I enabled the DomainKeys plugin way back, but didn't have much to play for it. Now I'm subscribed to a group at yahoogroups.com and am getting mails from Yahoo with: DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=lima; d=yahoogroups.com;

RE: DomainKeys in SA

2005-12-12 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
Kai Schaetzl wrote: I enabled the DomainKeys plugin ... Shouldn't it be able to verify the signature? Do I need to have an additional Perl module or some local certificate store? Yup, and it works for me. But Mail::DomainKeys changed their API and I had to apply a patch. See this blog

Re: DomainKeys in SA

2005-12-12 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Pollywog wrote: On 12/12/2005 01:31 pm, Kai Schaetzl wrote: I enabled the DomainKeys plugin way back, but didn't have much to play for it. Now I'm subscribed to a group at yahoogroups.com and am getting mails from Yahoo with: DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=lima;

Re: DomainKeys in SA

2005-12-12 Thread Pollywog
On 12/12/2005 06:08 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kai Schaetzl wrote: I enabled the DomainKeys plugin ... Shouldn't it be able to verify the signature? Do I need to have an additional Perl module or some local certificate store? Yup, and it works for me. But Mail::DomainKeys changed

RE: DomainKeys in SA

2005-12-12 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
Pollywog wrote: Can't locate Mail/DomainKeys/Message.pm in @INC There's your problem... the DomainKeys plugin requires the Mail::DomainKeys package. Install that, apply the patch to the plugin, and you should be good-to-go. -- Matthew.van.Eerde (at) hbinc.com 805.964.4554 x902

Re: DomainKeys in SA

2005-12-12 Thread Bill Baird
On 12/12/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kai Schaetzl wrote: I enabled the DomainKeys plugin... Shouldn't it be able to verify the signature? Do I need to have an additional Perl module or some local certificate store?Yup, and it works for me.But Mail::DomainKeys changed their API

Re: DomainKeys in SA

2005-12-12 Thread Kai Schaetzl
wrote on Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:08:30 -0800: Yup, and it works for me. But Mail::DomainKeys changed their API and I had to apply a patch. See this blog entry: http://saintaardvarkthecarpeted.com/blog/?p=220 Thanks, I read the bugzilla and checked my version. I still have 0.18. Seems

Re: DomainKeys in SA

2005-12-12 Thread Pollywog
On 12/12/2005 06:36 pm, Pollywog wrote: Same as before the patch. I am using Spamassassin 3.1.0a-1 from a Debian Sarge package compiled and installed on a Xandros 3 system. I think it is from Debian unstable not Sarge. Yes, they call it unstable for a reason :) 8)

Re: DomainKeys in SA

2005-12-12 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Bill Baird wrote on Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:56:02 -0500: This link has more details about the patch - http://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=4623 Thanks, but the blog contains a link to the bugzilla, anyway :-) Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive

Re: DomainKeys in SA

2005-12-12 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Kai Schaetzl wrote on Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:01:08 +0100: Ok, patch run worked flawless. Now let's see if I get a different result next time I get a mail from Yahoo. Still getting message has an unverified signature. Hm? Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet

Re: DomainKeys in SA

2005-12-12 Thread Pollywog
On 12/12/2005 07:58 pm, Kai Schaetzl wrote: Kai Schaetzl wrote on Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:01:08 +0100: Ok, patch run worked flawless. Now let's see if I get a different result next time I get a mail from Yahoo. Still getting message has an unverified signature. Hm? Perhaps something is broken

Re: DomainKeys in SA

2005-12-12 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kai Schaetzl writes: Kai Schaetzl wrote on Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:01:08 +0100: Ok, patch run worked flawless. Now let's see if I get a different result next time I get a mail from Yahoo. Still getting message has an unverified signature. Hm? It's

RE: DomainKeys in SA

2005-12-12 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kai Schaetzl writes: Kai Schaetzl wrote on Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:01:08 +0100: Ok, patch run worked flawless. Now let's see if I get a different result next time I get a mail from Yahoo. Still getting message has an unverified signature. Hm? It's pretty easy for

Re: DomainKeys in SA

2005-12-12 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Pollywog wrote on Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:05:40 +: Perhaps something is broken on the Yahoo side. Don't think so. I used the two auto-responders at http://www.elandsys.com/resources/sendmail/domainkeys.html to try it. It shows the same as the Yahoo messages, so I suppose, there's something on

Re: DomainKeys in SA

2005-12-12 Thread Kai Schaetzl
wrote on Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:36:17 -0800: 0.0 DK_POLICY_SIGNSOME Domain Keys: policy says domain signs some mails 0.0 DK_POLICY_TESTING Domain Keys: policy says domain is testing DK Yeah, this is what I got with the Yahoo mails as well. Haven't got in any Yahoo mail since

Re: DomainKeys in SA

2005-12-12 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Justin Mason wrote on Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:32:21 -0800: If you want a post-mortem, it might be worth forwarding a full message with all headers... Well, just saving it from my mail program may have broken it. I understand that it's a filigrane method, that's probably why it's bound to fail in

RE: DomainKeys in SA

2005-12-12 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
Kai Schaetzl wrote: Justin Mason wrote on Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:32:21 -0800: If you want a post-mortem, it might be worth forwarding a full message with all headers... ... As you see all tests result in cannot load message using Mail::DomainKeys::Message. Do you have Mail::DomainKeys

Re: DomainKeys in SA

2005-12-12 Thread Kai Schaetzl
wrote on Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:48:28 -0800: Do you have Mail::DomainKeys installed? Yes. If the plugin is enabled, but Mail::DomainKeys is not installed you get --lint warnings. That is, does this command print 1 or an error? $ perl -e use Mail::DomainKeys::Message; print 1; Sure,

Re: DomainKeys in SA

2005-12-12 Thread Pollywog
On 12/12/2005 09:13 pm, Kai Schaetzl wrote: Pollywog wrote on Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:05:40 +: Perhaps something is broken on the Yahoo side. Don't think so. I used the two auto-responders at http://www.elandsys.com/resources/sendmail/domainkeys.html to try it. It shows the same as the

Re: DomainKeys in SA

2005-12-12 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Pollywog wrote on Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:29:29 +: I applied it to the DomainKeys.pm file... was that incorrect? It will patch against this path: lib/Mail/SpamAssassin/Plugin/DomainKeys.pm from the root of your source. If you installed it against the installed .pm or against the devel package

Re: DomainKeys in SA

2005-12-12 Thread Pollywog
On 12/12/2005 11:13 pm, Kai Schaetzl wrote: Pollywog wrote on Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:29:29 +: I applied it to the DomainKeys.pm file... was that incorrect? It will patch against this path: lib/Mail/SpamAssassin/Plugin/DomainKeys.pm from the root of your source. If you installed it against

RE: DomainKeys in SA

2005-12-12 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
Pollywog wrote: /usr/share/perl5/Mail/SpamAssassin/Plugin/DomainKeys.pm That is the file I patched and there were no errors. Have you looked at the .pm file and verified that the new code is in place? Do you run spamd? If so have you shut it down and started it up again? --

Re: DomainKeys in SA

2005-12-12 Thread Pollywog
On 12/13/2005 12:08 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pollywog wrote: On 12/12/2005 11:50 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pollywog wrote: /usr/share/perl5/Mail/SpamAssassin/Plugin/DomainKeys.pm That is the file I patched and there were no errors. Have you looked at the .pm file and verified

RE: DomainKeys in SA

2005-12-12 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
Pollywog wrote: perl -MMail::DomainKeys -e 'print $Mail::DomainKeys::VERSION' [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ perl -MMail::DomainKeys -e 'print $Mail::DomainKeys::VERSION' Can't locate Mail/DomainKeys.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.4 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.4

Re: DomainKeys in SA

2005-12-12 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Pollywog wrote on Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:12:06 +: It would seem that the problem is something other than the plugin, perhaps my PERL installation. No, it just seems that the early suggestion to install Mail::DomainKeys confused you. You have to install that Perl module *plus* the SA

Re: DomainKeys in SA

2005-12-12 Thread Pollywog
On 12/13/2005 12:17 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pollywog wrote: perl -MMail::DomainKeys -e 'print $Mail::DomainKeys::VERSION' [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ perl -MMail::DomainKeys -e 'print $Mail::DomainKeys::VERSION' Can't locate Mail/DomainKeys.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl

Re: DomainKeys in SA

2005-12-12 Thread Pollywog
On 12/13/2005 12:31 am, Kai Schaetzl wrote: Pollywog wrote on Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:12:06 +: It would seem that the problem is something other than the plugin, perhaps my PERL installation. No, it just seems that the early suggestion to install Mail::DomainKeys confused you. You have to

Re: DomainKeys in SA

2005-12-12 Thread ard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Justin Mason) writes: It's pretty easy for normal mail transmission to break DK signatures It sure is. Kai's and Pollywog's problems prompted me to investigate why my own DK plugin was not verifying signatures from Yahoo! and gmail.com. I filled SA's DomainKeys plugin and