RE: Server overload, queuing for SA possible?

2009-03-26 Thread Jeff Mincy
From: Bowie Bailey Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:07:23 -0500 Jeff Mincy wrote: > >If I'm reading the spamc man page correctly, it will wait 5 >minutes for spamd to process the message, but it will only wait >about 3 seconds for a connection to spamd (3 tries with

RE: Server overload, queuing for SA possible?

2009-03-26 Thread Bowie Bailey
Jeff Mincy wrote: > >If I'm reading the spamc man page correctly, it will wait 5 >minutes for spamd to process the message, but it will only wait >about 3 seconds for a connection to spamd (3 tries with 1 second >sleep between them). That's not much of a queue. Or am I missing >

RE: Server overload, queuing for SA possible?

2009-03-26 Thread Jeff Mincy
From: Bowie Bailey Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:55:45 -0500 Jeff Mincy wrote: >From: Bowie Bailey >Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:48:30 -0500 > >Brian J. Murrell wrote: >> On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 15:01 -0400, Michael Scheidell wrote: >> > >> > Matc

RE: Server overload, queuing for SA possible?

2009-03-26 Thread Bowie Bailey
Jeff Mincy wrote: >From: Bowie Bailey >Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:48:30 -0500 > >Brian J. Murrell wrote: >> On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 15:01 -0400, Michael Scheidell wrote: >> > >> > Match your MTA processes to the spamd children. Your MTA will >send > > 4xx 'busy now, come

RE: Server overload, queuing for SA possible?

2009-03-26 Thread Jeff Mincy
From: Bowie Bailey Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:48:30 -0500 Brian J. Murrell wrote: > On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 15:01 -0400, Michael Scheidell wrote: > > > > Match your MTA processes to the spamd children. Your MTA will send > > 4xx 'busy now, come back to play later' message.

RE: Server overload, queuing for SA possible?

2009-03-26 Thread Bowie Bailey
Brian J. Murrell wrote: > On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 15:01 -0400, Michael Scheidell wrote: > > > > Match your MTA processes to the spamd children. Your MTA will send > > 4xx 'busy now, come back to play later' message. Let the sending > > MTA queue it back up (or zombies will just go away) > > I don

Re: Server overload, queuing for SA possible?

2009-03-25 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 15:01 -0400, Michael Scheidell wrote: > > Match your MTA processes to the spamd children. Your MTA will send 4xx > 'busy now, come back to play later' message. Let the sending MTA queue it > back up (or zombies will just go away) I don't really see that as a socially resp

Re: Server overload, queuing for SA possible?

2009-03-25 Thread Michael Scheidell
> On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 08:10 -0500, Bowie Bailey wrote: >> >> Your assessment sounds right to me. I would make two suggestions. >> >> 1) Memory is cheap these days. Add some more RAM. > > That's a mitigation strategy, yes, but it doesn't really answer OP's > question about how to make spamd s

RE: Server overload, queuing for SA possible?

2009-03-25 Thread Bowie Bailey
Monky wrote: > Bowie Bailey wrote: > > > > There is a --no-safe-fallback option on spamc which will cause it to > > exit with an error message in the case of any problems (Normally, it > > always exits with a 0 exit status). If you don't want anything to > > go through unscanned, you can try this

RE: Server overload, queuing for SA possible?

2009-03-25 Thread Monky
Bowie Bailey wrote: > > There is a --no-safe-fallback option on spamc which will cause it to > exit with an error message in the case of any problems (Normally, it > always exits with a 0 exit status). If you don't want anything to go > through unscanned, you can try this setting. > >> If I ha

RE: Server overload, queuing for SA possible?

2009-03-24 Thread Bowie Bailey
Brian J. Murrell wrote: > On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 08:10 -0500, Bowie Bailey wrote: > > > > Your assessment sounds right to me. I would make two suggestions. > > > > 1) Memory is cheap these days. Add some more RAM. > > That's a mitigation strategy, yes, but it doesn't really answer OP's > questi

RE: Server overload, queuing for SA possible?

2009-03-24 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 08:10 -0500, Bowie Bailey wrote: > > Your assessment sounds right to me. I would make two suggestions. > > 1) Memory is cheap these days. Add some more RAM. That's a mitigation strategy, yes, but it doesn't really answer OP's question about how to make spamd stop trying t

Re: Server overload, queuing for SA possible?

2009-03-24 Thread Henrik K
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 07:20:52AM -0700, Monky wrote: > > What I make of this is that when my server is using his maximum of 5 spamd > children he hits the RAM limit and starts paging (the explosion of scanning > time). Is this a sensible assessment? How can we assess anything if you keep the cr

RE: Server overload, queuing for SA possible?

2009-03-24 Thread Bowie Bailey
Monky wrote: > Hallo list, > receiving a bunch of obvious spam emails without the SA tags in it > made me look at my logfiles and I found out - thats what I guess - > that for a short time my server was reaching his limits. > Short grep extracts from my logfile: > Mar 21 11:14:48 h1306680 spamd[92