Re: relay distance and spam [was xxxl spam]

2006-04-11 Thread Mark Martinec
On Tuesday April 11 2006 23:17, Kelson wrote: > mouss wrote: > > - multiple "internal" hops at either sender or receiver (I have N > > Received headers added by my own MTA. and for mail fetched from an MSP, > > there are still more). > > Actually, if I'm reading this right, it's the number of I

RE: relay distance and spam [was xxxl spam]

2006-04-11 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
Kelson wrote: > Actually, if I'm reading this right, it's the number of IP hops > between the sending server and the receiving server -- in other > words, how many lines you'd see if you were on the receiving server > and ran traceroute to the sending MTA. Ah... that makes much more sense :) --

Re: relay distance and spam [was xxxl spam]

2006-04-11 Thread Mathias Homann
Am Dienstag, 11. April 2006 22:28 schrieb mouss: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > mouss wrote: > >> I would conjecture that most legitimate mail has two "real" hops > >> (the sending MTA and the receiving MTA). > > > > That would be one hop. > > depends on how you count: > > MUA -> my MTA1 -> y

Re: relay distance and spam [was xxxl spam]

2006-04-11 Thread Kelson
mouss wrote: - multiple "internal" hops at either sender or receiver (I have N Received headers added by my own MTA. and for mail fetched from an MSP, there are still more). Actually, if I'm reading this right, it's the number of IP hops between the sending server and the receiving server -

Re: relay distance and spam [was xxxl spam]

2006-04-11 Thread mouss
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mouss wrote: I would conjecture that most legitimate mail has two "real" hops (the sending MTA and the receiving MTA). That would be one hop. depends on how you count: MUA -> my MTA1 -> your MTA -> your mailbox that's two MTAs, so that's two hops. I prefe

RE: relay distance and spam [was xxxl spam]

2006-04-11 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
mouss wrote: > I would conjecture that most legitimate mail has two "real" hops (the > sending MTA and the receiving MTA). That would be one hop.