SQL Bayes behavior

2009-09-29 Thread pm...@email.it
Hi, I've few question about the behavior of Bayes and SQL. Before the questions, i've followed this tutorial http://www200.pair.com/mecham/spam/debian-spamassassin-sql.html that should be the same thing of this: http://spamassassin.apache.org/full/3.0.x/dist/sql/README.bayes, my db are

Re: SQL Bayes behavior

2009-09-29 Thread Michael Scheidell
pm...@email.it wrote: Hi, I've few question about the behavior of Bayes and SQL. Before the questions, i've followed this tutorial http://www200.pair.com/mecham/spam/debian-spamassassin-sql.html that should be the same thing of this:

Re: SQL Bayes behavior

2009-09-29 Thread Matt Kettler
pm...@email.it wrote: Hi, I've few question about the behavior of Bayes and SQL. Before the questions, i've followed this tutorial http://www200.pair.com/mecham/spam/debian-spamassassin-sql.html that should be the same thing of this:

Re: WEb Frontend for SQL Bayes

2009-07-22 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Wed, July 22, 2009 04:18, Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz wrote: Is there a good frontend that letme to admin SQL Bayes? sa-learn -- xpoint

Re: WEb Frontend for SQL Bayes

2009-07-22 Thread Matt Kettler
Benny Pedersen wrote: On Wed, July 22, 2009 04:18, Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz wrote: Is there a good frontend that letme to admin SQL Bayes? sa-learn That's not exactly a web front-end Benny.

Re: WEb Frontend for SQL Bayes

2009-07-22 Thread Jari Fredriksson
Benny Pedersen wrote: On Wed, July 22, 2009 04:18, Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz wrote: Is there a good frontend that letme to admin SQL Bayes? sa-learn That's not exactly a web front-end Benny. But it leads the OP to the corrent path in his search. OP does NOT want a GUI for SQL

Re: WEb Frontend for SQL Bayes

2009-07-22 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Wed, July 22, 2009 14:20, Matt Kettler wrote: Benny Pedersen wrote: On Wed, July 22, 2009 04:18, Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz wrote: Is there a good frontend that letme to admin SQL Bayes? sa-learn That's not exactly a web front-end Benny. so ? http://www.directadmin.com/forum

Re: WEb Frontend for SQL Bayes

2009-07-22 Thread Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
Le mercredi 22 juillet 2009 07:40:28, Benny Pedersen a écrit : On Wed, July 22, 2009 14:20, Matt Kettler wrote: Benny Pedersen wrote: On Wed, July 22, 2009 04:18, Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz wrote: Is there a good frontend that letme to admin SQL Bayes? sa-learn That's not exactly

Re: WEb Frontend for SQL Bayes

2009-07-22 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Wed, July 22, 2009 16:00, Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz wrote: The if that BAYES is a probabilistic method, therefore it does not matter who uses, it will work. Pitagoras wont mistake jejeje google dovecot antispam, then in imap one can move spam to a spam folder and dovecot then call sa-learn

Re: WEb Frontend for SQL Bayes

2009-07-21 Thread Matt Kettler
Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz wrote: Is there a good frontend that letme to admin SQL Bayes? mysql-admin? What are you looking to do as far as administering bayes? (particularly what would you be doing more than once every 2-3 years)

Re: WEb Frontend for SQL Bayes

2009-07-21 Thread Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
Le mardi 21 juillet 2009 22:11:39, Matt Kettler a écrit : Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz wrote: Is there a good frontend that letme to admin SQL Bayes? mysql-admin? What are you looking to do as far as administering bayes? (particularly what would you be doing more than once every 2-3 years

Re: WEb Frontend for SQL Bayes

2009-07-21 Thread Matt Kettler
Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz wrote: Le mardi 21 juillet 2009 22:11:39, Matt Kettler a écrit : Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz wrote: Is there a good frontend that letme to admin SQL Bayes? mysql-admin? What are you looking to do as far as administering bayes? (particularly what would

Re: WEb Frontend for SQL Bayes

2009-07-21 Thread Robert LeBlanc
Matt Kettler wrote: Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz wrote: Le mardi 21 juillet 2009 22:11:39, Matt Kettler a écrit : Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz wrote: Is there a good frontend that letme to admin SQL Bayes? mysql-admin? What are you looking to do as far as administering bayes

Re: SQL Bayes Store -- initialization of database

2007-01-27 Thread Tom Allison
Tom Allison wrote: I'm trying to initialize a database for Bayes from perl (DIY). I took the advice of others and removed much of this approach and just decide to try running Mail::SpamAssassin as is and let it create the database entry for the specified user. It simply will not create an

Re: SQL Bayes Store -- initialization of database

2007-01-27 Thread Justin Mason
Tom Allison writes: Additionally, when I first run spamd -q -D there is something a little strange. It actually tries to score one email. There aren't any. It's not connected to anything. It also tries to score it as the user I'm starting as. Is this a normal startup process to just dummy

SQL Bayes Store -- initialization of database

2007-01-25 Thread Tom Allison
I'm trying to initialize a database for Bayes from perl (DIY). Using Test::More as a start I tried: can_ok('Mail::SpamAssassin::BayesStore', ('tie_db_readonly')); my $to = 'tom'; my $spamtest = Mail::SpamAssassin-new( {username = $to, debug='all'} ); isa_ok($spamtest, 'Mail::SpamAssassin');

Sitewide SQL bayes?

2006-09-22 Thread Tim Rosmus
SA-3.1.5 I recently moved from individual incoming machine Bayes DBs to a central MySql Bayes that all incoming servers connect to. I noticed that running 'sa-learn --force-expire' on the DB server worked the first time but has done nothing in the last few weeks. A --dump magic shows the

Re: Sitewide SQL bayes?

2006-09-22 Thread Tim Rosmus
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006, Tim Rosmus wrote: |# I then did a 'sa-learn --dump magic' on the DB server and |# also on one of the incoming servers. Why the different |# numbers? (I use bayes_sql_override_username on all) |# Disregard, found the problem. A slight spelling error for the

slow sql bayes store

2006-08-10 Thread David Morton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greetings... On the Maia Mailguard mailing list, we have encountered a number of folks (myself included) that are seeing some slow performance in the bayes storage when using mysql (innodb engine), taking anywhere from .5 to 10 seconds to

RE: slow sql bayes store

2006-08-10 Thread Gary W. Smith
(memory, etc), and any other good information that might help make a better guess. Gary Wayne Smith -Original Message- From: David Morton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 2:28 PM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: slow sql bayes store -BEGIN PGP

Re: slow sql bayes store

2006-08-10 Thread David Morton
] Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 2:28 PM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: slow sql bayes store Greetings... On the Maia Mailguard mailing list, we have encountered a number of folks (myself included) that are seeing some slow performance in the bayes storage when using mysql (innodb

RE: slow sql bayes store

2006-08-10 Thread Gary W. Smith
as well. -Original Message- From: David Morton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 7:39 PM To: Gary W. Smith Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: slow sql bayes store -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This has been seen on a variety of systems

Re: SQL Bayes with Postgres in SUSE9.3

2006-06-22 Thread Justin Mason
Michael Monnerie writes: On Sonntag, 18. Juni 2006 01:37 Michael Monnerie wrote: So my DSN had to contain dbname= and host=, separated via semicolon. Nobody of the devs got anything to say on that? I'm not sure if I did everything correct (at least it works now), at least the

Re: SQL Bayes with Postgres in SUSE9.3

2006-06-22 Thread Michael Monnerie
On Donnerstag, 22. Juni 2006 02:35 Mark Martinec wrote: On Thursday June 22 2006 01:25, Michael Monnerie wrote: On Sonntag, 18. Juni 2006 01:37 Michael Monnerie wrote: So my DSN had to contain dbname= and host=, separated via semicolon. Nobody of the devs got anything to say on that?

Re: SQL Bayes with Postgres in SUSE9.3

2006-06-22 Thread Michael Parker
Michael Monnerie wrote: On Donnerstag, 22. Juni 2006 02:35 Mark Martinec wrote: On Thursday June 22 2006 01:25, Michael Monnerie wrote: On Sonntag, 18. Juni 2006 01:37 Michael Monnerie wrote: So my DSN had to contain dbname= and host=, separated via semicolon. Nobody of the devs got anything

Re: SQL Bayes with Postgres in SUSE9.3

2006-06-22 Thread Michael Monnerie
On Donnerstag, 22. Juni 2006 15:15 Michael Parker wrote: Actually, please re-read the sql/README.bayes file, it specifies where to find the connection string stuff for Pg. Yes I did. It reads: bayes_sql_dsn DBI:driver:database:hostname[:port] bayes_sql_username

Re: SQL Bayes with Postgres in SUSE9.3

2006-06-22 Thread Michael Parker
Michael Monnerie wrote: I would say the docs are not correct, at least to one who is not specialist in configuring DBI. I found the info on the DBI man page, but still the docs here are wrong. You are not reading completely, especially the part that says: For an example of connection to

Re: SQL Bayes with Postgres in SUSE9.3

2006-06-21 Thread Michael Monnerie
On Sonntag, 18. Juni 2006 01:37 Michael Monnerie wrote: So my DSN had to contain dbname= and host=, separated via semicolon. Nobody of the devs got anything to say on that? I'm not sure if I did everything correct (at least it works now), at least the documentation is not

Re: SQL Bayes with Postgres in SUSE9.3

2006-06-21 Thread Mark Martinec
On Thursday June 22 2006 01:25, Michael Monnerie wrote: On Sonntag, 18. Juni 2006 01:37 Michael Monnerie wrote: So my DSN had to contain dbname= and host=, separated via semicolon. Nobody of the devs got anything to say on that? I'm not sure if I did everything correct (at least it works

SQL Bayes with Postgres in SUSE9.3

2006-06-17 Thread Michael Monnerie
Hello, I'm wondering why I need different settings than written anywhere in the documentation. For the first time I tried to use bayes via SQL, and read the README and the wiki. They suggest this in local.cf: bayes_store_module Mail::SpamAssassin::BayesStore::PgSQL bayes_sql_dsn

Re: SQL Bayes with Postgres in SUSE9.3

2006-06-17 Thread Michael Monnerie
On Sonntag, 18. Juni 2006 01:37 Michael Monnerie wrote: Hello, I'm wondering why I need different settings than written anywhere in the documentation. For the first time I tried to use bayes via SQL, and read the README and the wiki. They suggest this in local.cf: bayes_store_module

Re: SQL Bayes

2006-03-25 Thread Jason Frisvold
On 3/21/06, Duane Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dell PowerEdge 2550, Dual P4 2.4 ghz, 2 gig ram, hardware raid5, 4x74 gig 10,000 rpm scsi III drives from Seagate. Hopefully I can get the ram upgraded to 4 gig eventually. I'm not using anything quite as powerful, but innodb has made a

Re: SQL Bayes

2006-03-24 Thread Jim C. Nasby
Peraps a better option would be to have a users table and setup referential integrity. Of course that would do no good for MyISAM, but using that isn't really any better than using BDB, so... On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 09:26:30AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Duane Hill wrote: delete from

Re: SQL Bayes - MyISAM locks a problem?

2006-03-22 Thread Jason Frisvold
On 3/21/06, Andrew Donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jason, if you haven't moved to innodb already, try SHOW PROCESSLIST in mysql. Do you have many threads locked on SELECT FROM bayes_token and INSERT INTO bayes_token? Yep, that's it completely. I had about 100 threads locked, so I am

RE: SQL Bayes

2006-03-21 Thread Gary W. Smith
. -Original Message- From: Jason Frisvold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 6:54 AM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: SQL Bayes Greetings, I'm looking for some fine tuning help. It seems that we are currently I/O limited due to the massive load

SQL Bayes

2006-03-21 Thread Jason Frisvold
Greetings, I'm looking for some fine tuning help. It seems that we are currently I/O limited due to the massive load spamassassin puts on the bayes database. The database is currently about 3.5 Gig, including indices. I have a few questions regarding the operation of Bayes. 1) How effective

Re: SQL Bayes

2006-03-21 Thread Daniel J. Cody
Jason Frisvold wrote: 1) How effective is it really? Will users likely notice a huge change if bayes was disabled? We use a site wide bayes DB, and it's very effective for us. As an example, last week our bayes DB got corrupted and we lost that aspect of scoring for about 3 hours. Our help

Re: SQL Bayes

2006-03-21 Thread Jason Frisvold
On 3/21/06, Gary W. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It appears that you are user per user bayes. If you have a large number of users and performance is becoming an issue you might want to change over to site wide bayes and disable per user. How are you training Bayes? Do you allow the users

Re: SQL Bayes

2006-03-21 Thread Duane Hill
On Tuesday, March 21, 2006 at 2:54:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] confabulated: Greetings, I'm looking for some fine tuning help. It seems that we are currently I/O limited due to the massive load spamassassin puts on the bayes database. The database is currently about 3.5 Gig, including

RE: SQL Bayes

2006-03-21 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
Duane Hill wrote: delete from bayes_token where id = (select id from bayes_vars where username = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'); ... delete from bayes_seen where id = (select id from bayes_vars where username = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'); delete from bayes_expire where id = (select id

Re: SQL Bayes

2006-03-21 Thread Duane Hill
On Tuesday, March 21, 2006 at 5:26:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] confabulated: Duane Hill wrote: delete from bayes_token where id = (select id from bayes_vars where username = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'); ... delete from bayes_seen where id = (select id from bayes_vars where username =

RE: SQL Bayes

2006-03-21 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
Duane Hill wrote: Matthew.van.Eerde wrote: delete from bayes_(token|seen|expire) where id in (select id from bayes_vars where username = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'); Cool! I haven't gotten too deep yet into MySQL. I knew there was a shorter way of doing this. Thanks for the tip!

Re: SQL Bayes

2006-03-21 Thread Duane Hill
On Tuesday, March 21, 2006 at 5:34:31 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] confabulated: Duane Hill wrote: Matthew.van.Eerde wrote: delete from bayes_(token|seen|expire) where id in (select id from bayes_vars where username = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'); Cool! I haven't gotten too deep yet into MySQL. I knew

Re: SQL Bayes

2006-03-21 Thread Michael Parker
The absolute best way to remove users DB entries is this way: sa-learn -u [EMAIL PROTECTED] --clear Michael

Re: SQL Bayes

2006-03-21 Thread Duane Hill
On Tuesday, March 21, 2006 at 6:03:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] confabulated: The absolute best way to remove users DB entries is this way: sa-learn -u [EMAIL PROTECTED] --clear Thanks. I never gave it a thought before now. -- This message is made of 100% recycled electrons.

Re: SQL Bayes

2006-03-21 Thread Jason Frisvold
On 3/21/06, Duane Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am using a per-user configuration here and my DB size currently is sitting at just over 10 gig. All of the tables within the MySQL schema are using the InnoDB storage instead of the MyISAM. I am also using the SA plugin for caching

Re: SQL Bayes

2006-03-21 Thread Duane Hill
On Tuesday, March 21, 2006 at 8:51:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] confabulated: On 3/21/06, Duane Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am using a per-user configuration here and my DB size currently is sitting at just over 10 gig. All of the tables within the MySQL schema are using the InnoDB

Re: SQL Bayes - MyISAM locks a problem?

2006-03-21 Thread Andrew Donkin
Duane Hill has: per-user [...] just over 10 gig [...] InnoDB [...] http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DBIPlugin [...] bayes_vars table has 14,102 rows Jason Frisvold: I'll have to give innodb a try.. :) Thanks for the tip... Jason, if you haven't moved to innodb already, try SHOW

sa-learn for per-user sql bayes

2005-03-08 Thread email builder
Hi, I'm looking for how to tell sa-learn to learn against a per-user Bayes database (in MySQL) instead of learning sitewide. I swear I saw this was going to be in 3.0.2; some kind of change to sa-learn... but a couple hours searching around didn't turn up anything helpful. If I missed

Re: sa-learn for per-user sql bayes

2005-03-08 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
email builder wrote: Hi, I'm looking for how to tell sa-learn to learn against a per-user Bayes database (in MySQL) instead of learning sitewide. I swear I saw this was going to be in 3.0.2; some kind of change to sa-learn... but a couple hours searching around didn't turn up anything helpful.

Re: sa-learn for per-user sql bayes

2005-03-08 Thread email builder
that user's sql-bayes stuff. Looking at the POD docs on the SA website does not show this option, but I do see it in the tarball. I thought the docs on the site would be the most up to date guess not. Thanks much! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired

Re: sa-learn for per-user sql bayes

2005-03-08 Thread email builder
I'm looking for how to tell sa-learn to learn against a per-user Bayes database (in MySQL) instead of learning sitewide. As in manually training the database? sa-learn -u username Can anyone tell me how to verify that a message was learnt correctly for the right user? Running with

DBM vs. SQL Bayes performance, mysql

2005-01-25 Thread Morris Jones
Now that I got SQL Bayes storage running with MySQL, I thought I'd do a quick and dirty performance comparison on sa-learn. I restored backups of 100,512 spam, and 61,653 ham from my current bayes database, then tried sa-learn --spam --mbox of 72 recent spams from my spam folder. Here

Re: DBM vs. SQL Bayes performance, mysql

2005-01-25 Thread Michael Parker
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 08:50:41AM -0800, Morris Jones wrote: Now that I got SQL Bayes storage running with MySQL, I thought I'd do a quick and dirty performance comparison on sa-learn. http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/BayesBenchmark Michael pgpLYtApUp2qA.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: SQL Bayes Database ... not updating?

2004-11-29 Thread Michael Parker
On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 11:59:26PM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote: My local.cf has the following setup: user_scores_dsn dbi:Pg:dbname=centraldb;host=maildb.hub.org;port=5432 user_scores_sql_usernamepgsql user_scores_sql_table userpref bayes_sql_dsn

Re: SQL Bayes Database ... not updating?

2004-11-29 Thread Marc G. Fournier
d'oh ... I searched through the man page looking for 'sql' settings for both, and found the dns/username stuff, but missed the others :( working now, thanks ... On Sun, 28 Nov 2004, Michael Parker wrote: On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 11:59:26PM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote: My local.cf has the

sql/bayes

2004-09-30 Thread Robin Lynn Frank
While I can see the advantage of keeping awl and prefs in a sql database, I can't see an advantage to keeping bayes data in a sql db. Can someone point out an advantage? Would there be any disadvantage in keeping everything except bayese in sql? -- Robin Lynn Frank Director of Operations

Re: sql/bayes

2004-09-30 Thread Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen
On Thursday 30 September 2004 18:05, Robin Lynn Frank wrote: While I can see the advantage of keeping awl and prefs in a sql database, I can't see an advantage to keeping bayes data in a sql db. Can someone point out an advantage? Would there be any disadvantage in keeping everything except