RE: SpamCop listing internal hotmail servers?

2005-09-09 Thread Greg Allen
; From: Dan Hollis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 7:40 PM > To: Greg Allen > Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: RE: SpamCop listing internal hotmail servers? > > > please take this penis waving offlist. this is spamassassin, not > my-dick-is-bigger-than-your-dick. > >

RE: SpamCop listing internal hotmail servers?

2005-09-09 Thread Dan Hollis
please take this penis waving offlist. this is spamassassin, not my-dick-is-bigger-than-your-dick.

RE: SpamCop listing internal hotmail servers?

2005-09-09 Thread Greg Allen
> > > > From where I stand, he's right on the mark. Spamcop is run by morons, > > To insult other system administrators will not help to build a better > society. I only insulted Spamcop admins because they are idiots. Actually, I don't even really consider it an insult. I consider an insult an u

Re: SpamCop listing internal hotmail servers?

2005-09-09 Thread Frank DeChellis DSL
> > On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 07:04:39PM -0700, John Rudd wrote: > > > > On Sep 7, 2005, at 6:23 PM, Michele Neylon:: Blacknight.ie wrote: > > > > >Greg Allen wrote: > > >>Spamcop users are idiots too. When you have end users pushing > > >>the 'this is spam' button when they get an email that they >

Re: SpamCop listing internal hotmail servers?

2005-09-09 Thread Johann Spies
On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 07:04:39PM -0700, John Rudd wrote: > > On Sep 7, 2005, at 6:23 PM, Michele Neylon:: Blacknight.ie wrote: > > >Greg Allen wrote: > >>Spamcop users are idiots too. When you have end users pushing > >>the 'this is spam' button when they get an email that they > >>don't like f

Re: SpamCop listing internal hotmail servers?

2005-09-07 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Jeff Chan wrote: On Wednesday, September 7, 2005, 7:00:59 AM, Pierre Thomson wrote: I've had a rash of FP's in the last few days from hotmail users whose servers are listed at Spamcop.net. I know it's not a SpamAssassin issue per se, but as this DNSBL gives a healthy 3 points to every mail, i

Re: SpamCop listing internal hotmail servers?

2005-09-07 Thread jdow
From: "Jeff Chan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Wednesday, September 7, 2005, 7:00:59 AM, Pierre Thomson wrote: I've had a rash of FP's in the last few days from hotmail users whose servers are listed at Spamcop.net. I know it's not a SpamAssassin issue per se, but as this DNSBL gives a healthy 3 poi

Re: SpamCop listing internal hotmail servers?

2005-09-07 Thread John Rudd
On Sep 7, 2005, at 6:23 PM, Michele Neylon:: Blacknight.ie wrote: Greg Allen wrote: Spamcop users are idiots too. When you have end users pushing the 'this is spam' button when they get an email that they don't like from their own friends or family, well... you get Spamcop. That's a lovely g

Re: SpamCop listing internal hotmail servers?

2005-09-07 Thread Jeff Chan
On Wednesday, September 7, 2005, 3:37:54 PM, Greg Allen wrote: > Spamcop admins are idiots. They have always had issues with allowing major > ISPs such as Hotmail to be listed. Insults won't get you very far. The SpamCop folks have done much to stop spam. They've also put a lot of hard work into

Re: SpamCop listing internal hotmail servers?

2005-09-07 Thread Jeff Chan
On Wednesday, September 7, 2005, 7:00:59 AM, Pierre Thomson wrote: > I've had a rash of FP's in the last few days from hotmail users > whose servers are listed at Spamcop.net. I know it's not a > SpamAssassin issue per se, but as this DNSBL gives a healthy 3 > points to every mail, it drives some

RE: SpamCop listing internal hotmail servers?

2005-09-07 Thread Michele Neylon:: Blacknight.ie
Greg Allen wrote: > Spamcop admins are idiots. They have always had issues with > allowing major ISPs such as Hotmail to be listed. No. Spam is spam. Just because it comes from a major ISP does not lessen that fact. If a major email provider or ISP is a source of spam then they should be listed.

Re: [sa-list] RE: SpamCop listing internal hotmail servers?

2005-09-07 Thread Dan Mahoney, System Admin
down Spamcop score to maybe about 1.5 or 2 points, because of lots of false positives. -Original Message- From: Pierre Thomson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 10:01 AM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: SpamCop listing internal hotmail servers? Hi all, I'

Re: SpamCop listing internal hotmail servers?

2005-09-07 Thread Chr. v. Stuckrad
On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 06:37:54PM -0400, Greg Allen wrote: > As a result, she got our server blacklisted several times and affected about > 400 users. I went round and round with her telling her to knock it off. You don't even need a user to actively report to spamcop. A normal users simple 'vaca

RE: SpamCop listing internal hotmail servers?

2005-09-07 Thread Greg Allen
--- > From: Pierre Thomson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 10:01 AM > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: SpamCop listing internal hotmail servers? > > > Hi all, > > I've had a rash of FP's in the last few days from hotm

SpamCop listing internal hotmail servers?

2005-09-07 Thread Pierre Thomson
Hi all, I've had a rash of FP's in the last few days from hotmail users whose servers are listed at Spamcop.net. I know it's not a SpamAssassin issue per se, but as this DNSBL gives a healthy 3 points to every mail, it drives some ham over the threshold. The only thing that looks unusual in t