Re: US winning war on spam ?!?!?!

2005-12-22 Thread Loren Wilton
> But the reality of the numbers won't stop the FTC from tooting it's own > horn and claiming victory.. Unfortunately for us, this will likely result > in some major spammers unleashing a mass-scale deluge just to show they're > wrong. The best I think we can hope for is that a few of them might ge

Re: US winning war on spam ?!?!?!

2005-12-22 Thread jdow
From: "Matt Kettler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 03:00 PM 12/21/2005, Justin Mason wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matt Kettler writes: > But the reality of the numbers won't stop the FTC from tooting it's own > horn and claiming victory.. Unfortunately for us, this will likel

Re: [OT] US winning war on spam ?!?!?!

2005-12-22 Thread jdow
From: "Matt Kettler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 07:13 PM 12/21/2005, jdow wrote: From: "Martin Hepworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4547474.stm Not according to my statsbut the users don't get the spam anymore ;-) It's the BBC, for crying out loud. They've wipe

Re: US winning war on spam ?!?!?!

2005-12-22 Thread Jim C. Nasby
On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 09:28:26AM -0500, Matt Kettler wrote: > Sounds to me like they're claiming CAN-SPAM is a victory... They aren't > claiming final victory yet, but they are claiming CAN-SPAM is providing > consumer protection by acting as a deterrent and enforcement tool. This is > true,

Re: [OT] US winning war on spam ?!?!?!

2005-12-22 Thread Matt Kettler
At 07:13 PM 12/21/2005, jdow wrote: From: "Martin Hepworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4547474.stm Not according to my statsbut the users don't get the spam anymore ;-) It's the BBC, for crying out loud. They've wiped their own reputation with so many dirty c

Re: US winning war on spam ?!?!?!

2005-12-22 Thread Matt Kettler
At 03:00 PM 12/21/2005, Justin Mason wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matt Kettler writes: > But the reality of the numbers won't stop the FTC from tooting it's own > horn and claiming victory.. Unfortunately for us, this will likely result > in some major spammers unleashin

Re: US winning war on spam ?!?!?!

2005-12-21 Thread jdow
From: "Martin Hepworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4547474.stm Not according to my statsbut the users don't get the spam anymore ;-) It's the BBC, for crying out loud. They've wiped their own reputation with so many dirty cloths they've used it all up. I nev

Greylisting enhancements (was: US winning war on spam ?!?!?!)

2005-12-21 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Wednesday, December 21, 2005 2:39 PM -0500 Matt Kettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Perhaps a better term is "selective greylisting" I'm Using milter-greylists's acls. My default is to whitelist (ie: not greylist) but I have an extensive set of ACLs that use regexes to greylist most dialup

Re: US winning war on spam ?!?!?!

2005-12-21 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matt Kettler writes: > But the reality of the numbers won't stop the FTC from tooting it's own > horn and claiming victory.. Unfortunately for us, this will likely result > in some major spammers unleashing a mass-scale deluge just to show they're

Re: US winning war on spam ?!?!?!

2005-12-21 Thread Matt Kettler
Jim C. Nasby wrote: > On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 11:42:18AM -0500, Matt Kettler wrote: > >>My tagged spam rate at the end of January 2005 (2.8k spam/day) was higher than >>my peak rate in the past month (2.3k spam/day), but I suspect this is largely >>due to the greylist. > > > Dumb question... how

Re: US winning war on spam ?!?!?!

2005-12-21 Thread Jim C. Nasby
On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 11:42:18AM -0500, Matt Kettler wrote: > My tagged spam rate at the end of January 2005 (2.8k spam/day) was higher than > my peak rate in the past month (2.3k spam/day), but I suspect this is largely > due to the greylist. Dumb question... how does one do 'partial greylistin

Re: US winning war on spam ?!?!?!

2005-12-21 Thread Matt Kettler
Stephen Sloan wrote: > The SPAM levels hitting my servers has NEVER been higher. That's not inconsistent with the MX Logic data. While you can't draw any conclusions about it being a "new record high", you also can't draw any conclusions it's not. You can also say November 2005 clearly above the

Re: US winning war on spam ?!?!?!

2005-12-21 Thread Mike Jackson
But the reality of the numbers won't stop the FTC from tooting it's own horn and claiming victory.. Unfortunately for us, this will likely result in some major spammers unleashing a mass-scale deluge just to show they're wrong. The best I think we can hope for is that a few of them might get re

Re: US winning war on spam ?!?!?!

2005-12-21 Thread Stephen Sloan
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Re: US winning war on spam ?!?!?!

2005-12-21 Thread Matt Kettler
At 04:14 AM 12/21/2005, Martin Hepworth wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4547474.stm Not according to my statsbut the users don't get the spam anymore ;-) I find it amusing that most of the stats in that article are the combined affects of spam filters and the can-spam law, b

US winning war on spam ?!?!?!

2005-12-21 Thread Martin Hepworth
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4547474.stm Not according to my statsbut the users don't get the spam anymore ;-) -- Martin Hepworth Snr Systems Administrator Solid State Logic Tel: +44 (0)1865 842300 ** This emai