Re: opinions on greylisting and others

2009-05-25 Thread Arvid Picciani
thanks for your responses. unfortunatly i lost all my local mail when my laptop exploded friday :( does this list have an online archive?

Re: opinions on greylisting and others

2009-05-25 Thread Sahil Tandon
On May 26, 2009, at 4:00 AM, Arvid Picciani a...@exys.org wrote: does this list have an online archive? Yes. Google it.

Re: opinions on greylisting and others

2009-05-24 Thread LuKreme
On 22-May-2009, at 06:14, Arvid Ephraim Picciani wrote: - greylisting I do this to great effect, but not for all servers (see below) - rejecting broken HELO at smtp time (such as MUMS_XP_BOX) Yep, I reject a lot of messages based on helos - rejecting dynamic IPS at smtp time (PBL) I

Re: opinions on greylisting and others

2009-05-24 Thread LuKreme
On 22-May-2009, at 07:29, John Hardin wrote: They will especially get a clue if many sites reject their traffic with a message like your HELO should be your actual public FQDN, you moron. (worded more politely, of course) That about as polite as is necessary for a misconfigured server. --

Re: opinions on greylisting and others

2009-05-24 Thread LuKreme
On 22-May-2009, at 15:30, mouss wrote: on the other hand, you can block some known values/suffixes/ expressions. here are a few recent real life samples dynamic.ranchi.bb.59.92.92.92/24.bsnl.in static.chandigarh.bb.59.94.224.236/24.bsnl.in 161.185.225.124.null.hi.!dynamic.163data.com.cn

Re: opinions on greylisting and others

2009-05-24 Thread John Hardin
On Sun, 24 May 2009, LuKreme wrote: /\.(dsl|\d+dls|dsl\d+)\./ REJECT Dynamic DSL looking address dLs? typo? -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.orgFALaholic #11174 pgpk -a jhar...@impsec.org key: 0xB8732E79 --

Re: opinions on greylisting and others

2009-05-24 Thread LuKreme
On 24-May-2009, at 09:45, John Hardin wrote: On Sun, 24 May 2009, LuKreme wrote: /\.(dsl|\d+dls|dsl\d+)\./ REJECT Dynamic DSL looking address dLs? typo? Yep, thanks for that. -- Anybody who could duck the Vietnam war can certainly duck a couple of shoes. -- Chris

Re: opinions on greylisting and others

2009-05-22 Thread Ned Slider
Arvid Ephraim Picciani wrote: Greetings. I'm thinking of implementing: - greylisting - honeypots - rejecting broken HELO at smtp time (such as MUMS_XP_BOX) - rejecting dynamic IPS at smtp time (PBL) - firewalling hosts with 100% spam, forever. Are there any oposing opinions on those? I

Re: opinions on greylisting and others

2009-05-22 Thread McDonald, Dan
On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 14:14 +0200, Arvid Ephraim Picciani wrote: Greetings. I'm thinking of implementing: - greylisting very effective. I cut my incoming mail by about 80% when we put up greylisting. I'm using sqlgrey. - honeypots - rejecting broken HELO at smtp time (such as

Re: opinions on greylisting and others

2009-05-22 Thread Aaron Wolfe
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 9:06 AM, McDonald, Dan dan.mcdon...@austinenergy.com wrote: On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 14:14 +0200, Arvid Ephraim Picciani wrote: Greetings. I'm thinking of implementing: - greylisting very effective.  I cut my incoming mail by about 80% when we put up greylisting.  I'm

Re: opinions on greylisting and others

2009-05-22 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 22 May 2009, Arvid Ephraim Picciani wrote: Greetings. I'm thinking of implementing: - greylisting - honeypots - rejecting broken HELO at smtp time (such as MUMS_XP_BOX) - rejecting dynamic IPS at smtp time (PBL) - firewalling hosts with 100% spam, forever. Are there any oposing

Re: opinions on greylisting and others

2009-05-22 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 22 May 2009, Aaron Wolfe wrote: On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 9:06 AM, McDonald, Dan dan.mcdon...@austinenergy.com wrote: On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 14:14 +0200, Arvid Ephraim Picciani wrote: - rejecting broken HELO at smtp time  (such as  MUMS_XP_BOX) We had too many false-positives when I

Re: opinions on greylisting and others

2009-05-22 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 22.05.09 06:29, John Hardin wrote: They will especially get a clue if many sites reject their traffic with a message like your HELO should be your actual public FQDN, you moron. (worded more politely, of course) yes, it should be, but you also MUST NOT reject if it is not. There are

Re: opinions on greylisting and others

2009-05-22 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 14:14 +0200, Arvid Ephraim Picciani wrote: Greetings. I'm thinking of implementing: - greylisting On 22.05.09 08:06, McDonald, Dan wrote: very effective. I cut my incoming mail by about 80% when we put up greylisting. I'm using sqlgrey. You apparently don't have

Re: opinions on greylisting and others

2009-05-22 Thread Ned Slider
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 22.05.09 06:29, John Hardin wrote: They will especially get a clue if many sites reject their traffic with a message like your HELO should be your actual public FQDN, you moron. (worded more politely, of course) yes, it should be, but you also MUST NOT

Re: opinions on greylisting and others

2009-05-22 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 22 May 2009, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 22.05.09 06:29, John Hardin wrote: They will especially get a clue if many sites reject their traffic with a message like your HELO should be your actual public FQDN, you moron. (worded more politely, of course) yes, it should be, but you

Re: opinions on greylisting and others

2009-05-22 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On Fri, 22 May 2009, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 22.05.09 06:29, John Hardin wrote: They will especially get a clue if many sites reject their traffic with a message like your HELO should be your actual public FQDN, you moron. (worded more politely, of course) yes, it should be, but

Re: opinions on greylisting and others

2009-05-22 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 22 May 2009, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: I was mentioning cases where someone compares HELO to FQDN and rejects connections if they do not match. That was indicated by the message (even with different wording). Ok, agreed. If they don't match don't reject, just give that a point.

Re: opinions on greylisting and others

2009-05-22 Thread mouss
John Hardin a écrit : On Fri, 22 May 2009, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: I was mentioning cases where someone compares HELO to FQDN and rejects connections if they do not match. That was indicated by the message (even with different wording). Ok, agreed. If they don't match don't reject,

Re: opinions on greylisting and others

2009-05-22 Thread Ned Slider
John Hardin wrote: On Fri, 22 May 2009, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: I was mentioning cases where someone compares HELO to FQDN and rejects connections if they do not match. That was indicated by the message (even with different wording). Ok, agreed. If they don't match don't reject, just

Re: opinions on greylisting and others

2009-05-22 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 22 May 2009, mouss wrote: John Hardin a écrit : On Fri, 22 May 2009, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: I was mentioning cases where someone compares HELO to FQDN and rejects connections if they do not match. That was indicated by the message (even with different wording). Ok, agreed.

Re: opinions on greylisting and others

2009-05-22 Thread mouss
John Hardin a écrit : On Fri, 22 May 2009, mouss wrote: John Hardin a écrit : On Fri, 22 May 2009, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: I was mentioning cases where someone compares HELO to FQDN and rejects connections if they do not match. That was indicated by the message (even with different