On Feb 5, 2015, at 1:03 AM, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote:
LuKreme wrote:
The front actin simply calls sa-update. Do I just
16 1 * * * PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/bin /usr/local/bin/sa-update
/usr/local/bin/sa-compile /usr/local/etc/rc.d/sa-spamd restart
?
Or is there
LuKreme wrote:
The front actin simply calls sa-update. Do I just
16 1 * * * PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/bin /usr/local/bin/sa-update
/usr/local/bin/sa-compile /usr/local/etc/rc.d/sa-spamd restart
?
Or is there a reason not to do that?
The syntax variable=value command is a
Am 06.02.2015 um 01:55 schrieb Martin Gregorie:
On Fri, 2015-02-06 at 00:38 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
you did not get the point
there is also /usr/local/bin, /usr/local/sbin and so on
You don't. You avoid name and version clashes by NOT putting distro
packages on /usr/local and ONLY
John Hardin wrote:
Bob Proulx wrote:
John Hardin wrote:
Bob Proulx wrote:
And that is also why I don't understand the move from /bin/* to
/usr/bin/* and the same for lib and others. That makes the usr part
completely useless. It would be better to move everything from
Rather than learning more about how path and cron works, perhaps just symlink
things like gpg to /usr/bin might be easier. Gpg is used to verify the
authenticity of the update.
Regards,
KAM
On Thu, 2015-02-05 at 08:18 -0500, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
Rather than learning more about how path and cron works, perhaps just symlink
things like gpg to /usr/bin might be easier. Gpg is used to verify the
authenticity of the update.
Regards,
KAM
On my machines anyway, gpg is in
Kevin A. McGrail skrev den 2015-02-05 14:18:
Rather than learning more about how path and cron works, perhaps just
symlink things like gpg to /usr/bin might be easier. Gpg is used to
verify the authenticity of the update.
or remove bad installers of gpg ? :=)
Am 05.02.2015 um 09:21 schrieb LuKreme:
On Feb 5, 2015, at 1:03 AM, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote:
LuKreme wrote:
The front actin simply calls sa-update. Do I just
16 1 * * * PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/bin /usr/local/bin/sa-update
/usr/local/bin/sa-compile
On Thu, 2015-02-05 at 01:21 -0700, LuKreme wrote:
On Feb 5, 2015, at 1:03 AM, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote:
# /bin/sh
# PATH=/bin:/usr/local/bin echo $PATH echo $PATH
/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/root/bin
On 2/5/2015 8:56 AM, Martin Gregorie wrote:
On Thu, 2015-02-05 at 08:18 -0500, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
Rather than learning more about how path and cron works, perhaps just symlink
things like gpg to /usr/bin might be easier. Gpg is used to verify the
authenticity of the update.
Regards,
KAM
Kevin A. McGrail skrev den 2015-02-05 15:55:
I'd be a pot calling a kettle black because I use /usr/local all the
time to build on top of distros.
make install, defaults to /usr/local, but distros must not use that
prefix
working with freebsd lately ? :=)
Am 05.02.2015 um 16:20 schrieb Benny Pedersen:
Kevin A. McGrail skrev den 2015-02-05 15:55:
I'd be a pot calling a kettle black because I use /usr/local all the
time to build on top of distros.
make install, defaults to /usr/local, but distros must not use that prefix
what exactly did you
On 2/5/2015 9:03 AM, Benny Pedersen wrote:
Kevin A. McGrail skrev den 2015-02-05 14:18:
Rather than learning more about how path and cron works, perhaps just
symlink things like gpg to /usr/bin might be easier. Gpg is used to
verify the authenticity of the update.
or remove bad installers of
On Thu, 2015-02-05 at 09:55 -0500, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
On 2/5/2015 9:03 AM, Benny Pedersen wrote:
Kevin A. McGrail skrev den 2015-02-05 14:18:
Rather than learning more about how path and cron works, perhaps just
symlink things like gpg to /usr/bin might be easier. Gpg is used to
Am 05.02.2015 um 16:17 schrieb Kevin A. McGrail:
On 2/5/2015 8:56 AM, Martin Gregorie wrote:
On Thu, 2015-02-05 at 08:18 -0500, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
Rather than learning more about how path and cron works, perhaps just
symlink things like gpg to /usr/bin might be easier. Gpg is used to
John Hardin wrote:
Bob Proulx wrote:
And that is also why I don't understand the move from /bin/* to
/usr/bin/* and the same for lib and others. That makes the usr part
completely useless. It would be better to move everything from
/usr/bin/* up to /bin/* instead and the same for lib
Am 05.02.2015 um 22:50 schrieb Bob Proulx:
Reindl Harald wrote:
schrieb Bob Proulx:
Seeing SHELL=/usr/bin/bash I must comment that the setting is quite
unusual. It would normally be /bin/sh. Or on some systems be
/bin/bash. It is quite unusual to see /usr/bin/bash there
it was /bin/bash
On Thu, 5 Feb 2015, Bob Proulx wrote:
And that is also why I don't understand the move from /bin/* to
/usr/bin/* and the same for lib and others. That makes the usr part
completely useless. It would be better to move everything from
/usr/bin/* up to /bin/* instead and the same for lib and the
Reindl Harald wrote:
schrieb Bob Proulx:
Seeing SHELL=/usr/bin/bash I must comment that the setting is quite
unusual. It would normally be /bin/sh. Or on some systems be
/bin/bash. It is quite unusual to see /usr/bin/bash there
it was /bin/bash in the past but why should i define a
On Thu, 2015-02-05 at 14:50 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote:
I think it should be /bin/sh because standard is better than better.
They are producing gratuitous system differences for no good reason.
If you're using the RedHat Linux or its clones you may have noticed
that /bin/bash and /usr/bin/sh both
Reindl Harald wrote:
schrieb Bob Proulx:
They are producing gratuitous system differences for no good reason.
not true - hence the symlink and they are in the meantime not only fedora,
google will show
And that is also why I don't understand the move from /bin/* to
/usr/bin/* and the
On Thu, 2015-02-05 at 16:06 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote:
Not quite. It was due to the physically small sizes of the media
available at the time. Therefore by necessity what would fit would
fit on the root disk and then the system would bootstrap itself to the
full system with more disks.
Yep.
Am 06.02.2015 um 00:06 schrieb Bob Proulx:
Reindl Harald wrote:
complete nonsense
you can not move anything below /usr/ in the rootfs and if it only because
/usr/local and only move the contents of /usr/bin/ around breaks most setups
and shebangs - get rid of /bin and /sbin while place
On Thu, 5 Feb 2015, Bob Proulx wrote:
John Hardin wrote:
Bob Proulx wrote:
And that is also why I don't understand the move from /bin/* to
/usr/bin/* and the same for lib and others. That makes the usr part
completely useless. It would be better to move everything from
/usr/bin/* up to
LuKreme wrote:
Bob Proulx wrote:
The syntax variable=value command is a /bin/sh syntax which sets the
variable for just that command. In the above sa-update would get the
PATH setting. But then terminates that command.
I’m actually not positive that is the case.
I am positive. :-)
On Fri, 2015-02-06 at 00:38 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
you did not get the point
there is also /usr/local/bin, /usr/local/sbin and so on
You don't. You avoid name and version clashes by NOT putting distro
packages on /usr/local and ONLY putting local and 3rd party developed
non-standard
Hi,
First HPUX 900 certified admin in Canada circa 1982. I too remember those days.
Regards,
Rick
PS. Still under 50 :)
Sent from my iPad
On Feb 5, 2015, at 7:37 PM, Martin Gregorie mar...@gregorie.org wrote:
On Thu, 2015-02-05 at 16:06 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote:
Not quite. It was
On Fri, 06 Feb 2015 01:48:53 +
Martin Gregorie mar...@gregorie.org wrote:
ICL mainframes for me: 1900 initially, then 2903 (in NYC would you
believe) and then 2966 medium rang iron into the early 80. Even the
'66s were using EDS200 and EDS640s.
Oooh, are we comparing greybeards? (I don't
On Thu, 2015-02-05 at 20:02 -0500, Rick Macdougall wrote:
Hi,
First HPUX 900 certified admin in Canada circa 1982. I too remember those
days.
ICL mainframes for me: 1900 initially, then 2903 (in NYC would you
believe) and then 2966 medium rang iron into the early 80. Even the '66s
were
ICL mainframes for me: 1900 initially, then 2903 (in NYC would you
believe) and then 2966 medium rang iron into the early 80. Even the '66s
were using EDS200 and EDS640s.
At the risk of going violently off topic I'd just like to say that,
should you want to see one of these large,
Reindl Harald wrote:
schrieb LuKreme:
Bob Proulx wrote:
The syntax variable=value command is a /bin/sh syntax which sets the
variable for just that command. In the above sa-update would get the
PATH setting. But then terminates that command.
I’m actually not positive that is
On Feb 5, 2015, at 2:28 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
[root@srv-rhsoft:~]$ cat /etc/crontab
SHELL=/usr/bin/bash
PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin
LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
MAILTO=root
HOME=/
PODCAST_THREADS=6
Ah, no, I’ve never touched /etc/crontab. I use sudo crontab -e to edit the
Am 05.02.2015 um 18:44 schrieb Bob Proulx:
Seeing SHELL=/usr/bin/bash I must comment that the setting is quite
unusual. It would normally be /bin/sh. Or on some systems be
/bin/bash. It is quite unusual to see /usr/bin/bash there
it was /bin/bash in the past but why should i define a path
Am 05.02.2015 um 18:46 schrieb LuKreme:
On Feb 5, 2015, at 2:28 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
[root@srv-rhsoft:~]$ cat /etc/crontab
SHELL=/usr/bin/bash
PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin
LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
MAILTO=root
HOME=/
PODCAST_THREADS=6
Ah, no, I’ve never touched /etc/crontab. I
Cron is sending me an error:
error: gpg required but not found! It is not recommended, but you can use
sa-update with the --no-gpg to skip the verification.
However, if I run sa-update -D from the command line, it succeeds:
Feb 4 08:48:26.885 [48573] dbg: logger: adding facilities: all
Feb
Perhaps /usr/local/bin is not on PATH for the cron user?
On 2/4/2015 10:50 AM, LuKreme wrote:
Cron is sending me an error:
error: gpg required but not found! It is not recommended, but you can use
sa-update with the --no-gpg to skip the verification.
However, if I run sa-update -D from the
On Wed, 4 Feb 2015, LuKreme wrote:
On Feb 4, 2015, at 8:57 AM, Joe Quinn jqu...@pccc.com wrote:
Perhaps /usr/local/bin is not on PATH for the cron user?
I don’t understand what you are saying. The crontab lists the full path.
# crontab -l |grep sa-update
16 1 * * *
On Feb 4, 2015, at 8:34 PM, David B Funk dbf...@engineering.uiowa.edu wrote:
On Wed, 4 Feb 2015, LuKreme wrote:
On Feb 4, 2015, at 8:57 AM, Joe Quinn jqu...@pccc.com wrote:
Perhaps /usr/local/bin is not on PATH for the cron user?
I don’t understand what you are saying. The crontab
On Feb 4, 2015, at 8:57 AM, Joe Quinn jqu...@pccc.com wrote:
Perhaps /usr/local/bin is not on PATH for the cron user?
I don’t understand what you are saying. The crontab lists the full path.
# crontab -l |grep sa-update
16 1 * * * /usr/local/bin/sa-update /usr/local/bin/sa-compile
Define your path in the cron script.
LuKreme krem...@kreme.com wrote:
On Feb 4, 2015, at 8:34 PM, David B Funk
dbf...@engineering.uiowa.edu wrote:
On Wed, 4 Feb 2015, LuKreme wrote:
On Feb 4, 2015, at 8:57 AM, Joe Quinn jqu...@pccc.com wrote:
Perhaps /usr/local/bin is not on PATH for the
On Feb 4, 2015, at 9:21 PM, Kevin A. McGrail kmcgr...@pccc.com wrote:
Define your path in the cron script.
The front actin simply calls sa-update. Do I just
16 1 * * * PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/bin /usr/local/bin/sa-update
/usr/local/bin/sa-compile /usr/local/etc/rc.d/sa-spamd
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