Re: train filter based on spam to ex-employees?

2015-02-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.02.2015 um 00:54 schrieb ttgh: @Antony, I particularly appreciated your response (and the spelling of your name). To clarify: I am not saying that all messages to ALL ex-staff are spam, only the messages to specific ex-staff. Also, this email server is acting as relay/filter for an

train filter based on spam to ex-employees?

2015-02-16 Thread ttgh
not as the primary mail store. Thank you for any suggestions! -- View this message in context: http://spamassassin.1065346.n5.nabble.com/train-filter-based-on-spam-to-ex-employees-tp114546.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: train filter based on spam to ex-employees?

2015-02-16 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 16 Feb 2015 at 20:16, ttgh wrote: i saw last week a mail to our previous front-office which left the company in 2007 and i know the sender in person - it was not spam, he just replied to a years old message for whatever reason Thank you, that's an excellent point. In your

Re: train filter based on spam to ex-employees?

2015-02-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.02.2015 um 21:16 schrieb ttgh: i saw last week a mail to our previous front-office which left the company in 2007 and i know the sender in person - it was not spam, he just replied to a years old message for whatever reason Thank you, that's an excellent point. In your example,

Re: train filter based on spam to ex-employees?

2015-02-16 Thread John Hardin
On Mon, 16 Feb 2015, ttgh wrote: Reindl, thank you for the reply but in our situation we have 100% confidence that these old addressees are spam. In any case, that's our risk to bear. Can you offer any suggestions on how to use these old addressees as a 'honeypot' or even an outright ban list?

Re: train filter based on spam to ex-employees?

2015-02-16 Thread ttgh
% positive their incoming email is spam... -- View this message in context: http://spamassassin.1065346.n5.nabble.com/train-filter-based-on-spam-to-ex-employees-tp114546p114558.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: train filter based on spam to ex-employees?

2015-02-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.02.2015 um 20:53 schrieb ttgh: Also I still don't understand why everyone is so reticent to immediately black-list messages based on these 100% known-bad addressess. For instance, is it possible for a bulk spam message to trigger false positives? because we all may have long years

Re: train filter based on spam to ex-employees?

2015-02-16 Thread David Jones
From: ttgh tony.to...@goldenhour.com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 11:44 AM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: train filter based on spam to ex-employees? We get 'waves' of spam which are addressed to both long-time employees (usually executives) as well as long-gone employees. It's

Re: train filter based on spam to ex-employees?

2015-02-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.02.2015 um 18:44 schrieb ttgh: We get 'waves' of spam which are addressed to both long-time employees (usually executives) as well as long-gone employees. It's safe to say that ANYTHING sent to those ex-employees is spam but how do I use those messages as an instant filter for the valid

Re: train filter based on spam to ex-employees?

2015-02-16 Thread ttgh
description should be.) -- View this message in context: http://spamassassin.1065346.n5.nabble.com/train-filter-based-on-spam-to-ex-employees-tp114546p114548.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: train filter based on spam to ex-employees?

2015-02-16 Thread ttgh
-office person was someone tasked with communicating with outside contacts. Also, that their email was still being monitored. -- View this message in context: http://spamassassin.1065346.n5.nabble.com/train-filter-based-on-spam-to-ex-employees-tp114546p114563.html Sent from the SpamAssassin

Re: train filter based on spam to ex-employees?

2015-02-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.02.2015 um 19:10 schrieb ttgh: Reindl, thank you for the reply but in our situation we have 100% confidence that these old addressees are spam. In any case, that's our risk to bear. Can you offer any suggestions on how to use these old addressees as a 'honeypot' or even an outright ban

Re: train filter based on spam to ex-employees?

2015-02-16 Thread John Hardin
On Mon, 16 Feb 2015, ttgh wrote: John, by 'spam corpus' are you referring to the 'spam' side of the Bayesian filter? Correct. If we manually delay/review these known-bad accounts are we creating a window of opportunity for those same messages to pass through to current users? To a

Re: train filter based on spam to ex-employees?

2015-02-16 Thread David B Funk
On Mon, 16 Feb 2015, ttgh wrote: i saw last week a mail to our previous front-office which left the company in 2007 and i know the sender in person - it was not spam, he just replied to a years old message for whatever reason Thank you, that's an excellent point. In your example, however, I

Re: train filter based on spam to ex-employees?

2015-02-16 Thread ttgh
the Pyzor 'discover' command but some of our spam was already being tagged with PYZOR_CHECK=1.985 so I assumed it was working properly. -- View this message in context: http://spamassassin.1065346.n5.nabble.com/train-filter-based-on-spam-to-ex-employees-tp114546p114570.html Sent from

Re: train filter based on spam to ex-employees?

2015-02-16 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 16.02.15 10:44, ttgh wrote: We get 'waves' of spam which are addressed to both long-time employees (usually executives) as well as long-gone employees. It's safe to say that ANYTHING sent to those ex-employees is spam but how do I use those messages as an instant filter for the valid