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Subject: Re: general questions
On 9/10/2012 12:31 PM, John Maher wrote:
Thanks Dave, that was helpful.
I saw the svn prefix in the book but didn't know what it meant.
Your explanation was good.
The scripts are a good idea
to describe it as you do.
John
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From: Les Mikesell [mailto:lesmikes...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 4:29 PM
To: John Maher
Cc: David Chapman; Mark Phippard; users@subversion.apache.org
Subject: Re: general questions
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 3:15 PM, John
there is a better
way, I am just not sure what that way is, yet.
John
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From: Bob Archer [mailto:bob.arc...@amsi.com]
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 5:59 PM
To: John Maher; Thorsten Schöning; users@subversion.apache.org
Subject: RE: general questions
If you think it would require
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 8:32 AM, John Maher jo...@rotair.com wrote:
On our server we have 21 repositories. One of those repositories contains
44 projects (dlls). Each project needs the svn:ignore property set.
You're right, it is not common. But several times I had to leave tortoise
to go
Maher
Cc: Bob Archer; Thorsten Schöning; users@subversion.apache.org
Subject: Re: general questions
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 8:32 AM, John Maher jo...@rotair.com wrote:
On our server we have 21 repositories. One of those repositories
contains 44 projects (dlls). Each project needs
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:38 AM, John Maher jo...@rotair.com wrote:
Thanks Mark!!! That might be exactly what I was looking for. Now I
have an unusual question I don’t know if anyone knows the answer. I may
just try it anyway. What happens if I have more ignores than I need. Will
it
If you think it would require 44 click paths then that is indeed a poor
design.
Do you really have 44 repositories? Or 44 projects in a single repository?
1 click to select the repository, 1 click to select all. I just
turned 44 click paths into 2 clicks. Sounds like your vision
Thanks Bob. Exactly what I was looking for.
John
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From: Bob Archer [mailto:bob.arc...@amsi.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 9:48 AM
To: John Maher; Thorsten Schöning; users@subversion.apache.org
Subject: RE: general questions
If you think it would require 44
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 7:22 AM, John Maher jo...@rotair.com wrote:
Interesting discussion. It appears you have not had the chance to work
with a good wrapper, or maybe you shun guis or something because there
appears to be a strong bias to your statements.
First, let me remind you that you
.
John
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From: Les Mikesell [mailto:lesmikes...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 11:45 AM
To: John Maher
Cc: David Chapman; Mark Phippard; users@subversion.apache.org
Subject: Re: general questions
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 7:22 AM, John Maher jo...@rotair.com
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 11:02 AM, John Maher jo...@rotair.com wrote:
So there is NOTHING the gui can't do that the command
line can except take more time to do something.
What they don't do is let me build on things that already work in
arbitrary ways (especially in other languages and on
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:02:51 +, John Maher wrote:
...
line can except take more time to do something. You're confusing the
steps to design an application with the steps to design a wrapper.
You're confusing a single application with the whole command line
and *everything* it can invoke. In
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 11:48 AM, John Maher jo...@rotair.com wrote:
You don't have to like
guis or programmers. But to say they are not useful or detrimental is a
prejudice that can hurt you because it frankly is not a fact.
I've never said they weren't useful. I've said that they restrict
: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 12:57 PM
To: John Maher
Cc: Les Mikesell; David Chapman; Mark Phippard;
users@subversion.apache.org
Subject: Re: general questions
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:02:51 +, John Maher wrote:
...
line can except take more time to do something. You're confusing the
steps
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:11:08 +, John Maher wrote:
...
I don't understand this statement at all. I'm talking about a simple
wrapper.
Ok, I got that wrong. But exactly for those wrappers there is no point in
trying to do *everything* the CLI can do in the GUI as well. Streamline
the most
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 12:11 PM, John Maher jo...@rotair.com wrote:
You're confusing a single application with the whole command line
and *everything* it can invoke. In your picture that whole set of all
commands available now or in the future is the 'the application' for
which you'd need to
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 1:57 PM, John Maher jo...@rotair.com wrote:
A script is just a subset of a full fledged program. In other words, a
program can do all a script can do and more.
That's the part you don't seem to be getting. A script is a wrapper
around all of your programs and becomes
work? They are programs.
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From: Les Mikesell [mailto:lesmikes...@gmail.com]
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Subject: Re: general questions
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 12
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Subject: Re: general questions
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 12:11 PM, John Maher jo...@rotair.com wrote:
You're confusing a single application with the whole command line
and *everything* it can invoke. In your picture that whole set of all
commands available now
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Subject: Re: general questions
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 1:57 PM, John Maher jo...@rotair.com wrote:
A script is just a subset of a full fledged
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 2:10 PM, John Maher jo...@rotair.com wrote:
Text based
operating systems will be obsolete.
Errr, what? Have google, amazon, facebook, etc. all changed while I
wasn't looking?
But JCL was junk while it was still in use.
So what does that have to do with bourne shell
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 3:10 PM, John Maher jo...@rotair.com wrote:
Sorry I'm not reading anything on unix if I can help it. Text based
operating systems will be obsolete. I know all you text gurus will
argue to your death. But JCL was junk while it was still in use. It
was used only
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 2:20 PM, John Maher jo...@rotair.com wrote:
A script is a wrapper around all of your programs and becomes a
superset of all of them.
lololol that has got to be the most unusual definition I have ever
heard of a script. According to your definition, a macro in a word
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 03:10:57PM -0400, John Maher wrote:
Sorry I'm not reading anything on unix if I can help it.
With that statement, you've made it obvious that you don't actually
understand the capabilities of the CLI. Both CLI and GUI have their
uses, and it's definitely not the case that
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 2:33 PM, John Maher jo...@rotair.com wrote:
So you think 100 years from now people will be entering text based
commands?
Yes, for as long as people think, speak, write and read text, they
will use it to communicate with each other and the machines that
assist them. And
Please keep replies on the mailing list.
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:21 AM, John Maher jo...@rotair.com wrote:
Thanks Mark.
** **
Here’s what I am trying to do: learn subversion. To do this the best I
could come up with is making some test projects and going through the
commands to
Please keep replies on the mailing list.
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:02 PM, John Maher jo...@rotair.com wrote:
Thanks again Mark, you have been helpful. Let me clear some things up.**
**
** **
Let me clear up by what I mean as “local” repository. We have a svn
server which has
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Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 12:35 PM
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Subject: Re: general questions
Please keep replies on the mailing list.
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:02 PM, John Maher jo...@rotair.com wrote:
Thanks again Mark, you have been helpful. Let me clear some
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 1:43 PM, John Maher jo...@rotair.com wrote:
Thanks again, I’m learning.
** **
I appreciate the time put in to help me and I really don’t want to cost
you more time, so I have a couple of yes/no questions.
** **
So the only time to use svnadmin create
On 9/10/2012 10:43 AM, John Maher wrote:
Thanks again, I'm learning.
I appreciate the time put in to help me and I really don't want to
cost you more time, so I have a couple of yes/no questions.
So the only time to use svnadmin create without having a dedicated
server would be a single
Thank you very much. Now I can get back to reading.
John
From: Mark Phippard [mailto:markp...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 3:06 PM
To: John Maher
Cc: users@subversion.apache.org
Subject: Re: general questions
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 1
From: David Chapman [mailto:dcchap...@acm.org]
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 3:12 PM
To: John Maher
Cc: Mark Phippard; users@subversion.apache.org
Subject: Re: general questions
On 9/10/2012 10:43 AM, John Maher wrote:
Thanks again, I'm learning.
I appreciate
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 2:31 PM, John Maher jo...@rotair.com wrote:
The scripts are a good idea, but I was thinking about a gui for the client
side, kinda like Subversion Edge; basically a wrapper for the command line.
Even though my first computer didn’t have a mouse (or hard drive) the gui
Guten Tag John Maher,
am Montag, 10. September 2012 um 21:31 schrieben Sie:
The scripts are a good idea, but I was thinking about a gui for the
client side, kinda like Subversion Edge; basically a wrapper for the
command line. Even though my first computer didn't have a mouse (or
hard drive)
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Subject: Re: general questions
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 2:31 PM, John Maher jo...@rotair.com wrote:
The scripts are a good idea, but I was thinking about a gui for the
client
side, kinda like Subversion Edge; basically a wrapper for the command
line.
Even though my first
On 9/10/2012 12:31 PM, John Maher wrote:
Thanks Dave, that was helpful.
I saw the svn prefix in the book but didn't know what it meant. Your
explanation was good.
The scripts are a good idea, but I was thinking about a gui for the
client side, kinda like Subversion Edge; basically a
Subject: Re: general questions
Guten Tag John Maher,
am Montag, 10. September 2012 um 21:31 schrieben Sie:
The scripts are a good idea, but I was thinking about a gui for the
client side, kinda like Subversion Edge; basically a wrapper for the
command line. Even though my first computer didn't
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 3:15 PM, John Maher jo...@rotair.com wrote:
I don't 100% agree. I've designed lots of guis. And there were times
users discovered a feature I never intended. And I'm not talking about
a bug called a feature. While true that the programmer has a lot to
think about
If you think it would require 44 click paths then that is indeed a poor
design.
Do you really have 44 repositories? Or 44 projects in a single repository?
1 click to select the repository, 1 click to select all. I just turned 44
click paths
into 2 clicks. Sounds like your vision is
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