Re: Zone and Eventlink refresh problem

2012-01-26 Thread Paul Stanton
Just a side note, this has caught a few users over time (since t5.1). Boris' expected behaviour does not seem to me to be too unrealistic an expectation! Depending on your personality type ;) you may even consider this a bug. Maybe the zone re-rendering process should handle this client id c

Re: T 5.3.2 release

2012-01-26 Thread Howard Lewis Ship
I think all my changes for 5.3.2 are in place. On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Massimo Lusetti wrote: > On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Serge Eby wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Is there an ETA for at least a  release candidate for 5.3.2? >> Just curious as some of us are waiting for the spring 3.1 inte

Re: Disable zone update for specific form submit

2012-01-26 Thread David Rees
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo wrote: > On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 19:05:39 -0200, David Rees wrote: >> I've got a form in a zone with multiple submits.  If the user selects >> one of them, I'd like to not do a zone update but instead do regular >> form submit handling (w

Re: T 5.3.2 release

2012-01-26 Thread Massimo Lusetti
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Serge Eby wrote: > Hi, > > Is there an ETA for at least a  release candidate for 5.3.2? > Just curious as some of us are waiting for the spring 3.1 integration fixes. I think it's really close... -- Massimo http://meridio.blogspot.com -

Re: Passing parameters dynamically to jquery dialog

2012-01-26 Thread Russell John-Baptistr
Thanks for the direction...Got it working!! Cheers! On Jan 26, 2012, at 4:03 AM, François Facon wrote: > And also > > The handler of > >class="report" t:zone="myZone" t:context="${host.hostid}"> > > Delete ${host.hostid} > > > something lik

Re: Disable zone update for specific form submit

2012-01-26 Thread Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 19:05:39 -0200, David Rees wrote: I've got a form in a zone with multiple submits. If the user selects one of them, I'd like to not do a zone update but instead do regular form submit handling (want to download a file using BinaryStreamResponse instead of render a zone upda

Disable zone update for specific form submit

2012-01-26 Thread David Rees
I've got a form in a zone with multiple submits. If the user selects one of them, I'd like to not do a zone update but instead do regular form submit handling (want to download a file using BinaryStreamResponse instead of render a zone update). tml looks something like this: Suggestions?

Re: [tynamo-user] [ANNOUNCEMENT] Tapestry-security 0.4.1 released!

2012-01-26 Thread Lenny Primak
Thank you all! Well done. On Jan 26, 2012, at 2:42 AM, Kalle Korhonen wrote: > Tapestry-security, the comprehensive security package for Tapestry > just got a bit more comprehensive with the new 0.4.1 release! 0.4.x is > tested with and meant both for T5.2 and T5.3. > > We picked up the bra

Re: Dynamically contributing a ServletContextListener

2012-01-26 Thread Howard Lewis Ship
Nice to see iFactory participating on the user mailing list! On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Mike Leonardo wrote: > Hi, > > > I'm working with integrating WURFL into my Tapestry app but I need to > conditionally add WURFL's ServletContextListener through Tapestry but I can't > figure out the r

T 5.3.2 release

2012-01-26 Thread Serge Eby
Hi, Is there an ETA for at least a release candidate for 5.3.2? Just curious as some of us are waiting for the spring 3.1 integration fixes. Thanks, /Serge -- View this message in context: http://tapestry-users.832.n2.nabble.com/T-5-3-2-release-tp7227508p7227508.html Sent from the Tapestry Us

Re: Dynamically contributing a ServletContextListener

2012-01-26 Thread Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 14:52:41 -0200, Mike Leonardo wrote: Hi, Hi, Mike! I'm working with integrating WURFL into my Tapestry app but I need to conditionally add WURFL's ServletContextListener through Tapestry but I can't figure out the right "hooks" or contribution that would make this

Dynamically contributing a ServletContextListener

2012-01-26 Thread Mike Leonardo
Hi, I'm working with integrating WURFL into my Tapestry app but I need to conditionally add WURFL's ServletContextListener through Tapestry but I can't figure out the right "hooks" or contribution that would make this possible. I want to avoid anything in my web.xml since my project is also u

Re: T5.3.1 using jQueryMobile

2012-01-26 Thread François Facon
No only, others problems are - use of ajax with data on post for tapestry where jqm use get - redirect after submit not manage by jqm Perhaps a solution would be to use a zone as content pane (dojo user will know what I mean) in order to wrap all the jqm page with a Zone. Clement try this kind of

Re: T5.3.1 using jQueryMobile

2012-01-26 Thread Markus Feindler
Hi, about the preloading page issue: Isn't it sufficient to remove the HTTP-header X-Requested-With XMLHttpRequest, which is used by tapestry to determine ajax requests? > > Original-Nachricht > Datum: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 14:57:38 - > Von: Peter Stavrinides > An: Ta

Re: T5.3.1 using jQueryMobile

2012-01-26 Thread Peter Stavrinides
Hi, I have also started a project using jQueryMobile and am utterly impressed with this little library. Integration with Tapestry was trivial, however I also ran into the same problem as François, jQueryMobile is heavily driven by ajax calls to open dialogues and slide btw pages and also for p

Re: Stuts VS Tapestry - I need some ammo

2012-01-26 Thread Thim Anneesens
It's true that I got allot of answers. Somebody said also something about the documentation and I must agree that the quality of it is impressive. Jumpstart also helps you find solutions to common problems. Tapestry users seem also very vibrant about the technology (I kno

Re: Stuts VS Tapestry - I need some ammo

2012-01-26 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo wrote: > On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 10:49:39 -0200, Christian Grobmeier > wrote: > >> I do this in Struts (with my own S2 json plugin) > > Point to Tapestry, which does this out-of-the-box without plugins! :) Well, in turn I can choose betw

Re: Stuts VS Tapestry - I need some ammo

2012-01-26 Thread Thim Anneesens
I think that the with SEO, clear error pages and graceful degradation I have 3 silver bullets. I just tested graceful degradation and it works perfectly with no extra work in the code and that is something that is not available in Struts 2. As Tiago said, the activation context makes it very

Re: Stuts VS Tapestry - I need some ammo

2012-01-26 Thread Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 10:55:19 -0200, Christian Grobmeier wrote: In Struts you have to do stuff you get for free with Tapestry. You need to take care on this yourself, at least to my knowledge. The only chance is someone (or you) writes a Struts 2 plugin for that, which seems to be a pretty com

Re: migration / porting idea

2012-01-26 Thread Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 10:56:58 -0200, Chris Mylonas wrote: cool - yeah i agree i wouldn't do a line-by-line comparison of code, but a higher level page by page and funtionality etc. learn the db and apply it to tap - can only try it I wouldn't even reuse the page and database structure

Re: Stuts VS Tapestry - I need some ammo

2012-01-26 Thread Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 10:51:33 -0200, Christian Grobmeier wrote: I am sorry. I meant "optimized for SEO". I do not use ajax for "standard" content, which then can be easily optimized for SEO using S2 Tapestry has SEO built-in: pages and their activation context. For when this is not enough,

Re: Stuts VS Tapestry - I need some ammo

2012-01-26 Thread Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 10:49:39 -0200, Christian Grobmeier wrote: I do this in Struts (with my own S2 json plugin) Point to Tapestry, which does this out-of-the-box without plugins! :) @JSON class MyAction { @JSON private Map results = ...; } Thanks for the example. :) Does it suppo

Re: migration / porting idea

2012-01-26 Thread Chris Mylonas
cool - yeah i agree i wouldn't do a line-by-line comparison of code, but a higher level page by page and funtionality etc. learn the db and apply it to tap - can only try it i.e. a block is a block (like sidebar in demo tap app) the nav is the same modules like blog & taxonomy would be easil

Re: Stuts VS Tapestry - I need some ammo

2012-01-26 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Lance Java wrote: >> When it comes to SEO I think you'll find this link interesting: >> > http://code.google.com/intl/de-DE/web/ajaxcrawling/docs/getting-started.html > > I have come across this page before and it looks like a whole lot of rules > and processes tha

Re: Stuts VS Tapestry - I need some ammo

2012-01-26 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo wrote: > On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 09:05:33 -0200, Christian Grobmeier > wrote: > >> I expect my users to have JS on these days. And if I need JS I do a >> webapplication, not just a website. Websites can be easily optimized >> with Struts2

Re: Stuts VS Tapestry - I need some ammo

2012-01-26 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo wrote: > On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 08:03:17 -0200, Christian Grobmeier > wrote: > I can't imagine how doing this in Tapestry wouldn't be easier than Struts, > any version: > > package a.b.c.pages; > > public class JsonResponse { > >      

Re: migration / porting idea

2012-01-26 Thread Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 04:31:57 -0200, Chris Mylonas wrote: Hi Tap List - Hi! Short version: Drupal -> Tapestry port - has anyone done something similar with _any_ CMS to tapestry? I wouldn't do a code port. PHP is way too different from Java and Tapestry, so the Drupal code (or any

Re: Stuts VS Tapestry - I need some ammo

2012-01-26 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo wrote: > Yep, Struts 2 isn't bad, but Tapestry and almost any other > component-oriented framework, even JSF, is way better than Struts 2. And > please, never ever think about adopting Struts 1. It sucks in every single > way possible

Re: Stuts VS Tapestry - I need some ammo

2012-01-26 Thread Lance Java
> When it comes to SEO I think you'll find this link interesting: > http://code.google.com/intl/de-DE/web/ajaxcrawling/docs/getting-started.html I have come across this page before and it looks like a whole lot of rules and processes that need to be in place in order to support ajax crawlable site

Re: Stuts VS Tapestry - I need some ammo

2012-01-26 Thread Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 06:33:14 -0200, Thim Anneesens wrote: Hello Tapestry users, Hi! Many people said many good reasons. I'd just add the community (the mailing list usually provides very good answers in very short times), the framework flexibility (you have at least one way to change a

Re: Stuts VS Tapestry - I need some ammo

2012-01-26 Thread Chris Mylonas
Thiago, your previous replies were the reason I dodged java web frameworks since early 2000 til now...you know your stuff... on the below reply - because of this list's experience (as apposed to my lay(simple) outlook on it all), would it be possible to make a comparison page of "common requir

Re: Stuts VS Tapestry - I need some ammo

2012-01-26 Thread Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 09:05:33 -0200, Christian Grobmeier wrote: I expect my users to have JS on these days. And if I need JS I do a webapplication, not just a website. Websites can be easily optimized with Struts2. Webapplications - well do I need or even want to crawl calculations or some oth

Re: Stuts VS Tapestry - I need some ammo

2012-01-26 Thread Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 08:03:17 -0200, Christian Grobmeier wrote: Hey guys, Hi! love. On Struts side I enjoy the easiness: make up an action and return json. I can't imagine how doing this in Tapestry wouldn't be easier than Struts, any version: package a.b.c.pages; public class Json

Re: Stuts VS Tapestry - I need some ammo

2012-01-26 Thread Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
Oops, I've accidentally hit the send button too early. On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 08:03:17 -0200, Christian Grobmeier wrote: Hey guys, Hi! while I agree that T5 is amazing I must say Struts2 is not so bad as it is discussed here. Yep, Struts 2 isn't bad, but Tapestry and almost any other comp

Re: Stuts VS Tapestry - I need some ammo

2012-01-26 Thread Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 08:03:17 -0200, Christian Grobmeier wrote: Hey guys, Hi! while I agree that T5 is amazing I must say Struts2 is not so bad as it is discussed here. Yep, Struts 2 isn't bad, but Tapestry and almost any other component-oriented framework, even JSF, is way better tha

Re: Stuts VS Tapestry - I need some ammo

2012-01-26 Thread Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 09:12:41 -0200, Christian Grobmeier wrote: Struts 1 is totally different to Struts 2. I'd say Struts 2 (which is a rebranded WebWork) is the essence of Struts 1 but implemented in way better way. But it's still request-oriented, it's still Struts, it's still using a

Re: Stuts VS Tapestry - I need some ammo

2012-01-26 Thread derkoe
Thim Anneesens wrote > > Hello Tapestry users, > Hi! Thim Anneesens wrote > > The company where I work is going to choose a web framework to implement > there site (the company core business revolves around that site). We did > a POC with Spirng MVC, JSF, Struts and Tapestry. > We have sho

Re: Tap 5.3.x : Set field value(s) AFTER transformation

2012-01-26 Thread antalk
Cool, Thx, that was a simple solution and it worked ! I must have had some blackout not seeing this myself -- View this message in context: http://tapestry.1045711.n5.nabble.com/Tap-5-3-x-Set-field-value-s-AFTER-transformation-tp5432669p5432717.html Sent from the Tapestry - User mailing li

Re: Tap 5.3.x : Set field value(s) AFTER transformation

2012-01-26 Thread Taha Hafeez Siddiqi
Hi Get the handle outside the advise and then use it inside. regards Taha On Jan 26, 2012, at 5:20 PM, antalk wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm in the process of converting our webapp to Tap5.3 and have come across > the following issue: After a class has been transformed by plastic i want to > update

Tap 5.3.x : Set field value(s) AFTER transformation

2012-01-26 Thread antalk
Hi all, I'm in the process of converting our webapp to Tap5.3 and have come across the following issue: After a class has been transformed by plastic i want to update a value within that class, but to get and change the fields contents i use 'getHandle()' however, in the javadoc is states that 'No

Re: Stuts VS Tapestry - I need some ammo

2012-01-26 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Struts 1 is totally different to Struts 2. I use Apache Cayenne with Struts 2, this saves me lots on persistence layer too. On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Akira Ikeda wrote: > Don't know about Struts2 but last time i worked on a project using Struts it > have duplicated code everywhere eg: ac

Re: Stuts VS Tapestry - I need some ammo

2012-01-26 Thread Akira Ikeda
Don't know about Struts2 but last time i worked on a project using Struts it have duplicated code everywhere eg: action façade, dao's, dto's...the dtos were script generated but still was duplicated code. If the project had used Tapestry it would be something like ~ 20 % less code to write (or l

Re: Stuts VS Tapestry - I need some ammo

2012-01-26 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Please don't get me wrong, there are many things in which Tapestry beats other frameworks. Not only Struts. Look at the hyped Wicket framework. I have used it and can say I really dislike it. It is utterly complex and the docs are the worst thing I have ever seen. With Tapestry I could create a sim

Re: Stuts VS Tapestry - I need some ammo

2012-01-26 Thread Chris Mylonas
well if i wasn't a techo i'd ask how many of the staff are familiar with X first up. then being a web framework, can the business layer be developed without the web work being done (i.e. can it be separated later when the next round of framework vs framework comes) tapestry5 is the first

Re: Stuts VS Tapestry - I need some ammo

2012-01-26 Thread Lance Java
One killer argument is SEO (search engine optimisation). Is your webapp publicly available and do you want to appear high in google results? Whilst google's algorithms are hidden, it is known that if searching for a ferarri, a site like www.mysite.com/cars/ferarri will appear higher in the searc

Re: Stuts VS Tapestry - I need some ammo

2012-01-26 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hey guys, while I agree that T5 is amazing I must say Struts2 is not so bad as it is discussed here. There are far more bad frameworks out there. At least S2 is not dead, it is actively maintained and developed. Anyway - T5 does have some pretty cool features (class reloading, it is amazing, or co

Re: Stuts VS Tapestry - I need some ammo

2012-01-26 Thread Dmitriy Vsekhvalnov
Seriously? Struts vs. T5? Go look to market which people you can find more easily & cheaper. At the very end someone have to support the app. Personally i will never go to pick-up struts job because it is dead. Unless you pay me significant more for my wasted time :) T5 simply the best web-fram

Re: Stuts VS Tapestry - I need some ammo

2012-01-26 Thread Thim Anneesens
Thanks for the ammo guys ;). Thim. On 01/26/2012 10:20 AM, Kalle Korhonen wrote: (Thim, you don't know what poor English is...) It's always difficult to win these arguments on technical merits alone, especially because they are often looked at one-by-one inst

Re: Stuts VS Tapestry - I need some ammo

2012-01-26 Thread Kalle Korhonen
(Thim, you don't know what poor English is...) It's always difficult to win these arguments on technical merits alone, especially because they are often looked at one-by-one instead of as a whole. If at all possible, try to find an angle that your organization or your manager deeply cares about. Fo

Re: Stuts VS Tapestry - I need some ammo

2012-01-26 Thread Gunnar Eketrapp
I forgot one thing! Line-Precise-Error-Reporting ! The elegent error handling in Tapestry is one of the strongest point. I did not see that in you list. If your developers are like me they sometimes make errors. LPER leads to faster development. Together with live class reloading it's a wi

Re: Stuts VS Tapestry - I need some ammo

2012-01-26 Thread Gunnar Eketrapp
Clean and readable Having worked with Spring MVC, JSP, Struts and finally found Tapestry I can just tell that a web project gets much much more "Clean and Readable" when choosing T5. The elegant page and component folder structure leads to an easy-to-locate whatever you are searching for. I

Re: Passing parameters dynamically to jquery dialog

2012-01-26 Thread François Facon
And also The handler of Delete ${host.hostid} something like @OnEvent(value = EventConstants.ACTION) Object showDetail(int hostid) { if (!request.isXHR()) { return this; } host.hostid = hostid; return myZone; } on server s

[ANNOUNCEMENT] Tapestry-security 0.4.1 released!

2012-01-26 Thread Kalle Korhonen
Tapestry-security, the comprehensive security package for Tapestry just got a bit more comprehensive with the new 0.4.1 release! 0.4.x is tested with and meant both for T5.2 and T5.3. We picked up the brand new Apache Shiro 1.2.0 release of which development snapshots we've been running against fo

Stuts VS Tapestry - I need some ammo

2012-01-26 Thread Thim Anneesens
Hello Tapestry users, The company where I work is going to choose a web framework to implement there site (the company core business revolves around that site). We did a POC with Spirng MVC, JSF, Struts and Tapestry. We have shortlisted to Struts and Tapestry and I have the feeling that Struts