Re: Re: Re: [newbie] Spring vs Hivemind

2006-11-22 Thread Sam Gendler
We use Spring 1.2, but long ago wrote our own subclass of ApplicationContext that will grab context override files from elsewhere (including the local filesystem rather than the classpath). It offers pretty much the exact functionality you are looking for. I'm sure it can be applied to spring 2.0

Re: Re: [newbie] Spring vs Hivemind

2006-11-22 Thread Daniel Tabuenca
ogether its config from different jars on the classpath like HiveMind does? Or do you still need to have a "master application.xml" and and do manual includes? > -Original Message- > From: Daniel Tabuenca [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 10:18 A

RE: Re: [newbie] Spring vs Hivemind

2006-11-22 Thread Marcus.Schulte
el Tabuenca [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 10:18 AM > To: Tapestry users > Subject: Re: Re: [newbie] Spring vs Hivemind > > Spring 2.0 has singleton/prototype/request/session/global > session/ and custom scopes. It should be noted that spring'

Re: Re: [newbie] Spring vs Hivemind

2006-11-22 Thread Daniel Tabuenca
Spring 2.0 has singleton/prototype/request/session/global session/ and custom scopes. It should be noted that spring's prototype scope is different from hivemind in that an object is created every time a referencing dependency is set or when one requests it directly via a getBean("beanName"). In t

RE: Re: [newbie] Spring vs Hivemind

2006-11-22 Thread Marcus.Schulte
a [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 9:49 AM > To: Tapestry users > Subject: Re: Re: [newbie] Spring vs Hivemind > > While we're on the subject, am I correct in my assessment > that the only feature that hivemind has that spring does not > is t

Re: Re: [newbie] Spring vs Hivemind

2006-11-22 Thread Daniel Tabuenca
While we're on the subject, am I correct in my assessment that the only feature that hivemind has that spring does not is the whole configuration point /contribution system? It's been a while since I've really used hivemind so I may be wrong. On 11/22/06, Kalle Korhonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: Re: [newbie] Spring vs Hivemind

2006-11-22 Thread Kalle Korhonen
I think Sam put it pretty well. Cyrille, you should also read the other thread "Tapernate access multiple database" that touches the Hivemind/Spring subject. I often think the primary use scenarios of commons-logging and log4j are analogous to Hivemind and Spring. If you are building a library or

Re: [newbie] Spring vs Hivemind

2006-11-21 Thread Daniel Tabuenca
I find spring easier to use. There's not much difference in what the two can do in terms of dependency injection. The one thing that makes hivemind different is the whole configuration point/ contribution idea which makes it easier for things to plug right in by simply dropping a properly configur

Re: [newbie] Spring vs Hivemind

2006-11-21 Thread Andrea Chiumenti
Go well with hivemind, because it can do everything Spring does (and sometime even better). However a look @ Spring can enforce your skill ;-P kiuma On 11/21/06, Cyrille37 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, I'm new with Tapestry. I've selected Tapestry for my future project because of its simp

Re: Re: [newbie] Spring vs Hivemind

2006-11-21 Thread Sam Gendler
It depends entirely on the context of the app. Tap has some dependancies on hivemind, so you will wind up dealing with hivemind and hivemind configs to some extent no matter which solution you use. However, the spring integration is very easy to use, and it is easily possible to keep all of the l

[newbie] Spring vs Hivemind

2006-11-21 Thread Cyrille37
Hello, I'm new with Tapestry. I've selected Tapestry for my future project because of its simplicity and its wysiwyg capabilities. I'd done well the tutorial, and have workbench example running well. That's great ;-) By the way, here are some questions : Should I learn and use Spring with Ta