Re: Re: [newbie] Spring vs Hivemind

2006-11-22 Thread Kalle Korhonen
I think Sam put it pretty well. Cyrille, you should also read the other thread Tapernate access multiple database that touches the Hivemind/Spring subject. I often think the primary use scenarios of commons-logging and log4j are analogous to Hivemind and Spring. If you are building a library or

Re: Re: [newbie] Spring vs Hivemind

2006-11-22 Thread Daniel Tabuenca
While we're on the subject, am I correct in my assessment that the only feature that hivemind has that spring does not is the whole configuration point /contribution system? It's been a while since I've really used hivemind so I may be wrong. On 11/22/06, Kalle Korhonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Re: [newbie] Spring vs Hivemind

2006-11-22 Thread Daniel Tabuenca
Spring 2.0 has singleton/prototype/request/session/global session/ and custom scopes. It should be noted that spring's prototype scope is different from hivemind in that an object is created every time a referencing dependency is set or when one requests it directly via a getBean(beanName). In

RE: Re: [newbie] Spring vs Hivemind

2006-11-22 Thread Marcus.Schulte
PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 10:18 AM To: Tapestry users Subject: Re: Re: [newbie] Spring vs Hivemind Spring 2.0 has singleton/prototype/request/session/global session/ and custom scopes. It should be noted that spring's prototype scope is different from hivemind

Re: Re: [newbie] Spring vs Hivemind

2006-11-22 Thread Daniel Tabuenca
: Re: [newbie] Spring vs Hivemind Spring 2.0 has singleton/prototype/request/session/global session/ and custom scopes. It should be noted that spring's prototype scope is different from hivemind in that an object is created every time a referencing dependency is set or when one requests

Re: Re: Re: [newbie] Spring vs Hivemind

2006-11-22 Thread Sam Gendler
We use Spring 1.2, but long ago wrote our own subclass of ApplicationContext that will grab context override files from elsewhere (including the local filesystem rather than the classpath). It offers pretty much the exact functionality you are looking for. I'm sure it can be applied to spring 2.0

Re: Re: [newbie] Spring vs Hivemind

2006-11-21 Thread Sam Gendler
It depends entirely on the context of the app. Tap has some dependancies on hivemind, so you will wind up dealing with hivemind and hivemind configs to some extent no matter which solution you use. However, the spring integration is very easy to use, and it is easily possible to keep all of the

Re: [newbie] Spring vs Hivemind

2006-11-21 Thread Andrea Chiumenti
Go well with hivemind, because it can do everything Spring does (and sometime even better). However a look @ Spring can enforce your skill ;-P kiuma On 11/21/06, Cyrille37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'm new with Tapestry. I've selected Tapestry for my future project because of its

Re: [newbie] Spring vs Hivemind

2006-11-21 Thread Daniel Tabuenca
I find spring easier to use. There's not much difference in what the two can do in terms of dependency injection. The one thing that makes hivemind different is the whole configuration point/ contribution idea which makes it easier for things to plug right in by simply dropping a properly