Re: Compatibility, 32 bit ..

2022-11-04 Thread Mark Thomas
On 03/11/2022 11:48, John Dale (DB2DOM) wrote: Greetings - thanks for the pointer below. Brought up some interesting questions below. How do changes at Oracle affect Tomcat? Has OpenJRE sufficiently insulated the risk? What changes at Oracle? What risk? There isn't anything that i am partic

Re: Compatibility, 32 bit ..

2022-11-04 Thread Mark Thomas
On 03/11/2022 12:29, John Dale (DB2DOM) wrote: Is Tomcat's HTTP/S processing libraries modular and portable? That depends on how you define "HTTP/S processing libraries", "modular" and "portable". Can you take then and use them with something else where you just need HTTP/S and no servlet A

Re: Compatibility, 32 bit ..

2022-11-03 Thread John Dale (DB2DOM)
Is Tomcat's HTTP/S processing libraries modular and portable? On 11/3/22, Mark Thomas wrote: > On 02/11/2022 18:51, Christopher Schultz wrote: >> John, >> >> On 11/2/22 14:32, John Dale (DB2DOM) wrote: >>> On 11/2/22, Christopher Schultz wrote: John, On 11/2/22 12:44, John Dale

Re: Compatibility, 32 bit ..

2022-11-03 Thread John Dale (DB2DOM)
Greetings - thanks for the pointer below. Brought up some interesting questions below. How do changes at Oracle affect Tomcat? Has OpenJRE sufficiently insulated the risk? What would you say is the best O/R M tool for tomcat that still keeps coding hands-on with respect to connection management

Re: Compatibility, 32 bit ..

2022-11-03 Thread Mark Thomas
On 02/11/2022 18:51, Christopher Schultz wrote: John, On 11/2/22 14:32, John Dale (DB2DOM) wrote: On 11/2/22, Christopher Schultz wrote: John, On 11/2/22 12:44, John Dale (DB2DOM) wrote: I'd like to continue to invest in Raspberry Pi, but also try to put together a functional 32bit build of

Re: Compatibility, 32 bit ..

2022-11-02 Thread Christopher Schultz
John, On 11/2/22 14:32, John Dale (DB2DOM) wrote: On 11/2/22, Christopher Schultz wrote: John, On 11/2/22 12:44, John Dale (DB2DOM) wrote: I'd like to continue to invest in Raspberry Pi, but also try to put together a functional 32bit build of my software for those poor old neglected closete

Re: [OT] Compatibility, 32 bit ..

2022-11-02 Thread Christopher Schultz
John, On 11/2/22 14:28, John Dale (DB2DOM) wrote: On 11/2/22, Christopher Schultz wrote: If you are bemoaning the Linux kernel dropping support for i486, you might want to read about /why/ they are doing it. Honestly I'm not much of a bomoaner. I am pretty conservative when it comes to thr

Re: Compatibility, 32 bit ..

2022-11-02 Thread John Dale (DB2DOM)
On 11/2/22, Christopher Schultz wrote: > John, > > On 11/2/22 12:44, John Dale (DB2DOM) wrote: >> I'd like to continue to invest in Raspberry Pi, but also try to put >> together a functional 32bit build of my software for those poor old >> neglected closeted towers (really, poor things!). >> >> I

Re: [OT] Compatibility, 32 bit ..

2022-11-02 Thread John Dale (DB2DOM)
On 11/2/22, Christopher Schultz wrote: > John, > > On 11/2/22 12:41, John Dale (DB2DOM) wrote: > > > > [snip] > > >> I love some of the newer hardware, too, but even Raspberry Pi is not >> yet 64 bit, is it? > > It depends on which one. The Wikipedia article on RPi lists 4 different > units, 3

Re: Compatibility, 32 bit ..

2022-11-02 Thread Christopher Schultz
John, On 11/2/22 12:44, John Dale (DB2DOM) wrote: I'd like to continue to invest in Raspberry Pi, but also try to put together a functional 32bit build of my software for those poor old neglected closeted towers (really, poor things!). I should be able to do it, from the looks of this. Are you

Re: [OT] Compatibility, 32 bit ..

2022-11-02 Thread Christopher Schultz
John, On 11/2/22 12:41, John Dale (DB2DOM) wrote: > > [snip] > I love some of the newer hardware, too, but even Raspberry Pi is not yet 64 bit, is it? It depends on which one. The Wikipedia article on RPi lists 4 different units, 3 of which are 64-bit. > [snip] > Can an old 32 bit machine

Re: [OT] Compatibility, 32 bit ..

2022-11-02 Thread John Dale (DB2DOM)
Excellent! My confusion was due to the slow-coming 64 bit OS release. Thanks for clearing that up. I'm using the 64 bit version on most of my devices. John On 11/2/22, Felix Schumacher wrote: > > Am 02.11.22 um 17:41 schrieb John Dale (DB2DOM): >> Chris enters the room, gazes upon seven orcs

Re: [OT] Compatibility, 32 bit ..

2022-11-02 Thread Felix Schumacher
Am 02.11.22 um 17:41 schrieb John Dale (DB2DOM): Chris enters the room, gazes upon seven orcs, draws his sword, and opens the can of worms. Ooooh .. Philosophy. I love philosophy. :) Good philosophy starts with good questions. I love some of the newer hardware, too, but even Raspberry Pi is

Re: Compatibility, 32 bit ..

2022-11-02 Thread John Dale (DB2DOM)
I'd like to continue to invest in Raspberry Pi, but also try to put together a functional 32bit build of my software for those poor old neglected closeted towers (really, poor things!). I should be able to do it, from the looks of this. Are you guys doing any kind of pruned down version of Tomcat

Re: [OT] Compatibility, 32 bit ..

2022-11-02 Thread John Dale (DB2DOM)
Chris enters the room, gazes upon seven orcs, draws his sword, and opens the can of worms. Ooooh .. Philosophy. I love philosophy. :) Good philosophy starts with good questions. I love some of the newer hardware, too, but even Raspberry Pi is not yet 64 bit, is it? The dell computer that I'm

Re: Compatibility, 32 bit ..

2022-11-02 Thread Christopher Schultz
John, On 10/28/22 10:46, John Dale (DB2DOM) wrote: I see .. Mark and/or Christopher - this means that no Tomcat 10, right? https://tomcat.apache.org/whichversion.html Tomcat 10.0, yes. Tomcat 10.1, no. Tomcat 10.0 has been superseded and will not get any further updates, thus you should not

Re: [OT] Compatibility, 32 bit ..

2022-11-02 Thread Christopher Schultz
John, On 10/27/22 11:03, John Dale (DB2DOM) wrote: Does anyone know of a report detailing how much of this older hardware is still out there and floating around? You mean like a list of all pieced of hardware ever sold and never scrapped? I think that would be practically impossible. I have

Re: Compatibility, 32 bit ..

2022-10-28 Thread John Dale (DB2DOM)
I see .. Mark and/or Christopher - this means that no Tomcat 10, right? On 10/28/22, Konstantin Kolinko wrote: > чт, 27 окт. 2022 г. в 18:02, John Dale (DB2DOM) : >> >> I had the same thought when I saw it. Here is java -version output >> complete: >> >> openjdk version "9-internal" >> OpenJDK R

Re: Compatibility, 32 bit ..

2022-10-28 Thread Konstantin Kolinko
чт, 27 окт. 2022 г. в 18:02, John Dale (DB2DOM) : > > I had the same thought when I saw it. Here is java -version output complete: > > openjdk version "9-internal" > OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 9-internal+0-2016-04-14-195526.buildd.src) > OpenJDK Server VM (build 9-internal+0-2016-04-14-195

Re: [OT] Compatibility, 32 bit ..

2022-10-27 Thread John Dale (DB2DOM)
Does anyone know of a report detailing how much of this older hardware is still out there and floating around? Big picture: It's a lot of computer power in the event manufacturing hits a hiccup, I wouldn't want to be caught flat-footed until it could be re-established. I like to build distilled p

Re: Compatibility, 32 bit ..

2022-10-27 Thread John Dale (DB2DOM)
I had the same thought when I saw it. Here is java -version output complete: openjdk version "9-internal" OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 9-internal+0-2016-04-14-195526.buildd.src) OpenJDK Server VM (build 9-internal+0-2016-04-14-195526.buildd.src, mixed mode) On 10/26/22, Christopher Schult

Re: [OT] Compatibility, 32 bit ..

2022-10-26 Thread Christopher Schultz
Shawn, On 10/26/22 00:14, Shawn Heisey wrote: The Linux kernel dropped support for 386 and 486 CPUs some time ago. I was reading about this today, actually. Linux is currently actively advocating for dropping 486 support, so it must still be in there. -chris ---

Re: Compatibility, 32 bit ..

2022-10-26 Thread Christopher Schultz
John, On 10/24/22 12:00, John Dale (DB2DOM) wrote: Hi Mark; Tomcat version: 10.0.27 (unzipped, chmod 770 on catalina.sh before cli: catalina.sh run) java version: openjdk version "9-internal" This looks fishy. Version "9-internal"? Is that a real version? How about you post the result of: $

Re: Compatibility, 32 bit ..

2022-10-26 Thread Greg Huber
...With the rising cost of electricity a new server will pay for itself, skip them.😉   Modern servers use 75% less energy. On 24/10/2022 02:01, John Dale (DB2DOM) wrote: Hi Everyone; I've had a few requests to refurbish some old 32 bit dell towers. So, I'm throwing ubuntu on them and bringing

Re: Compatibility, 32 bit ..

2022-10-25 Thread Shawn Heisey
On 10/24/22 13:16, Mark Thomas wrote: On 24/10/2022 20:04, John Dale (DB2DOM) wrote: Mark and Chris - do you guys have a favorite flavor of Linux that has yielded good results? I use Ubuntu for my various test environments and the servers I run at home. Stuff I know well (Tomcat, Java, etc) I

RE: Compatibility, 32 bit ..

2022-10-25 Thread Harri Pesonen
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Re: Compatibility, 32 bit ..

2022-10-24 Thread Mark Thomas
On 24/10/2022 20:04, John Dale (DB2DOM) wrote: Mark and Chris - do you guys have a favorite flavor of Linux that has yielded good results? I use Ubuntu for my various test environments and the servers I run at home. Stuff I know well (Tomcat, Java, etc) I tend to install manually rather than

RE: Compatibility, 32 bit ..

2022-10-24 Thread Neil Aggarwal
: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Compatibility, 32 bit .. Mark and Chris - do you guys have a favorite flavor of Linux that has yielded good results? Anyone else? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For

Re: Compatibility, 32 bit ..

2022-10-24 Thread John Dale (DB2DOM)
Mark and Chris - do you guys have a favorite flavor of Linux that has yielded good results? Anyone else? John On 10/24/22, Mark Thomas wrote: > On 24/10/2022 19:38, John Dale (DB2DOM) wrote: >> Would Tomcat 10 work with Java 8? > > No. Tomcat 10.1.x requires a minimum of Java 11. > > Details o

Re: Compatibility, 32 bit ..

2022-10-24 Thread John Dale (DB2DOM)
Thank you. Would you agree with me that this should be an ubuntu bug report? I installed using apt-get. John On 10/24/22, Mark Thomas wrote: > On 24/10/2022 19:38, John Dale (DB2DOM) wrote: >> Would Tomcat 10 work with Java 8? > > No. Tomcat 10.1.x requires a minimum of Java 11. > > Details o

Re: Compatibility, 32 bit ..

2022-10-24 Thread Mark Thomas
On 24/10/2022 19:38, John Dale (DB2DOM) wrote: Would Tomcat 10 work with Java 8? No. Tomcat 10.1.x requires a minimum of Java 11. Details of Tomcat versions, minimum Java versions and other useful information: https://tomcat.apache.org/whichversion.html Mark Thinking I might downgrade

Re: Compatibility, 32 bit ..

2022-10-24 Thread John Dale (DB2DOM)
Would Tomcat 10 work with Java 8? Thinking I might downgrade the JDK. On 10/24/22, Mark Thomas wrote: > > > On 24/10/2022 17:00, John Dale (DB2DOM) wrote: >> Hi Mark; >> >> Thanks for taking a look. >> >> Below is more information. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> John Dale, MS MIS >> Spearfish, SD USA >

Re: Compatibility, 32 bit ..

2022-10-24 Thread Mark Thomas
On 24/10/2022 17:00, John Dale (DB2DOM) wrote: Hi Mark; Thanks for taking a look. Below is more information. Sincerely, John Dale, MS MIS Spearfish, SD USA - Tomcat version: 10.0.27 (unzipped, chmod 770 on catalina.sh before cli: catalina.sh run) java version: openjdk version "9-inte

Re: Compatibility, 32 bit ..

2022-10-24 Thread John Dale (DB2DOM)
Hi Mark; Thanks for taking a look. Below is more information. Sincerely, John Dale, MS MIS Spearfish, SD USA - Tomcat version: 10.0.27 (unzipped, chmod 770 on catalina.sh before cli: catalina.sh run) java version: openjdk version "9-internal" uname -m: i686 Ubuntu 18.0.4 First error in l

Re: Compatibility, 32 bit ..

2022-10-24 Thread Mark Thomas
On 24/10/2022 02:01, John Dale (DB2DOM) wrote: Hi Everyone; I've had a few requests to refurbish some old 32 bit dell towers. So, I'm throwing ubuntu on them and bringing up a MySQL->DB2DOM->Tomcat stack. Unfortunately, Tomcat doesn't want to start with openjdk 9 that is packaged with 32 bit u

Compatibility, 32 bit ..

2022-10-23 Thread John Dale (DB2DOM)
Hi Everyone; I've had a few requests to refurbish some old 32 bit dell towers. So, I'm throwing ubuntu on them and bringing up a MySQL->DB2DOM->Tomcat stack. Unfortunately, Tomcat doesn't want to start with openjdk 9 that is packaged with 32 bit ubuntu. Can someone give me a pointer to what wor