RE: Setting SSL for login pages

2011-06-21 Thread André Brunnsberg
cookie files under normal HTTP with the Firesheep extension for Firefox. Cheers, André -Original Message- From: Rafael Liu [mailto:rafael...@gmail.com] Sent: den 21 juni 2011 03:12 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Setting SSL for login pages Good point Chuck. I agree with you, the webapp

Re: Setting SSL for login pages

2011-06-21 Thread Rafael Liu
03:12 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Setting SSL for login pages Good point Chuck. I agree with you, the webapp wouldn't be all secured. But there are 2 different things here: * the issue with the plain password * the issue with session hijacking The first one first gives the hacker

Re: Setting SSL for login pages

2011-06-21 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rafael, On 6/20/2011 8:12 PM, Rafael Liu wrote: Good point Chuck. I agree with you, the webapp wouldn't be all secured. But there are 2 different things here: * the issue with the plain password * the issue with session hijacking This does

Re: Setting SSL for login pages

2011-06-21 Thread Rafael Liu
Hey Chris, as you said, each problem compromise different kinds of things: account vs credentials. And I think they have different kind of consequences and can be, each one , dangerous its own way. I brought the discussion into the list because I thought it was relevant. Looking at the code, a

Re: Setting SSL for login pages

2011-06-21 Thread Mark Thomas
On 21/06/2011 17:05, Rafael Liu wrote: Hey Chris, as you said, each problem compromise different kinds of things: account vs credentials. And I think they have different kind of consequences and can be, each one , dangerous its own way. I brought the discussion into the list because I

Re: Setting SSL for login pages

2011-06-21 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rafael, On 6/21/2011 12:05 PM, Rafael Liu wrote: I agree it's kind of a philosophical question but I see some real implications. Anyway, for the record, as a quick and dirty fix I set the full URL with https schema in /form@action. But the hosting

Re: Setting SSL for login pages

2011-06-21 Thread Rafael Liu
Well, if it's the spec I guess there's no much to argue. Maybe turn it into an option, but I already got the feeling of the community. I won't insist as this is my specific requirement and may not be of use to a wide range of the community. Mark, there could be a MIM attack but that's yet another

RE: Setting SSL for login pages

2011-06-20 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
From: Rafael Liu [mailto:rafael...@gmail.com] Subject: Setting SSL for login pages I think it would be natural something like this: security-constraint web-resource-collection web-resource-nameSSL login/web-resource-name url-pattern/login/*/url-pattern

RE: Setting SSL for login pages

2011-06-20 Thread Rafael Liu
Good point Chuck. I agree with you, the webapp wouldn't be all secured. But there are 2 different things here: * the issue with the plain password * the issue with session hijacking The first one first gives the hacker a private information about the user (which can even the used by the user