To all,
Here are a few other examples of innumeracy, these were being committed by
writers of arthmetic books for primary schools.
The first years after D-Day in 1971 In Britain sometimes amounts of money
were expressed like this: 1.67-1/2 pounds.
This is an enormity which we had in Holland dur
No, John, I spent no time at all looking for the article.
I subscribe to PC Magazine, the latest issue of which contains the article.
It was a matter of a couple of minutes to find it on their web site.
I would appreciate it if you wouldn't ascribe to me views I do not have.
Yes, of course, I c
2001-04-24
This is off-topic, but directed to anyone who might know.
In January, when the Euro currency takes over, I'm sure it will affect
postage stamps too. If I had three 20 c? stamps, one from Germany, one from
France and one from Greece, would I be able to place them on a letter I
intend
2001-04-24
I will admit to being arrogant on some things, but never in a sense of
national superiority. But, I'm sure most Americans have a definite
arrogance when it comes what this country is. So, I am speaking on behalf
of the majority.
Plus, the statement was meant as an insult to those wh
2001-04-24
Jeez Bill, I hope you didn't spend all day looking for this article. I
can't imagine the time and resources you must have used to get this
information to us. I'm sure your effort is appreciated by all.
I can't believe this situation has bothered you this much. I can imagine
what yo
Dennis Brownridge wrote:
> I would say, more like [having to learn measurement] a dozen times, since at
> least 400 different units are
> used in the U.S., while SI has only 30.
I think that it's worse. I saw some kind of lesson plan (I'm not a teacher) for
gardening that involved designing a ga
What I have been trying to pick up on is whether the original order was
written as "0.5" or as ".5". The NBC evening news did not get that
specific; the narrator said "point five" but the graphic showed "0.5".
This is extremely important to the issue, of course.
My lab students these days all
Dennis, I accept your amendment to my motion enthusiastically!
Jim
On Tuesday 24 April 2001 1952, Dennis Brownridge wrote:
> Jim wrote:
>
> "And our students are loaded down with having to learn
> measurements twice!"
>
> I would say, more like a dozen times, since at least 400 different
> units
Anyone has any idea what is the origin of this system?
I searched a lot, also the ISO and DIN standards, even at EB.com and still found
nothing that clarifies who invented this system and if it is standardized anywhere.
If they are standardized they may as well be under a generic name not TORX
>From time to time in the last few months, we have received warnings on this
list about alleged viruses that turn our to be hoaxes.
The latest perpetrator of this said to me, in a private email, "Better safe
than sorry."
My view is that we should be safe BEFORE we spread other people's false
rum
John Schweisthal quoted Justin Wastnage as saying:
> In Montréal, the street addresses are resolutely metric. Building numbers
> count up from the Saint Lawrence river (so when I lived at 3861 Rue
> University, my front door was 3,861 metres from the river, or nearly 4km).
>
> For east-west stre
In a message dated 2001-04-24 17:39:47 Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
TV meteorologist Bob Ryan is giving pollen count in parts per cubic meter on
NBC-4 in Washington, DC. NBC-4 is NBC network station in the US Capital.
Bob also is Past President of the American Meteorologi
In a message dated 2001-04-24 19:08:45 Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Pepsi has recently started using a 710 ml bottle! I hope that doesn't catch
on! Why not 700 ml or 750 ml I don't know.
710 mL is 24 oz, a size Pepsi makes in the USA.
cm
Jim wrote:
"And our students are loaded down with having to learn
measurements twice!"
I would say, more like a dozen times, since at least 400 different units are
used in the U.S., while SI has only 30. This is a very important point that
we should continually hammer home. The choice is not bet
Louis is right. There are a good many Americans, like that Star editor, who
have an exaggerated idea of U.S. superiority in all things and think we're
God's gift to the world. But there are also many Americans, like me, who are
embarrassed by U.S. arrogance and our international image.
In history
Speak for yourself on that, John.
Jim
On Tuesday 24 April 2001 1846, kilopascal wrote:
> 2001-04-24
>
> In other words, we're arrogant and proud of it.
>
>
> John
>
> Keiner ist hoffnungsloser versklavt als derjenige, der irrtümlich
> glaubt frei zu sein.
>
> There are none more hopelessly ensla
I recently saw at Safeway a new "butcher-style" meat selction. Here in Saskatoon there
are two small butcher chains and they sell only by the pound, including pound-only
scales.
Safeway has mimiced this by pricing their "butcher" meat selection by the pound, but
the electronic scale is still ki
2001-04-24
In other words, we're arrogant and proud of it.
John
Keiner ist hoffnungsloser versklavt als derjenige, der irrtümlich glaubt
frei zu sein.
There are none more hopelessly enslaved then those who falsely believe they
are free!
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe (1749-1832)
- Original
2001-04-24
Maybe, just maybe the 40 % of the companies that are metric carry the
economic load of the other 60 % that aren't. Plus all of our technological
developments happened in laboratories where metric is used. It seems the
metric system is behind every success story, directly or indirectl
2001-04-24
Oxford is a British Dictionary. The Oxford dictionary is the standard
dictionary used in Canada. Webster is an American dictionary. I don't
doubt that the slug would appear in an American publication.
John
Keiner ist hoffnungsloser versklavt als derjenige, der irrtümlich glaubt
fr
Our local Lowe's and Home Depot sell metric screws. What is special
about these apart from the alleged German/Swiss connection and the
unusual cross-slot on the countersunk screws?
Jim
On Tuesday 24 April 2001 1754, Adrian Jadic wrote:
> Their web-site is
>
> www.grk-canada.com
>
> Unfortunate
- Original Message -
From: "Justin WASTNAGE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, 2001-04-24 06:45
Subject: Re: [ukma] Canada Metric
In Montréal, the street addresses are resolutely metric. Building numbers
count up from the Saint Lawrence river (so when I lived at
- Original Message -
From: "David Rayner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "kilopascal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, 2001-04-24 04:20
Subject: Re: Fw: [USMA:12409] Fw: [ukma] Fw: Re: Letter in Telegraph
One of the Siemens was first president of the IEE in the great days of
British Engineeri
Their web-site is
www.grk-canada.com
Unfortunately their web-site is mainly ifp.
I called them and they could not give me a straight answer. Probably they thought if I
call from US I must be wanting to hear ifp.
When I asked for metric I might have puzzled them totally.
Anyway I asked if th
- Original Message -
From: "Justin WASTNAGE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, 2001-04-24 06:30
Subject: [ukma] Re: [USMA:12395] Ecuador and Peru
Correct in statutue, but in practice both countries, along with Colombia use
the US Gallon (galón) to measure petrol
- Original Message -
From: "Roderick Urquhart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, 2001-04-24 05:59
Subject: [ukma] Quality of Webpolls
> Recently I have begun to wonder whether people who fill out webpolls
really
> read the questions.
>
> I was astonished that in
Anyone has any idea what is the origin of this system?
I searched a lot, also the ISO and DIN standards, even at EB.com and still found
nothing that clarifies who invented this system and if it is standardized anywhere.
If they are standardized they may as well be under a generic name not TORX
I've seen the pollen counts done in those units for several years (when
they don't use a doofus "pollen index" scale). I think those are rather
standard units.
Please let us know if he does start giving pressures in kilopascals.
Even if he gave it in hectopascals (more likely due to NWS practi
TV meteorologist Bob Ryan is giving pollen
count in parts per cubic meter on NBC-4 in Washington, DC. NBC-4
is NBC network station in the US Capital. Bob also is Past President of the American Meteorological
Society.
I sent a letter to the American Meteorological
Society requesting that
Actually I think a pound can be mass or weight. If you need to be specific
you should say "pound mass" (lbm = 0.454 kg) or "pound force" (lbf = 4.45
N). Now don't confuse pound force with a poundal (=0.138 N). Pound is also
a unit of money in Cyprus, Egypt, Ireland, Lebanon, Sudan, Syria, and U
At 15:53 -0400 01/04/24, Nat Hager III wrote:
> THE KANSAS CITY STAR
>True, it's not how most of the world does it. But we're different
>from most of the world in many areas - law, governance, manufacture,
>human rights and conservation, to name a few. And are very much the
>better for it.
I am
The most important thing I detect in the article, from a political-action
standpoint, is its defensivness. Instead of ridiculing metric as something
that flopped 20 years ago, they seem to be lamenting the fact that it won't
go away.
That's an important shift in public perception we need to get
This mantra is voiced repeatedly by those opposed to metrication. The
logical error in it is that it has an erroneous implied premise. The
success mentioned might be blamed on or credited to (choose your point
of view):
- our form of government,
- our history of transcontinental expansion that
The origin of the slug of mass (lbf·s²/ft = 14.594 kg), also known as the
"gee-pound," and seemingly much loved by wombatiferious aerospace folks,
has an obscure origin. It belongs to the so-called "British Gravitational
system," but is not mentioned in the unabridged Oxford English Dictionary.
H
Webster's has it online:
http://www.webster.com/home.htm
Baron Carter
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 24 April, 2001 14:26
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:12423] Re: NASA and weight vs. mass
Karl G. Ruling wrote in USMA 1
PS Here's the link to the KC Star article:
http://www.kcstar.com/item/pages/local.pat,local/3acc9ca9.421,.html
Nat
font size=2C.W. GUSEWELLE-fontbrAmerica can make do without move to metric system.url
Actually this is rather encouraging. They sound worried!
Nat
2001 The Kansas City Star Co.
THE KANSAS CITY STAR
April 22, 2001, Sunday METROPOLITAN EDITION
SECTION: METRO; Pg. B1 ;C.W. GUSEWELLE
LENGTH: 591 words
HEADLINE: America can still make do without move to metric system
B
Karl G. Ruling wrote in USMA 12422:
>You're right, of course. I suspect that NASA used weight rather than mass
>when writing in FFU about the mechanical arm in space because the unit of
>mass in the foot-pound system is the slug.
Wrong. The pound is defined in legislation as the unit of mass.
Scott Clauss wrote:
>I've often thought the arguments for and against the terms "mass" and
>"weight" that I've seen bandied about in this forum were an petty exercise
>in semantics. However, if NASA is talking about an object in space, this is
>no longer the case. NASA and the blindly following
Louis Jourdan wrote in USMA 12394:
>At 9:26 -0400 01/04/23, Joseph B. Reid wrote:
>>The Battle of Quebec reached its climax on Saturday. Final score was: 6000
>>police involved of whom 19 were injured, 392 protesters were arrested.
>
>I suspect these protesters being against globalization are a
Editor, Post and Courier
Dear editor,
I read an article by Bob Lang and Johathan Maze in today's paper
regarding the price of gasoline. They told us that prices for a gallon
of gas rose from $1.42.9 on Monday morning to $1.47.9 in the afternoon.
Never before have I seen a number with two deci
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