In Panama, which is a metric country (speed limits in km/h, distances in km,
most products in metric values), petrol/gasoline is sold in "gallones". I
assume these to be US gallons (3.78 L), and are probably a holdover from the US
presence in Panama.
John F-L
- Original Message -
I see why they call it the XL restaurant - the hamburgers and cheeseburgers
are 30 cm in diameter!
And everyone says that obesity is just a US/UK problem?
John F-L
- Original Message -
From: Jeremiah MacGregor
To: U.S. Metric Association
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 12:2
The Nano is predicted to become the next peoples car, not only in India from
where it originates but in much of the less developed world. Euro-legal
versions, with an upgraded spec, are predicted to go on sale in 2010 or 2011.
In India the basic version is to be sold for around £1500/US$2500,
Jerry,
If you read the last paragraph of my posting, you will be able to find
everything out for yourself.
Regards
Martin
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From: Jeremiah MacGregor [mailto:jeremiahmacgre...@rocketmail.com]
Sent: 03 April 2009 23:02
To: vliets...@btinternet.com; U.S. Metric Association
Su
No, she doesn't want a third measurement system. She wants the "cup"
measurements on the other side (relative to handle).
I would just measure 120 mL, moreorless, but it is a cautionary tale that many
dual markings are tolerated, not used.
http://www.t-g.com/blogs/bettybrown/entry/26458/
"Am
On 2009/04/04, at 10:48 PM, John M. Steele wrote:
No, she doesn't want a third measurement system. She wants the
"cup" measurements on the other side (relative to handle).
I would just measure 120 mL, moreorless, but it is a cautionary tale
that many dual markings are tolerated, not used.
Brian,
My point is that the records never were the dimensions stated in inches. Go
measure them, just don't look at them. The 7 and 10 inch records were
originally designed with metric dimensions in mind as 175 and 250 mm and those
dimensions continued on even when the name was changed.
Th
Pat,
You understandably write from a Commonwealth or Australian perspective (I don't
mean spelling), and as a metric consultant, you may have a vested interest in
making old measurements sound more confusing than they are. I am confused by
spoons and cups in recipes from Commonwealth nations.
Two quick comments:
- My suggestion re: opposing FMI was mostly focused on organizing existing
interest groups to pressure FMI itself, not just Congress directly, so that
component would not be lobbying. Food retailers are businesses, and if they
see the Boy Scouts or Hispanic groups telling
Since the US cups with metric on one side is up to 250 mL, then why not just
use 250 mL to define a cup? It would be easier to use then to try to fill to
the 240 mL line.
Jerry
From: John M. Steele
To: U.S. Metric Association
Sent: Saturday, April 4, 200
Thanks for the correction, Pat.
That was my typographical error.
The word is "any" not "and" in "...commerce any packaged..."
Gene.
Original message
>Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 09:35:40 +1100
>From: Pat Naughtin
>Subject: Re: [USMA:44292] FPLA 2010
>To: mech...@illinois.edu
>
> On 20
John,
My father was Dutch and my mother British. One of their wedding presents
was a Dutch cookery book - measurements in metric units of course. The
statement "100 g zuiker" can easily be translated to "100 g sugar" and is
totally unambiguous. All that is needed is a tourist's phrase book t
First, my draft needs corrections (such as "any" rather than "and" as corrected
by Pat) and polish of structure and wording.
Then I intend to recommend the polished draft to the Laws and Metric Group at
NIST, in particular to Ken Butcher; and to many other elected and appointed
Congressmen and
This is interesting as it shows that John's comfort in how American measures
are defined is of little comfort to those who don't know what the terms meant
when the recipe was written down. If the recipe originated in a place or time
where the cups and spoons did not mean the same as the America
Excellent! Good Luck!
Jerry
From: "mech...@illinois.edu"
To: U.S. Metric Association
Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2009 12:45:59 PM
Subject: [USMA:44334] Re: FPLA 2010
First, my draft needs corrections (such as "any" rather than "and" as corrected
by Pat) and
Thanks Jerry!
Gene.
Original message
>Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 09:58:55 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Jeremiah MacGregor
>Subject: [USMA:44336] Re: FPLA 2010
>To: "U.S. Metric Association"
>
> Excellent! Good Luck!
>
> Jerry
>
>
>
>
You're welcome.
Would it do any good if you could send a copy to Obama directly and ask him to
sign it into law?
Jerry
From: "mech...@illinois.edu"
To: U.S. Metric Association
Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2009 1:05:43 PM
Subject: [USMA:44337] Re: FPLA 2010
T
When Canada went metric in the 1970s, there was a lot of discussion on whether
Canadian recipes should retain volumetric measures (although I believe these
were based on Imperial, not U.S. values, for cups, etc), or to convert to
weight-based recipes, as is the custom elsewhere in the world. Th
Because the ratio of that ingredient to other ingredients measured accurately
won't be right. The set of 240:30:15:5 is not exactly right, but they are in
the right proportions. The recipe is just scaled about 1.4% larger.
You are free to weigh everything. I am not advocating one style of co
Yes, it does say something about isolationism.
However, recipes represent history, the past. Quite apart from the argument of
whether we should continue to use the old terms, we should document them, so we
don't lose track of the past.
A "stick" of butter is 0.25 lb, therefore about 113.4 g.
If you don't know where the recipe originated (and therefore what cup or spoon
was meant), then of course you have a problem. The terms have different
meanings different places.
In Pat's referenced note, he knew the recipe was American. He may not have
known the precise meaning of the term,
Not sure if you are not confusing a file name for the table title. Should you
be looking for HHV, typically, it is 10 % more for hydrocarbons.
Concerning the ethanol numbers, ball park figures, that table was written at
the time Dr. Wang was probably still in higschool. His paper and the plethor
For the first 38 years of my life I lived in San Francisco. To get home I took
the streetcar out Market St then into the tunnel; or I drove out Market St.
then over the hill.
About three blocks northeast of Castro and Market Sts., the end of the straight
(line of the street, not the neighbo
I wonder if the push in favor for volumetric cooking may come from the chefs
and culinary experts. Real chefs and culinary experts use mass and not volume
when preparing meals. If using mass becomes a trade secret as to why food in
fancy restaurants tastes better then that made at home, then t
I don't think the average volumetric recipe user is that precise when preparing
meals, especially when filling cups. Volumetric cooking may be more popular
among the masses because it takes less effort then mass cooking and is less
precise. Thus there is no need to get hung up on precise conve
I don't see a need to preserve recipes in English form once they have been
converted to metric. The fact that the recipe is preserved in some form then
the history is not lost. Anyway which version of pre-metric measures do you
want to preserve?
When you say a stick of butter is 0.25 lb, what
As with most entendres, there is always the exaggeration. This would prove to
be true with his records as they were never 12 inches (=305 mm) but only 302 mm
in the US. He exaggerated his size by 3 mm.
Maybe not much, but when there are those who like to attach precision to
English units, h
The question was what is a stick of butter in a American recipe. Apparently
they don't use sticks of butter elsewhere, but it is 1/4 of a 1 lb package in
American stores and American recipes, end of discussion.
As to how I am sure it is a "real" pound, by US law it is not only marked as
such,
I would describe that as a "common spoon," that is a part of a flatware set.
It is not a calibrated spoon with bowl intended for level measure, nor
imprinted with its capacity.
It may average around 10 mL but is likely to be different sizes in different
flatware patterns (a problem with all c
I assume you also believe that the police are 'extremist' then when they asked
for my height for a form which used ft and in on an NPLA (number plate issue)
stop?
Just a thought - would an 'extremist' paint out the PSI on their own tyre
pressure scale? Just a thought ;-)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009
Jerry (JPS),
'Ken' (Lee) says a lot of things. I recommend you dont refer to him totally as
a reference point (as I have pointed out a few times). You're probably best
reading my posts. By the way - feel free to email me off the list with other
questions (including 'tee' drinks) - as I said
That's odd.
You have switched to spelling litres in the French/UK way (rather than the
German/US way).
[AHEM!!!]
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:59:17 -0700
From: jeremiahmacgre...@rocketmail.com
Subject: [USMA:44307] RE: Tea
To: usma@colostate.edu
Thanks Ken. I meant to say metric units, implying
Sounds great. Please consider the following slight alterations intended to
unify the language and presentation of units.
(3) (A) (i) ...shall be expressed in g or its multiples;
Consistently with (3) (A) (i), the (ii) and (iii) and (iv) should say:
(ii) ...of linear measure, shal
If I lived in Loudwater or Ann Arbor Drive it wouldn't make much difference to
a fantasy about metric.
However - I suspect that Carleton has a much more realistic view of what it's
like already over here (as he has already visited this fine country).
Hence I can take Carleton's post seriously an
If you are referring to the picture, then yes it is a common spoon. But I also
provided the text and highlighted it in a different color to point out that the
capacity of the dessert spoon is 10 mL. I don't think there is a calibrated
dessert spoon, at least not in the US.
Here is another s
I know someone who works in the production of vinyl records.
Besides the fact that 12" (10" and 7") were around since the UK/US even knew of
metric they are still imperial based today.What you (JPS) don't realise
(although in reality you prob do) is the shrinkage after the first 14" inches
are
Our police don't ask for heights. They can read it on our drivers license or
see it on their computer. Why would they need to ask yours? Or did you just
imagine they did?
Jerry
From: Stephen Humphreys
To: U.S. Metric Association
Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2
Ken obviously has a better knowledge (for whatever reason) then you do on the
subject. He is able to back up his facts with references. All you do is make
statements without a single gram of proof.
I know how soft drinks are served in pubs. In a glass.
In order for you to answer question
Yes, since we were discussing the UK, liquids are sold in litres, such as your
petrol. In the US, we buy some liquids in liters. Litres are for the UK and
Commonwealth and liters are for the US.
Now do you agree that tea is sold in the UK in metric, or are you going to find
some other insigni
But you don't live on Ann Arbor Drive. Your address is :
Stephen Paul Humphreys
81 The Rise
Loudwater Buckinghamshire
HP13 7BD
How is it you can debate properly with Carleton but with no one else? Calling
people by other names, or commenting on spelling or other syntax errors is not
a proper
Oh yes, the old shrinkage factor. Obviously if the record size was intended to
be 12 inches, it would start out larger and then end up 12 inches after
shrinkage, yet no matter how many records are produced they all end up 302 mm
in the US and 300 mm elsewhere.
I still don't understand how my
I don't know about other sizes, but the "Long Play" records or "LP" was designed by an American record company. Columbia I thinkout of LA. Early 50s if I remember right...so I wouldn't be surprised if it was designed to 12 inches.Butdoes any of this *REALLY* matter? The 3.5 inch flopp
http://www.oddcast.com/home/demos/tts/tts_example.php?sitepal
This is an interesting web site. I used it to type in metric words and
selected various male and female voices from different English speaking
countries to see how they were pronounced.
Try units like coulomb and bequerel..
Jer
Brian why not just measure one for yourself? Then you will see that it is not
12 inches (=305 mm). If you have any from outside the US measure them too.
You will see that neither are 305 mm. Just because they were designed in the
US doesn't mean they weren't designed by someone who was pro-m
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