[USMA:44731] Re: Is this a joke or is it supposed to be serious?

2009-04-18 Thread John Frewen-Lord
I agree that what this columnist said is utterly stupid. Howver, I think we can be encouraged by the responses - not one totally agreed with him, and even those who sort of sympathised qualified their comments by saying that the US is really out of touch and must change if it wants to be a

[USMA:44734] Re: Is this a joke or is it supposed to be serious?

2009-04-18 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
Han, Yes, one would wonder why a pro-metric website would give advertisement space to an article that is anti-metric.  But then if you read down to the comments you will see why.  These two comments I found the most interesting.  The first one makes a connection between who sets the rules

[USMA:44733] Re: Cooking using Cups

2009-04-18 Thread John M. Steele
Yes and no.  I am apparently in the minority, but let me try once more to clarify the point I am making.   First, if converting an actual measurement, it must ALWAYS be rounded sensibly at the end. There is no point in decimal dust in the final answer.   Secondly, any rounding of the conversion

[USMA:44736] Re: IEEE/ASTM SI-10

2009-04-18 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
I'm curious as to what is needed to be revised or updated.  Unless there is a new unit or prefix added to the list of units or the definition of a unit changes then there should be no need to revise or update the SI standard.  So what revisions are being made? Jerry

[USMA:44737] Re: IEEE/ASTM SI-10

2009-04-18 Thread John M. Steele
I'm not on the committee.  As a minimum, some changes that need to be reflected: *The katal is approved as a new derived unit. *The dalton is accepted as equivalent to the unified atomic mass unit *The SI Brochure has taken a softer stance on certain non-SI units. *NIST has continued the

[USMA:44738] Re: IEEE/ASTM SI-10

2009-04-18 Thread James R. Frysinger
The SI Brochure, NIST SP 330, NIST SP 811 and other documents are among those that the joint committee refers to in maintaining SI 10. We are sensitive to changes in those documents. For example, the katal and the dalton will certainly be part of this revision. One large change in the SI

[USMA:44739] RE: Nothing but Imperial

2009-04-18 Thread Ziser, Jesse
Wait, you believe that the Democrats oppose metrication whereas the Republicans support it? May I ask what has led you to feel this way? The most obvious connection between partisanship and metrication to my eyes is what happened in the 70s. Jimmy Carter's metric conversion program

[USMA:44740] Re: Is this a joke or is it supposed to be serious?

2009-04-18 Thread Stephen Humphreys
You don't mention the dollar.how's that going these days? ;-) Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 06:35:02 -0700 From: jeremiahmacgre...@rocketmail.com Subject: [USMA:44734] Re: Is this a joke or is it supposed to be serious? To: usma@colostate.edu Han, Yes, one would wonder why a pro-metric website

[USMA:44741] Re: Metric horse boots

2009-04-18 Thread Carleton MacDonald
Hooves on their feet, that is. cm From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf Of Jeremiah MacGregor Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 23:40 To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:44726] Re: Metric horse boots Horses don't have feet, they have hooves.

[USMA:44742] Re: overuse of USMA Listserver

2009-04-18 Thread Ziser, Jesse
The USMA doesn't need to do anything. These old members are the people making all of this possible. I agree that the listserv is getting overstuffed with messages. I hardly read any these days (as evidenced by the latency of this reply). I do, however, keep seeing the same from address

[USMA:44743] RE: Hooves vs feet

2009-04-18 Thread Carleton MacDonald
I too am getting a bit tired of the weekend sniping. I'll be going to the UK at the end of this month for two weeks, and will likely unsubscribe in order to keep e-mails from piling up on my BlackBerry which will get really expensive if there are a lot (also because I want to visit people, go

[USMA:44744] RE: Nothing but Imperial

2009-04-18 Thread Brij Bhushan Vij
Stan, Steeve, sirs: .May I ask what has led you to feel this way? With growing demand to meet 'aero-industrial and commerce growth' in United States, the economic imbalance has already started affecting exchequor and impact is being felt on the tax-payer. YOU may argue that economy is in

[USMA:44745] RE: Hooves vs feet

2009-04-18 Thread ezra . steinberg
Have a great trip, Carleton. And please do send us a trip report when you can after you get back! :-) -- Ezra - Original Message - From: Carleton MacDonald carlet...@comcast.net To: U.S. Metric Association usma@colostate.edu Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 1:46:52 PM GMT -08:00

[USMA:44746] Re: Is this a joke or is it supposed to be serious?

2009-04-18 Thread Pat Naughtin
On 2009/04/18, at 9:18 PM, Han Maenen wrote: I was on the USMA site on the page 'Published articles about metric - 2009' and found this: Metric is no way to measure By Glynn Moore| Columnist Augusta (Georgia) Chronicle, 2009-Mar-16, 1p., Moore,G.; Metric is no way to measure.

[USMA:44747] RE: Hooves vs feet

2009-04-18 Thread Stephen Humphreys
That's actually possibly a good idea - is the 'unsubscribe-resubscribe' method quicker than ordering on 'Sender' and doing a mass delete? In hotmail you can order on any column - so you can order on 'From' select the page with - for random example - 'J' and simply cross the boxes and hit the

[USMA:44748] RE: Hooves vs feet

2009-04-18 Thread Carleton MacDonald
The USMA list doesn't work like (for example) yahoogroups, where you can go on no-mail status but you are still part of the group, can send messages, but have to read messages on the web site. It's a listserv so you have to unsubscribe completely when you go on vacation. Fortunately it does not

[USMA:44749] RE: Hooves vs feet

2009-04-18 Thread Bill Potts
Stephen: I think most email applications, whether Web-based (e.g., Hotmail, Yahoo Mail, Gmail, etc.) or client-based (e.g., MS Outlook, Eudora, Thunderbird, etc.), have that same capability. It doesn't hurt to clarify it, though. I use the same technique to purge many of my MS Outlook

[USMA:44750] RE: Hooves vs feet

2009-04-18 Thread Bill Potts
Have a good trip, Carleton, and try to keep the dings and dongs separate. Bill _ Bill Potts W http://wfpconsulting.com/ FP Consulting Roseville, CA http://metric1.org/ http://metric1.org [SI Navigator] _ From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On

[USMA:44751] online food seller

2009-04-18 Thread Pierre Abbat
I wrote to an online food seller asking them to include package sizes in kilograms on the website. I got the following reply: We have no interest in confusing folks with a mix of metric and English pounds. Should the FPLA be amended to apply to online food sellers? Or does a different law

[USMA:44752] Re: Is this a joke or is it supposed to be serious?

2009-04-18 Thread STANLEY DOORE
Columnist Glynn Moore shows the mentality of news writers. She lacks complete understanding of the world she lives in. However, through her access to writing in a newspaper, she is able to influence the uneducated public. US pre-college students rank 13th out of 15 OCED countries,

[USMA:44753] RE: Nothing but Imperial

2009-04-18 Thread STANLEY DOORE
The main problem stems from the fact that pre-college people in the US rank 13th out of 15 OCED countries in the world. This hurts US productivity and one reason why things are manufactured outside the US. The World Is Flat as Tom Friedman writes, and the US hasn't recognized it,

[USMA:44754] RE: Hooves vs feet

2009-04-18 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
Don't forget to visit Tesco (the imperial store) and report back just how imperial is isn't. Jerry From: Carleton MacDonald carlet...@comcast.net To: U.S. Metric Association usma@colostate.edu Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 4:46:52 PM Subject: [USMA:44743] RE:

[USMA:44755] Re: Is this a joke or is it supposed to be serious?

2009-04-18 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
Pat, From the tone of his article, I don't think he will be too amused. He might have a heart attack when he realizes how much metric there is in his life that he never knew existed. Jerry From: Pat Naughtin pat.naugh...@metricationmatters.com To: U.S.

[USMA:44757] Re: online food seller

2009-04-18 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
In as much as it seems like you are making a noble gesture for metrication, just blindly writing to a company can be the wrong thing to do.  You never know who will be answering your request.  The person answering your request may be very strongly anti-metric and either ignore you or provide