[USMA:45873] Re: Posters

2009-09-21 Thread STANLEY DOORE
Hi Pat: My inclination is to make a very simple poster which tells/shows various products and hints how to use/find metric products in grocery stores. The purpose is to make the most people aware of what's available and what's coming without being an overly complex distraction. Groc

[USMA:45872] FW: Arrow Morning Meeting Minutes, September 21, 2009

2009-09-21 Thread Carleton MacDonald
The company I work for puts out a daily message about the state of the reservation system. Item 6 is often a bit of interesting information, not necessarily related to the reservation system. Here’s what the author (not me, I’m not a techie) wrote today. Impressive, considering that there are

[USMA:45870] Re: Posters

2009-09-21 Thread STANLEY DOORE
The KISS principle should be the basis of converting to/using metric. A simple poster showing the most used units, such as mass (kg) and volume (L), are most used in grocery stores. Place posters in grocery stores first. It would get to the most people very quickly. However it

[USMA:45869] Re: Electrical transmission and distribution

2009-09-21 Thread James R. Frysinger
Howard, John Frewen-Lord, and John Steele, I must have spent my life in an impoverished part of the U.S. Never have I had an option as to which company should provide my electrical energy. Currently I live in an area served by an electric cooperative, Caney Fork. At one time they owned their

[USMA:45868] Re: Electrical transmission and distribution

2009-09-21 Thread John Frewen-Lord
Jim: In broad terms, the way it works here in the UK is that the central government (equivalent to the federal government in the US, Canada and Australia) owns the power stations, which then contract with National Grid plc, who own the main overhead wires (either at 230 kV or 400 kV as they a

[USMA:45867] Re: Electrical transmission and distribution

2009-09-21 Thread Howard Ressel
Jim, at least in NY, we have a choice of providers. We have to choose one (or default to our existing provider) at the end of each year. The utility companies own the wires but you contract with them or a different company to provide the electricity (we have a same deal with the gas). There are sev

[USMA:45866] Re: Electrical transmission and distribution

2009-09-21 Thread John M. Steele
Jim, Many areas in the US have alternate providers (or the pretense of it).  We have it for both electric and natural gas.   The original company provides the distribution service, and levies a charge for it.  However, other companies set rates for electricity or gas and charge consumers for the

[USMA:45865] Electrical transmission and distribution

2009-09-21 Thread James R. Frysinger
First of all, I'm changing the subject line. Second, John has said something here that intrigues me. How do you go about changing your provider of electrical energy, John? Do you have to connect your house to a different set of distribution wires? Or, if you keep the connection the same, who

[USMA:45864] Re: Can journalists be cured of their affliction?

2009-09-21 Thread John Frewen-Lord
In the UK (and Oz will use broadly similar terminology), electricity comes from things we call 'power stations'. My electricity is supplied by Scottish Power (and no, I don't live in Scotland, they are just the provider - I can choose between any number of providers).Having said that, most

[USMA:45863] Re: Solar panels (maybe off topic a tad....)

2009-09-21 Thread Stan Jakuba
Even at the correct and higher 14.4 kWh/day it will not make an appreciable difference to the world, most of which is outside the southwest deserts anyway. On the scale of the energy cost to make, install and maintain the panels, this would be fad for the rich if the rest of the U.S. tax- and ra

[USMA:45862] Re: Can journalists be cured of their affliction?

2009-09-21 Thread Stan Jakuba
Pat: The terminology between the US and AU may be getting us into trouble. In the U.S., nobody calls electricity generating facilities anything but POWER PLANTS. What do they call them Down Under? I hate the term "power plant" but my "electricity generating facility" is awkward. Besides, power

[USMA:45861] Re: Posters for National Metric Week in the USA

2009-09-21 Thread John M. Steele
I am in total agreement with your main point:  it is too complex to use as a metric week poster, and merely leads to arguing over the right-hand side, not adoption of the left-hand side.   A metric week poster should cover Metric 101, not the entire SI.  The left-hand side has many units that th

[USMA:45860] Re: Solar panels (maybe off topic a tad....)

2009-09-21 Thread John M. Steele
600 W, 24/7 is 14.4 kWh/day.  You guys get hosed on electricity.  I pay $0.12/kWh in the top tier, slightly less less for the first few kilowatt hours per day. --- On Mon, 9/21/09, Harry Wyeth wrote: From: Harry Wyeth Subject: [USMA:45859] Solar panels (maybe off topic a tad) To: "U.S. M

[USMA:45859] Solar panels (maybe off topic a tad....)

2009-09-21 Thread Harry Wyeth
But 600 W (rounded off) of consumption, 24/7, is 8.64 kWh per day, or 259 weekly. At California rates of $0.24 per kWh (which many people pay at only the third of five tiers of rates) that is $62 per month. Or $745 per year. With tax credits and rebates, it doesn't take that long to amortize

[USMA:45858] Posters

2009-09-21 Thread Harry Wyeth
I am all for National Metric Week and posters, but the KISS (keep it simple stupid) approach works best with most audiences. If we could just get the population to deal with a FEW metric units, we would be 96% of the way "there". If we could just institute the use of liters (and mL) to measu