Most of Europe adopted a decimal currency during the nineteenth century.
Germany for example, adopted a decimal currency in 1871 when the German
Empire (the second Reich) was founded by Bismark.
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From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf
Thanks for that, Steve.another well informed argument. Probably safe to
say that few, if any, mechanics in the UK would use 'thou's'.
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From: Stephen Humphreys
To: U.S. Metric Association
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 10:21 PM
Subject: [USMA:47142] RE:
My impression had been that all air flight altitudes were given and
heeded in terms of feet. But this article implies flight altitudes in
meters.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/04/17/european-skies-largely-remain-fly-zone/
Jim
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James R. Frysinger
632 Stony Point Mountain Road
Doyle, TN
It is my understanding that European air space is controlled in feet.
The Wikipedia article on flight level shows a metric structure for Russia,
China, Mongolia, North Korea and various CIS States (non-European former USSR
satellites). Everybody else flies in feet (I think).
I heard on the BBC World Service last night about a location (which I missed)
where the presenter said that the temperature in mid-April was already 45
degrees (no mention of Celsius even, just degrees).
So, I poked around a few of the British papers online (Independent, Daily
Mirror, Sun) as
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From: John Frewen-Lord
To: ezra.steinb...@comcast.net
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: [USMA:47151] Degrees Fahrenheit gone the way of the guinea?
Even the British Murdoch-controlled newspapers, which resolutely give all
dimensions in imperial
Mechanics use the 'thou' when doing engine work - for instance repairing
cylinder heads after blowing a head gasket. My mini is bored out to 1380cc but
the actual work talks about how many thou's are bored out. It's another one of
those mixes where both measurement types can get used in the
Degrees F are now only found in the US.
Three guesses who it is on this listserver that will somehow find examples of
fahrenheit in UK newspapers when nobody else can! :-)
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From: John Frewen-Lord
To: U.S. Metric Association
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010
Couple of things:
1) See what happens if we get a heatwave (or even if it gets warm)!! :-) BBC
local radio quote C and F
2) The libdem leader did well in the first ever prime-minster election debate.
When it comes to the 'X' it will be Tory or Labour I'm afraid ;-)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010
As well as on local radio most newspapers still quote 'F' in their listings.
TV coverage is really down to the forecaster - eg Sian Lloyd (welsh) quotes F.
By the way - even cars from the fifties have 'C' on the car temp gauge.
From: j...@frewston.plus.com
To: usma@colostate.edu
Subject:
I did mention this on a previous message but I guess it muct have got lost in
the problems you've been having.
What was that you were saying earlier about politeness?
Dear me!
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From: Stephen Humphreys
To: U.S. Metric Association
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010
Misleading US readers cannot help your cause. Which paper do you read?
From: stevo.da...@btinternet.com
To: usma@colostate.edu
Subject: [USMA:47154] Re: Fw: Degrees Fahrenheit gone the way of the guinea?
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 22:19:57 +0100
Degrees F are now only found in the
US.
Here as well. The other mark is H. :)
From: Stephen Humphreys barkatf...@hotmail.com
To: U.S. Metric Association usma@colostate.edu
Sent: Sun, April 18, 2010 5:25:10 PM
Subject: [USMA:47156] RE: Fw: Degrees Fahrenheit gone the way of the guinea?
By the way
The online versions of those newspapers may well bot mention fahrenheit, but
I'm afraid the Daily Mirror does in the actual newspaper.
Strangely enough, the reports referring to the UK weather contained not a trace
of fahrenheit, yet the reports for the temperature in countries abroad were a
I think I might have made a mistake - I was only referring to the physical
newspaper - not it's online version.Sorry if that misled.
From: stevo.da...@btinternet.com
To: usma@colostate.edu
Subject: [USMA:47160] Re: Degrees Fahrenheit gone the way of the guinea?
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 22:42:47
Ha ha - yep almost forgot about that! Yes - my Riley has C-N-H. The stag has a
blue and red sector.
However - just to re-emphasise - I've seen British cars from the 50's that had
temps in Celsius (or Centigrade). The speedos had mph only (much like todays
speedos - gone full circle if you
I'm afraid there is a certain person on this listserver (you know who you are)
who I've already told once a little while ago to stop sending me unsolicited
and unwanted emails.
If that person doesn't desist from doing this, I'm afraid I'm going to put in a
complaint about this person or tell
Same guy..all from cox.net. kilopascal, Daniel Jackson, Ametrica, Euric, John. He's been sending me stuff too. Guy claims he's from West Virginia but won't come clean any more than that.
Original Message
Subject: [USMA:47163] Problems!
From: "Stephen Davis"
I guess the real puzzler then is why the web sites I looked at have a different
editorial policy for the use of Fahrenheit (they don't) than they do for the
printed newspapers.
-- Ezra
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From: Stephen Humphreys barkatf...@hotmail.com
To: U.S. Metric Association
And every e-mail I get from him (Daniel Jackson) asks for a “read receipt”. I
always say no.
Carleton
From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf Of
br...@bjwhite.net
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 18:04
To: U.S. Metric Association
Cc: U.S. Metric Association
Dear John, Jim, and All,
My understanding is that air craft actually measure pressure in
something like kilopascals and that this pressure measurement is then
changed (dumbed down ?) to a measure that implies that a measure of
length has been made somehow.
I suppose you could dangle a
Altimeters work off of atmospheric pressure readings, Pat. But the
readout is in terms of height above terrain. So assignments and reports
are always in length units. No human pressure to altitude correlation
procedures are used.
Jim
Pat Naughtin wrote:
Dear John, Jim, and All,
My
That is true, and the relationship is defined by the US, ICAO, and ISO Standard
Atmospheres (these all agree as far as they go. As a space-faring nation, the
US has defined it to an altitude MUCH higher than commercial aviation.) It
depends on the lapse rate of temperature which varies from
Actually, it is nominally based on height above sealevel. Sitting on the
runway, with altimeter correction dialed in, it will read the published height
of the runway above sealevel.
At cruise levels, no altimeter correction is used and reading is called flight
level. It is the height above
Thanks, John. Your knowledge obviously exceeds my faint acquaintance
with this matter.
Now, I HAVE had personal experience with aneroid altimeters, the
pneumo-mechanical sort where the big hand spun a complete circle for
every one thousand feet (I think that was the number). We used them on
What is the contribution of GPS data to the navigation of large aircraft? Do
GPS data dominate barametric data?
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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 18:10:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: John M. Steele jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: [USMA:47170] Re: Air flight altitudes in meters
Dear All,
This web page makes the statement:
Everything we do, we consider to be the ‘norm’. In America, we do some
things different than the rest of the world, like the metric system.
While we consider the metric system to be normal, the rest of the
world considers it different. Human
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