[USMA:47147] RE: Decimal currency Metrication

2010-04-18 Thread Martin Vlietstra
Most of Europe adopted a decimal currency during the nineteenth century. Germany for example, adopted a decimal currency in 1871 when the German Empire (the second Reich) was founded by Bismark. -Original Message- From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf

[USMA:47148] RE: Decimal currency Metrication

2010-04-18 Thread Stephen Davis
Thanks for that, Steve.another well informed argument. Probably safe to say that few, if any, mechanics in the UK would use 'thou's'. - Original Message - From: Stephen Humphreys To: U.S. Metric Association Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 10:21 PM Subject: [USMA:47142] RE:

[USMA:47149] Air flight altitudes in meters

2010-04-18 Thread James R. Frysinger
My impression had been that all air flight altitudes were given and heeded in terms of feet. But this article implies flight altitudes in meters. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/04/17/european-skies-largely-remain-fly-zone/ Jim -- James R. Frysinger 632 Stony Point Mountain Road Doyle, TN

[USMA:47150] Re: Air flight altitudes in meters

2010-04-18 Thread John M. Steele
It is my understanding that European air space is controlled in feet. The Wikipedia article on flight level shows a metric structure for Russia, China, Mongolia, North Korea and various CIS States (non-European former USSR satellites).  Everybody else flies in feet (I think).

[USMA:47151] Degrees Fahrenheit gone the way of the guinea?

2010-04-18 Thread ezra . steinberg
I heard on the BBC World Service last night about a location (which I missed) where the presenter said that the temperature in mid-April was already 45 degrees (no mention of Celsius even, just degrees). So, I poked around a few of the British papers online (Independent, Daily Mirror, Sun) as

[USMA:47152] Fw: Degrees Fahrenheit gone the way of the guinea?

2010-04-18 Thread John Frewen-Lord
- Original Message - From: John Frewen-Lord To: ezra.steinb...@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [USMA:47151] Degrees Fahrenheit gone the way of the guinea? Even the British Murdoch-controlled newspapers, which resolutely give all dimensions in imperial

[USMA:47153] RE: Decimal currency Metrication

2010-04-18 Thread Stephen Humphreys
Mechanics use the 'thou' when doing engine work - for instance repairing cylinder heads after blowing a head gasket. My mini is bored out to 1380cc but the actual work talks about how many thou's are bored out. It's another one of those mixes where both measurement types can get used in the

[USMA:47154] Re: Fw: Degrees Fahrenheit gone the way of the guinea?

2010-04-18 Thread Stephen Davis
Degrees F are now only found in the US. Three guesses who it is on this listserver that will somehow find examples of fahrenheit in UK newspapers when nobody else can! :-) - Original Message - From: John Frewen-Lord To: U.S. Metric Association Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010

[USMA:47155] RE: Degrees Fahrenheit gone the way of the guinea?

2010-04-18 Thread Stephen Humphreys
Couple of things: 1) See what happens if we get a heatwave (or even if it gets warm)!! :-) BBC local radio quote C and F 2) The libdem leader did well in the first ever prime-minster election debate. When it comes to the 'X' it will be Tory or Labour I'm afraid ;-) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010

[USMA:47156] RE: Fw: Degrees Fahrenheit gone the way of the guinea?

2010-04-18 Thread Stephen Humphreys
As well as on local radio most newspapers still quote 'F' in their listings. TV coverage is really down to the forecaster - eg Sian Lloyd (welsh) quotes F. By the way - even cars from the fifties have 'C' on the car temp gauge. From: j...@frewston.plus.com To: usma@colostate.edu Subject:

[USMA:47157] RE: Decimal currency Metrication

2010-04-18 Thread Stephen Davis
I did mention this on a previous message but I guess it muct have got lost in the problems you've been having. What was that you were saying earlier about politeness? Dear me! - Original Message - From: Stephen Humphreys To: U.S. Metric Association Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010

[USMA:47158] Re: Fw: Degrees Fahrenheit gone the way of the guinea?

2010-04-18 Thread Stephen Humphreys
Misleading US readers cannot help your cause. Which paper do you read? From: stevo.da...@btinternet.com To: usma@colostate.edu Subject: [USMA:47154] Re: Fw: Degrees Fahrenheit gone the way of the guinea? Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 22:19:57 +0100 Degrees F are now only found in the US.

[USMA:47159] RE: Fw: Degrees Fahrenheit gone the way of the guinea?

2010-04-18 Thread John M. Steele
Here as well.  The other mark is H.  :) From: Stephen Humphreys barkatf...@hotmail.com To: U.S. Metric Association usma@colostate.edu Sent: Sun, April 18, 2010 5:25:10 PM Subject: [USMA:47156] RE: Fw: Degrees Fahrenheit gone the way of the guinea? By the way

[USMA:47160] Re: Degrees Fahrenheit gone the way of the guinea?

2010-04-18 Thread Stephen Davis
The online versions of those newspapers may well bot mention fahrenheit, but I'm afraid the Daily Mirror does in the actual newspaper. Strangely enough, the reports referring to the UK weather contained not a trace of fahrenheit, yet the reports for the temperature in countries abroad were a

[USMA:47161] Re: Degrees Fahrenheit gone the way of the guinea?

2010-04-18 Thread Stephen Humphreys
I think I might have made a mistake - I was only referring to the physical newspaper - not it's online version.Sorry if that misled. From: stevo.da...@btinternet.com To: usma@colostate.edu Subject: [USMA:47160] Re: Degrees Fahrenheit gone the way of the guinea? Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 22:42:47

[USMA:47162] RE: Fw: Degrees Fahrenheit gone the way of the guinea?

2010-04-18 Thread Stephen Humphreys
Ha ha - yep almost forgot about that! Yes - my Riley has C-N-H. The stag has a blue and red sector. However - just to re-emphasise - I've seen British cars from the 50's that had temps in Celsius (or Centigrade). The speedos had mph only (much like todays speedos - gone full circle if you

[USMA:47163] Problems!

2010-04-18 Thread Stephen Davis
I'm afraid there is a certain person on this listserver (you know who you are) who I've already told once a little while ago to stop sending me unsolicited and unwanted emails. If that person doesn't desist from doing this, I'm afraid I'm going to put in a complaint about this person or tell

[USMA:47164] RE: Problems!

2010-04-18 Thread brian
Same guy..all from cox.net. kilopascal, Daniel Jackson, Ametrica, Euric, John. He's been sending me stuff too. Guy claims he's from West Virginia but won't come clean any more than that. Original Message Subject: [USMA:47163] Problems! From: "Stephen Davis"

[USMA:47165] RE: Fw: Degrees Fahrenheit gone the way of the guinea?

2010-04-18 Thread ezra . steinberg
I guess the real puzzler then is why the web sites I looked at have a different editorial policy for the use of Fahrenheit (they don't) than they do for the printed newspapers. -- Ezra - Original Message - From: Stephen Humphreys barkatf...@hotmail.com To: U.S. Metric Association

[USMA:47166] RE: Problems!

2010-04-18 Thread Carleton MacDonald
And every e-mail I get from him (Daniel Jackson) asks for a “read receipt”. I always say no. Carleton From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf Of br...@bjwhite.net Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 18:04 To: U.S. Metric Association Cc: U.S. Metric Association

[USMA:47167] Re: Air flight altitudes in meters

2010-04-18 Thread Pat Naughtin
Dear John, Jim, and All, My understanding is that air craft actually measure pressure in something like kilopascals and that this pressure measurement is then changed (dumbed down ?) to a measure that implies that a measure of length has been made somehow. I suppose you could dangle a

[USMA:47168] Re: Air flight altitudes in meters

2010-04-18 Thread James R. Frysinger
Altimeters work off of atmospheric pressure readings, Pat. But the readout is in terms of height above terrain. So assignments and reports are always in length units. No human pressure to altitude correlation procedures are used. Jim Pat Naughtin wrote: Dear John, Jim, and All, My

[USMA:47169] Re: Air flight altitudes in meters

2010-04-18 Thread John M. Steele
That is true, and the relationship is defined by the US, ICAO, and ISO Standard Atmospheres (these all agree as far as they go.  As a space-faring nation, the US has defined it to an altitude MUCH higher than commercial aviation.)  It depends on the lapse rate of temperature which varies from

[USMA:47170] Re: Air flight altitudes in meters

2010-04-18 Thread John M. Steele
Actually, it is nominally based on height above sealevel.  Sitting on the runway, with altimeter correction dialed in, it will read the published height of the runway above sealevel. At cruise levels, no altimeter correction is used and reading is called flight level.  It is the height above

[USMA:47171] Re: Air flight altitudes in meters

2010-04-18 Thread James R. Frysinger
Thanks, John. Your knowledge obviously exceeds my faint acquaintance with this matter. Now, I HAVE had personal experience with aneroid altimeters, the pneumo-mechanical sort where the big hand spun a complete circle for every one thousand feet (I think that was the number). We used them on

[USMA:47172] Re: Air flight altitudes in meters

2010-04-18 Thread mechtly
What is the contribution of GPS data to the navigation of large aircraft? Do GPS data dominate barametric data? Original message Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 18:10:10 -0700 (PDT) From: John M. Steele jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net Subject: [USMA:47170] Re: Air flight altitudes in meters

[USMA:47173] Weird or just different?

2010-04-18 Thread Pat Naughtin
Dear All, This web page makes the statement: Everything we do, we consider to be the ‘norm’. In America, we do some things different than the rest of the world, like the metric system. While we consider the metric system to be normal, the rest of the world considers it different. Human