[USMA:52525] RE: (4) Ten reasons to hate...

2013-03-13 Thread John M. Steele
Well, those execs are right.  Not because the people care, but for items covered under FPLA, the law REQUIRES dual, so blame the law not the company.  For items covered by the UPLR, we still have one or two States that require dual and the balance allow dual or metric-only.  So dual is the easy

[USMA:52524] RE: (4) Ten reasons to hate...

2013-03-13 Thread Henschel Mark
I don't know all the latest details of all American companies that are metric, but I suspect it is a lot more than most people think. I continually see shampoo and skin lotion in containers that are clearly metric (400 ml, 650 ml, etc.) but are marked with some stupid ounce size that makes no sense

[USMA:52523] Re: Weather Forecasts

2013-03-13 Thread James Frysinger
I do urge that data from "personal weather stations" be taken with a grain of salt. These are not certified, calibrated instruments and they are often poorly placed. What John says here is correct. I use one of the better personal weather stations, a Davis Vantage Pro2, but it does have its l

[USMA:52522] Re: Avoid the "ton"

2013-03-13 Thread contact
Very informative, Mr Jakuba. Your ton article is a good refresher course form me. I learned a few new things too. Thanks! David Pearl� MetricPioneer.com� 503-428-4917 > An inquiry prompted me to write about the "ton" issue again. The treatise > has been printed in the current issue of Metric To

[USMA:52521] RE: (4) Ten reasons to hate...

2013-03-13 Thread Henschel Mark
Xerox. GM, John Deere, Chrysler, Ford, Caterpillar and IBM all use metric exclusively. Most of these companies converted to metric so many years ago (I did training sessions in the 1970's) that they don't print "metric" on their drawings anymore. They just assume the worker who reads the blueprints

[USMA:52520] Re: Weather Forecasts

2013-03-13 Thread James Frysinger
I've sent an inquiry off to my local NWS Forecast Office on this topic. I think you are right about the grid squares being "pre-ordained", John. See http://www.srh.weather.gov/srh/jetstream/webweather/pinpoint_max.htm You will see there that the forecast grid points are as close as "1.6 mi (2.5

[USMA:52519] Re: Weather Forecasts

2013-03-13 Thread John M. Steele
Yes, there are several ways to "pick a square."  But the squares are 'pre-ordained" although I can't figure out the algorithm that defines them.  The best you can do is the square that contains your location.  Zip codes may be bigger than the squares, or overlap them in funny ways, so you are o

[USMA:52518] Re: Weather Forecasts

2013-03-13 Thread James Frysinger
I did not input a ZIP code, city, or town to obtain my point forecast. I used the topo map on the page to click on the location of my house and farm. That relocated the green square on the map, centering it on the point I chose by clicking. As I recall, I then modified the filename for that fil

[USMA:52517] RE: Why we failed RE: Re: milliliters exclusively instead of teaspoons

2013-03-13 Thread Brij Bhushan Vij
Amos, sirs:>... There is just not enough benefit to justify the cost. Does this mean we are NOT interested to see 'solutions for Reform of the calendar/time unit' or we are only trying to impede the process and initiative taken by 'forefathers' in sounding the benefits of Le Systeme Internationa

[USMA:52516] Re: Weather Forecasts

2013-03-13 Thread John M. Steele
Current observations are for the nearest airport.  The point forecast uses that airport and a ring of airports that will surround your location and they "interpolate" from the forecasts at those airports.  They do not include results from personal weather stations. _

[USMA:52515] Re: Weather Forecasts

2013-03-13 Thread John M. Steele
Jim I had the same experience, having commented to the Detroit/Pontiac office of NWS.  I got the same response as you.  Basically all scripts are written centrally to produce the pages from data tables in their model, and are "common software."    However, many of my comments were addressed in t

[USMA:52514] Re: Weather Forecasts

2013-03-13 Thread csm
Jim (Frysinger): I don't know about that "point" forecasting by the NWS. When I input my ZIP code, I got figures for an airport in a different city, at least 5 km away. Weather Underground, on the other hand, reports data for five locations in my actual city, all of which are closer to the ai

[USMA:52513] Re: Weather Forecasts

2013-03-13 Thread John M. Steele
Well, it is obviously a matter of opinion and we all have one. I have also used Weather Underground, and they are good.  I don't dispute that. I do urge that data from "personal weather stations" be taken with a grain of salt.  These are not certified, calibrated instruments and they are often

[USMA:52512] Re: Weather Forecasts

2013-03-13 Thread James Frysinger
When Weather Underground first started up years ago I swapped many emails with their top staff on formatting issues. They were extremely responsive to my comments, which I also documented on the USMA mail list. A couple of days ago I sent off a detailed email to NWS Nashville commenting on som

[USMA:52511] Weather Forecasts

2013-03-13 Thread csm
Reference was made on this list by John Steele to the www.National Weather Service's forecast page (www.weather.gov). I would like to point out that the NWS site is quite an inferior source for such information. I would recommend instead Weather Underground (www.weatherunderground.com) as by

[USMA:52507] National Weather Service: Observation in F (C), Forecast in F only

2013-03-13 Thread James Wong
Recently I need to get myself familiar with National Weather Service. I randomly look up a city. The temp observation for that city displayed in both F and C. Make sense. Then I proceeded to read 7-day forecast. All of the forecasted temp is in F. Why? James Wong, Wong James, whatever

[USMA:52510] RE: (4) Ten reasons to hate...

2013-03-13 Thread Metric Rules Info
That would be great!!! I need additional manufacturing data to better estimate the potential occupational paths of our K-12 students. I am always trying to answer the question, how many occupations, in this country, primarily work with SI units? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 13, 2013, at 7:12 A

[USMA:52509] Re: NASA metric

2013-03-13 Thread a-bruie...@lycos.com
76.2 mm and 63.5 mm are not Metric, call it what it is 3" and 2.5", what I am saying us that they are still designing and working in non-Metric units, converting after the fact is not "using Metric", its just lazy. Bruce E. Arkwright, Jr Erie PA Linux and Metric User and Enforcer I will only

[USMA:52508] Re: National Weather Service: Observation in F (C), Forecast in F only

2013-03-13 Thread John M. Steele
If you are using the feature they call "Point Forecast" there is a switch link near the bottom of the page that says "International System of Units." Click that and it will be predominately metric with a couple of things dual. Oddly, the link name DOESN'T change to "Customary units" but it is a t

[USMA:52506] Re: NASA metric

2013-03-13 Thread Phil Chernack
I believe that is the APing of the Washington Post rather than NASA. If you go to NASA's site, they use dual. Phil On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 9:00 AM, a-bruie...@lycos.com wrote: > So much for nasa and Metric, just read an article on the Rover Couriosity, > here is a viewing a sample on a tray tha

[USMA:52505] Re: NASA metric

2013-03-13 Thread a-bruie...@lycos.com
So much for nasa and Metric, just read an article on the Rover Couriosity, here is a viewing a sample on a tray that measures 3" diameter and that it drilled 2.5" deep http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-innovations/rover-curiosity-touches-down-on-mars/2012/08/06/82d90bd4-dfe2-11e1-8fc

[USMA:52504] RE: (4) Ten reasons to hate...

2013-03-13 Thread John M. Steele
The official name is International System of Units or SI units for short.  Let us NOT make up confusing alternate names.  Ask them if they use SI units.  If they give you a blank look, they don't know what they are and don't use them, or (probably) don't use them properly.  If necessary, you co

[USMA:52503] RE: (4) Ten reasons to hate...

2013-03-13 Thread a-bruie...@lycos.com
Oh, this discussion got me to thinking the next industry expo that we have here, that I should attend, even though I am no longer working as a toolmaker, and ask every vendor, if they are working in and or only Metric, and if not, why. Thats Metric with a capital M, we do not want to confuse wit