To bad the clothing industry didn't accept the metric size recommendations
made years ago so baby's and people's physical dimensions would match the SI
clothing sizes. The main impediment is women's current clothing sizes are
made to mislead or hid real dimensions.
Stan Doore
.
- Original Mess
Good show!
The Superintendent of Schools here in Montgomery
County MD is committed to having the SI taught exclusively in all science
courses and science classes. The school system has 140 000
students. Let's hope that NASA and
other science and technology organizations, including newspa
No. But it's an interesting
question.
I would guess the containers are the same
physical size so 9 mL can be added later to round out the 600 mL quantity
when hard conversion takes place in the US. Same container but different
amount of contents depending where it's bottled - for the US
Subject: [USMA:28590] RE: Metric & Drinks & a Question
> >G. Stanley Doore
> >This shows that the food industry is moving silently toward metric.
> >However, dairy products in the US of course are not metric
> >because they are controlled by the US Government.
&g
Just to restate the obvious and ask a
question.
The soft drink industry labels its drinks in metric
except for energy which is labeled in calories.
Yesterday, several bottles were on the counter of
my daughter's home and I observed the following were in grams and mL:
Hawaiian Punch, Pep
Pat and Jim:
In trying to normalize sizes, remember that recipes are based on taste and
other factors. Mass is key in producing proper mixtures.
In our modern day of mechanization with precise manufacturing and
production, packaged food producers can very precisely mix ingredients by
mass to ach
In Montgomery County MD, Superintendent Dr. Jerry Weast is committed to
having the SI taught in all SCIENCE courses and classes instead of a mixture
or anything else. The school system has about 140 000 students. The school
system already has the SI relationship chart on its site. with a few page
You should check the hybrid Toyota Prius and
write-ups for it. Power is given in kW for both the gasoline engine and
for the electric drive.
Stan Doore
- Original Message -
From:
john
mercer
To: U.S. Metric Association
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 4:15
PM
S
PATH demonstrates automated bus rapid transit
(A-BRT) technologies.
A recent PATH publication shows the Driver Vehicle
Interface (DVI), a display. Distances, such as between vehicles in
transit, are given in meters; however speeds are in mph for practical reasons -
the buses were driven o
Knowing temperature to tenths of degrees is
important for analysis and forecasting purposes. Reporting temperature in
decimal degrees for human consumption is not necessary for reasons already
stated.
Tenths of degrees is important for snow and ice
control on transportation facilities. T
You may be confusing accuracy with
precision.
Tenths of degrees F is more precise than tenths of
degrees C because a degree C is more course than F.
Accuracy depends of the instrument
used.
Stan Doore
- Original Message -
From:
Joseph B. Reid
To: U.S. Metric Ass
Hi Chimp:
Nonsense?
Wind Chill Temperature is not a unit but an index
to which non-scientists or regular people can relate. They relate to
temperature whether it be SI or some other system of units.
People understand how they feel relative to
temperature because they feel it every day
More and more stores and systems are using the 24 h
clock. The tide is turning to it and to metric.
You are correct that most people don't pay
attention to the date or time until it's needed. The US is gradually going
metric and most people don't know it. More importantly people don't ca
n a binary context without
overloading them. It's cleaner to have a one-to-one correspondence between
syntax and semantics, which leads you to creating different prefixes to
denote certain powers of two.
>
> Ezra
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "G. Stanle
The binary system is based on 2s not tens.
1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128,256,512,1024,2048 etc are binary numbers not rounded
numbers. Binary is the most efficient use in hardware design and logic.
Special hardware was developed for the base 10 system because base 10 is
what the general public uses.
Peopl
This web site is about the best for metric.
I'm working on getting the SI into schools. Some pages of my "Make Metric
Meaningful" approach have been included in the Montgomery County Public
School system's web site here in Maryland. MCPS has about 140,00 students
and the Superintendent has told
In addition to expensive changes to stadiums to accommodate football fields
50 x 100 m, the game strategy would be altered significantly because of the
narrower and longer metric field.
Stan Doore
- Original Message -
From: "Kim Sherman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "U.S. Metric Association"
The issue here is the user or consumer. Pilots have training in meteorology
to get their ticket and so they are taught to read coded wx fcsts and obs
including pressure without a decimal point.
Internal to computer systems for most of the last century, no decimal was
included in transmissions. T
n" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 5:21 PM
Subject: [USMA:26894] Re: Non-SI metric units
G. Stanley Doore wrote:
>Four-digit millibar pressure reports don't report the least
>significant digit
Four-digit millibar pressure reports don't report the least significant
digit of atmospheric observations now.
TV weather people report pressure to two decimal places in inches of Hg
after conversion from tenths of millibars. People are familiar with two
decimal places in inches of Hg.
So why no
As a meteorologist, millibar is nostalgic, metric and easy to say.
However, atmospheric pressure should be given in kPa to be consistent with
other systems which involve pressure to avoid conversion ( shifting a
decimal point), for safety reasons and to improve understanding in the
relationship to
- Original Message -
From: "Brian J White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 9:36 PM
Subject: [USMA:26885] Re: Non-SI metric units
>
> >The name of the millibar should be changed to the hectopascal, which is a
> >mul
I'm not sure, but I think that the standard atmospheric pressure was derived
from an average sea level pressure at mid latitude. The barometric pressure
was developed from the mercury barometer measured in inches or centimeters
depending on country. The name barometer comes from the metric unit b
The 1991 report cites standard atmospheric pressure as 1013.25 mbar or
101.325 hPa or 29.92 inches of mercury.
Why not standardize on the SI conventional kPa way of presenting pressure?
For accuracy and precision purposes, it would be 101.325 kPa if decimal
points are used or alternatively Pa only
"Neater by the metre" and "A litre bit more" are catchy and easily
remembered.
Promote the use of them. They tell more than a bunch of lengthy dialog.
Regards, Stan Doore
- Original Message -
From: "Pat Naughtin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Se
For distances less than a kilometer, it makes sense
to use meters.
People are familiar with track (runners and
swimmers) distances of 100 m, 200 m, 400 m, 800 m etc. So it makes a lot of
sense to use these. It also makes some sense to use meters up to 2 km as
is done in some countries.
Pat has made the very obvious practical and useful observation that 1 mm of
rain per square meter is one litre. Meteorologists and the public don't
seem to get the message to "Make Metric Meaningful"
Also in Pat's example, 27 500 litres of water are 27.5 tonnes or 27.5 cubic
metres.
This is why
Why not MJ? This is the amount of energy which could include the energy
content of the type of gas supplied.
Stan Doore
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From: "M R" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 4:47 PM
Subject: [USMA:25864] Re: Uti
What's wrong with kiloliters? A kiloliter is one cubic meter. A tenth on
of kiloliter could be used if a whole kiloliter is too course.
Stan Doore
- Original Message -
From: "Bill Potts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 5
World class sprinters run the 100 m dash in 10 s.
Stan Doore
- Original Message -
From: "Gene Mechtly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 7:26 PM
Subject: [USMA:25409] Re:
The highest recorded atmospheric pressure is about 106.00 kPa (1060 mbar).
I don't know exactly. It probably was in a below sea level area.
Stan Doore
- Original Message -
From: "Joseph B. Reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 24,
Aviation could use hPa for atmospheric pressure its own reasons; however, it
is no reason that the public and everyone else should do it. The public and
others should be given atmospheric pressure in kPa to be compatible with
common practice and safety.
Atmospheric pressure is observed and used i
.
>
> "Metric tonne" (as opposed to "metric ton") is redundant. A tonne is, by
> definition, metric.
>
> Bill Potts, CMS
> Roseville, CA
> http://metric1.org [SI Navigator]
>
>
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mail
A meaningful way to understand a metric tonne is to visualize one cubic
meter of water which is 1000 litres.
Stan Doore
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From: "Carl Sorenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 2:41 AM
Subject: [USMA:2516
Title: Results from Form 1 of Page mail.htm
- Original Message -
From: Mustafa
Yilmaz
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 4:24 PM
Subject: Your comments
Dear
Mr. Doore:
1.
Thank you very much for your feedback.
2. It
is true that it seems like there are
I recall that 250 mL is sold in other countries so it is not a promo. It
makes sense for CC to use sizes which it already produces elsewhere.
What should be done is to make the metric label predominant as the next step
in all metric labeling. People look at physical size and unit prices rather
t
Pat.
Thanks for the info. Kodak is trying to sell film. Digital cameras are
much more useful since results can be displayed immediate and input to the
web.
Similar projects here are done in school and be environmental organizations
etc. on weekends.
Instead, I like the idea of using a millimet
Has anyone heard of cubic tons and what does it
mean?
Gabriel Baird of the Capital News Service said on
2003 January 28: ". . . Ford Explorer gets less than 20 mpg and emits 11.6 cubic
tons of greenhouse gases per 15,000 miles, according to U.S. Department of
Energy estimates."
This is a
Sticking strictly with 100% SI is the only way to go.
There are published standards and writing styles which everyone can use
worldwide. Deviating from these will only create confusion. These
standards are uniform reference materials which don't need to be modified.
Sticking with strictly SI in
; http://metric1.org [SI Navigator]
>
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> >Behalf Of G. Stanley Doore
> >Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 12:21
> >To: U.S. Metric Association
> >Subject: [USMA:24624] Re: Power
&
Although appliances you mention can be used on both types of power, you
really need a kit of plug adapters to be able to interface the variety of
sockets around the world, including variations in Europe.
Stan Doore
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From: "kilopascal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "U.S. Metr
Although deka and hecto are SI, they are unnecessary. Stick with units in 1
000s or 1 000ths to simplify use and understanding, particularly by the
general public.
Stan Doore
- Original Message -
From: "Johnathan McClure" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTE
The numbers were provided by Transrapid, the builder of the China maglev.
The numbers are the height of the outside of the track from zero from the
inside of the track instead of using angles. Most of the public can
understand this better than angles. It gives people a better feel for how
much a
You are correct. These are not conversions. However, 400 m = 440 yards =
1/4 mile etc (very close approximation). The US took the metric distances
as a standard for purposes of precision and world standardization and did
not convert.
Stan Doore
- Original Message -
From: "kilopascal"
- Original Message -
From: "G. Stanley Doore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 7:12 AM
Subject: Re: [USMA:24311] Re: AW: Gauge Width : Maglev
> Pit
Pitch is the tilt of the tracks on curves to counteract centrifugal force.
Tilt keeps the force of the vehicle perpendicular to the guideway below the
vehicle.
Roads are banked on curves for the same purpose. The greater the speed the
more banking or pitch is required to keep cars on the road. S
; education in the state of Maryland and elsewhere is not going mean a hill
of
> beans when it comes to getting support for further metrication efforts.
>
> John
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "G. Stanley Doore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: &quo
ontally it
was just under 600 metres long!
Cheers,
Pat Naughtin LCAMS
Geelong, Australia
.
.
on 2002-12-31 06.41, G. Stanley Doore at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Thanks.
>
> If we all pitch in to get school systems to teach SI exclusively in
science
> and technology classes and c
;it as you
> >have no practical means to use it. This is why it is important to at
least
> >metricate those parts of the economy that would reinforce the
> >teaching, such
> >as grocery store scales, media weather forecasts, gasoline sales, and
road
> >signs.
> >
>
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 1:50 PM
Subject: [USMA:24283] Re: If War Comes
> I notice that the metric pages on their web site give special thanks to
you.
>
> Congratulations.
>
> Bill Potts, CMS
> Roseville, CA
> http://metric1.org [SI Navigator]
>
> >-Original
e form of metrication taking place in the real world, the
> educational aspect of it is a waste of time and money.
>
> John
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "G. Stanley Doore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[E
Not much has changed.
US Marine infantry types still use yards whereas Marine artillery and other
weapon systems are metric. It's still a mixture.
We must have the SI taught in schools rather than any old metric system so
kids know and understand the relationship of units in the single common
la
The world (WMO) weather standards for storage of pressure don't have decimal
points in digital data bases. Moreover, pressure data are stored in tenths
of millibars (hPa) so it doesn't matter that kPa is used in the public
except for:
Other applications are using kPa or multiples of 1 000s or 1
Keep up you spirits Mike.
The Montgomery County public school system Principal here in Maryland, USA,
is committed to teaching the SI in its 138,000 student system. We hope to
get this done in schools throughout the State of Maryland.
Stan Doore
- Original Message -
From: Mike Joy <[EMA
Kilopascal (kPa) is coherent and consistent across the board for the SI.
It's a decimal point shift for hPa and mbar to get kPa. Why not stick with
the SI and the standard and standard practice as being implemented
worldwide?
Stan Doore
- Original Message -
From: James-Jason Wentworth <[
Yes. Dual units were provided in the 1970s when the USG had a major
conversion effort. Time is of essence and adding dual units adds time which
takes away from other material to be broadcast.
The solution is for The Congress to take action to convert and for the
media to agree to make the conve
riginal Message -
From: Terry Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: U.S. Metric Association <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 3:25 PM
Subject: [USMA:24045] Re: hPa
> G. Stanley Doore wrote:
> >The military operates worldwide and the TAF is standard worldwide.
>
lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 12:04 PM
Subject: [USMA:24035] Re: hPa
> Does anybody know why the US military uses meters for the military TAF
> but not for the military METAR?
>
>
> Correspondence preferred in the mailing list rather than email.
>
>
&g
Robert:
We need to mount a letter writing campaign to the NWS, to elected officials
and to the media in support of using kPa in reporting atmospheric pressure
to the public using:
1.Safety
2.Uniformity with other applications and industries in common use by
the public
as the key po
There is no reason not to give the public kPa. The FAA and ICAO can use
whatever units they wish, and they do. The NOAA and the NWS have the
responsibility of giving weather to the public, not the FAA or ICAO. The
FAA does not make the call for the public.
Stan Doore
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- Original Message -
From: Gene Mechtly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: G. Stanley Doore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: U.S. Metric Association <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 1:32 PM
Subject: Prefix Choices
> On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, G. Stanley Doore wrote:
> >
It's all well and good to try to get the media to use the SI.
Until the US Government decides that SI and its preferred derivatives should
be used in the public arena, you will not make much progress. The NOAA
National Weather Service won't even adhere to the SI derivative for
pressure. For exam
I spoke with Dr. Jerry Weast, Superintendent of Montgomery County Public
Schools (K12), earlier this week.
He told me that he is committed to teaching and using the SI in science and
technology for the 138,000 student system. The SI is now part of the
teaching program and the SI has been included
Dr. Jerry Weast, Superintendent of Montgomery County Public Schools (MCPS)
here in Maryland and the home of the national Geographic, stated in a letter
to me: "Your SI metric system diagram is clear, well thought-out and
logical. It will serve as a valuable instructional tool for our students.
.
Jim:
The use of "yr" is dictated by the media and the print industry style
manuals. If you want to make a change, you need to get the print industry
to do it. This goes for the metric symbols as well. Work on the SI metric
symbols first and hopefully you can bring the year symbol along with th
I use Delorme's digital Road Warrior Street Edition
of Street Atlas USA for various things including locations of a potential
elevated monorail/monobeam people mover system in the Maryland area of
Washingtyon DC. Delorme digital Street Atlases and Topo Maps allow you to
work in either metri
You will note that 8 oz and 16 oz etc in the
English system are round numbers in the binary system. Recall that the
binary system was invented so one the Kings could indicate the number of the
current wife and four fingers and a thumb were not enough on one hand to
indicate the current wife
Fax TV News just had a Dr. on who suggested that
all prescriptions contain a zero before the decimal point between 1 &
-1, eg 0.5 or -0.5
Stan Doore
The error in reading prescriptions such as the one
that killed the child might have been avoided if the ANMC Metric Editorial Guide
of August 1990 was followed. The Guide clearly states in Section
3.5:
"A zero before the decimal point should be used in
numbers between 1 and -1 to prevent
TV meteorologist Bob Ryan is giving pollen
count in parts per cubic meter on NBC-4 in Washington, DC. NBC-4
is NBC network station in the US Capital. Bob also is Past President of the American Meteorological
Society.
I sent a letter to the American Meteorological
Society requesting that
I am looking for many examples of applications which now use the Pascal for
pressure in SI units (multiples of 1000) such as Pa (Pascal), kPa
(kilopascals), MPa (megapascals) etc. Weather uses hPa (hectopascals) or
millibars which is not very public friendly. I'd like to see weather
reported
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